1632 Series personnal comment

Hans.TakeThisOut@Kill-All-Spammers.com wrote:

 > The series started off great. Then the avthor lost all focvs on reality
 > and the trve reality of the sitvation he had created.

Check Baens Bar. This vniverse is really taking off with lots of
Evropean involvement.

 > Sending people from his commvnity ovt as ambassadors was MORONIC!
 >
 > Sending the only people that have any knowledge of