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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:14 pm
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I saw "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" (based on the book by C.S.
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In this movie, 4 kids, named Lucy, Susan, Edmund, and Peter go through a
wardrobe into a land called "Narnia". It has been winter in Narnia for
100
years, thanks to a spell cast by the cruel White Witch.

How have the life forms of Narnia survived? I would expect that the
grass, flowers, and fruit would not
grow in the snow. This would cause the herbivores, bees, and birds to
starve, which would wipe out the animals that feed on herbivores, birds,
and bees. Granted, Narnia's animals seem to be as smart as Earth
humans, but I don't see how they could practice farming in all that snow
(especially since they have only a medieval level of technology. I saw
no sign of industrialization, use of fossil fuels, or even
greenhouses). The rivers and lakes are completely frozen, which would
eliminate the fresh water fish and any animals that prey on such fish.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:20 am
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"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni.RemoveThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
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>I saw "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" (based on the book by C.S.
> Lewis) on Sunday. Spoilers below:

<snip>

> In this movie, 4 kids, named Lucy, Susan, Edmund, and Peter go through a
> wardrobe into a land called "Narnia". It has been winter in Narnia for
> 100
> years, thanks to a spell cast by the cruel White Witch.
>
> How have the life forms of Narnia survived? I would expect that the
> grass, flowers, and fruit would not
> grow in the snow. This would cause the herbivores, bees, and birds to
> starve, which would wipe out the animals that feed on herbivores, birds,
> and bees. Granted, Narnia's animals seem to be as smart as Earth
> humans, but I don't see how they could practice farming in all that snow
> (especially since they have only a medieval level of technology. I saw
> no sign of industrialization, use of fossil fuels, or even
> greenhouses). The rivers and lakes are completely frozen, which would
> eliminate the fresh water fish and any animals that prey on such fish.

Magic.

-- Ken from Chicago

P.S. That said, animals and plants grow in winter.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:38 am
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Can you say "categorary mistake"?


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:34 am
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Sea Wasp wrote:

> Tim Bruening wrote:
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>> I saw "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" (based on the book by C.S.
>> Lewis) on Sunday. Spoilers below:
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>> In this movie, 4 kids, named Lucy, Susan, Edmund, and Peter go through a
>> wardrobe into a land called "Narnia". It has been winter in Narnia for
>> 100
>> years, thanks to a spell cast by the cruel White Witch.
>>
>> How have the life forms of Narnia survived?
>
>
> Why isn't Sleeping Beauty withered away and either dead, or in need
> of months of physical therapy to sit up when the Prince finally shows?
>
> This is a fairy tale, basically. Those kind of questions are not
> going to be answered, any more than "How do beavers, who lack the
> appropriate voiceboxes and musculature and mouth structure, speak
> perfect English?".

1) And as Mark noted in his review, "Mr. and Mrs. Beaver [are] two
beavers who talk but never say their reaction to the enormous fur coats
that the children wear."

2) Does all this really need spoiler space?

--
Evelyn C. Leeper
Complaint is the largest tribute heaven receives,
and the sincerest part of our devotion. --Jonathan Swift
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:19 pm
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In article <NRcqf.3200$DM5.511@fe08.lga>,
Evelyn C. Leeper <eleeper RemoveThis @optonline.net> wrote:
>
>1) And as Mark noted in his review, "Mr. and Mrs. Beaver [are] two
>beavers who talk but never say their reaction to the enormous fur coats
>that the children wear."

There are ordinary as well as talking animals in Narnia, and the people
and many of the beasts are not vegetarians. Decent Narnians, human and
otherwise, find the idea of eating a *talking* animal repugnant, while
not having a problem with meat in general. The same should go for fur
and leather.

>2) Does all this really need spoiler space?

No. By the way kids, Gollum destroys the Ring! And Hamlet dies at the
end! And it turns out that Oedipus has killed his own father and
married his own mother! Bwahahahahaha!

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:04 pm
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"Paul Ciszek" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> In article <NRcqf.3200$DM5.511@fe08.lga>,
> Evelyn C. Leeper <eleeper.RemoveThis@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>1) And as Mark noted in his review, "Mr. and Mrs. Beaver [are] two
>>beavers who talk but never say their reaction to the enormous fur coats
>>that the children wear."
>
> There are ordinary as well as talking animals in Narnia, and the people
> and many of the beasts are not vegetarians. Decent Narnians, human and
> otherwise, find the idea of eating a *talking* animal repugnant, while
> not having a problem with meat in general.

Me 'usband's dead!

I'm so sorry. What happened?

I blames it on the laryngitis.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:55 pm
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:04:33 GMT, "Mike Schilling"
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>Me 'usband's dead!
>
>I'm so sorry. What happened?
>
>I blames it on the laryngitis.
>

Props 4 teh win! (Or something along those lines...)
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:19 pm
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In article <40u1k2F1bosd2U2 RemoveThis @individual.net>,
Sean O'Hara <seanohara RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>In the Year of the Cock, the Great and Powerful Christopher J.
>Henrich declared:
>>
>> And (in the book - I don't remember it from the movie) Mrs. Beaver
>> frets about leaving behind her sewing machine. Sewing machines are
>> complicated manufactured goods. The first ones were made in the 19th
>> century, and I bet they would have been impossible earlier. Where in
>> Narnia is the industrial base needed for such high technology?
>>
>
>Don't the Beavers live fairly close to the wardrobe? Obviously
>Wossisname, the guy the children were staying with, had a thriving
>import/export business going.

Professor Digory Kirke. Who had, of course, been there before
himself.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:54 pm
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djheydt.RemoveThis@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:

> Professor Digory Kirke. Who had, of course, been there before
> himself.

Not when LWW was written. I don't even think he had a name then.
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In article <m2ek46gix8.fsf.TakeThisOut@enzym.rnd.uni-c.dk>,
Peter B. Juul <p4.TakeThisOut@enzym.rnd.uni-c.dk> wrote:
>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) writes:
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>> Professor Digory Kirke. Who had, of course, been there before
>> himself.
>
>Not when LWW was written. I don't even think he had a name then.

Not a Christian name; he was known as Professor Kirke.

Even in LWW, notice how he's completely unsurprised by the
children's tales of where they've been and what they've done.

Dorothy J. Heydt
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<spam.TakeThisOut@aslan.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Is "categorary" a typo or some kind of nature / zoological term?

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"Evelyn C. Leeper" <eleeper RemoveThis @optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Sea Wasp wrote:
>
>> Tim Bruening wrote:
>>
>>> I saw "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" (based on the book by C.S.
>>> Lewis) on Sunday. Spoilers below:
>>>

<snip>

>>> In this movie, 4 kids, named Lucy, Susan, Edmund, and Peter go through a
>>> wardrobe into a land called "Narnia". It has been winter in Narnia for
>>> 100
>>> years, thanks to a spell cast by the cruel White Witch.
>>>
>>> How have the life forms of Narnia survived?
>>
>>
>> Why isn't Sleeping Beauty withered away and either dead, or in need
>> of months of physical therapy to sit up when the Prince finally shows?
>>
>> This is a fairy tale, basically. Those kind of questions are not
>> going to be answered, any more than "How do beavers, who lack the
>> appropriate voiceboxes and musculature and mouth structure, speak perfect
>> English?".
>
> 1) And as Mark noted in his review, "Mr. and Mrs. Beaver [are] two beavers
> who talk but never say their reaction to the enormous fur coats that the
> children wear."
>
> 2) Does all this really need spoiler space?
>
> --
> Evelyn C. Leeper
> Complaint is the largest tribute heaven receives,
> and the sincerest part of our devotion. --Jonathan Swift
>

Animals kill each other for food and shelter, why would they react to the
humans killing animals?

-- Ken from Chicago
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:49 pm
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Ken from Chicago wrote:
> Magic.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> P.S. That said, animals and plants grow in winter.

Extremophiles?

Weren't a lot of living things turned to stone, like in _Yellow
Submarine_?

Is it relevant that at least the first two or three of the Narnia books
at least, were written while Second World War food rationing still
applied in Britain - up to February 1952...
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"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > 1) And as Mark noted in his review, "Mr. and Mrs. Beaver [are] two
beavers
> > who talk but never say their reaction to the enormous fur coats that the
> > children wear."









> > 2) Does all this really need spoiler space?








No.

> Animals kill each other for food and shelter, why would they react to the
> humans killing animals?

Talking animals are regarded in Narnia as being equivalent to human. If a
talking animal or a human kills a talking animal, that is murder. The
beavers would assume that the fur coats were taken from non-talking animals,
which is almost certainly true. In TSC, the characters are horrified to find
they are eating a talking animal. (To varying degrees, depending on how
Narnia-accustomed they are).

Talking animals tend to approximate to human size. A beaver in Narnia would
be much larger than a regular beaver. (Horses, OTOH would be about the same
size).

Lewis was one of the few writers to address some of the talking-animal
issues which are ignored in most children's fiction, though he introduced as
many problems as he solved.

J/
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In article <W9ydnWwd7u6z5jfenZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d RemoveThis @comcast.com>,
Ken from Chicago <kwicker1b_nospam RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
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>Animals kill each other for food and shelter, why would they react to the
>humans killing animals?

Depends on whether they're dealing with ordinary animals or
Talking Animals. Cf. Puddleglum's reaction in _The Silver Chair_
when he realizes he's been eating one.

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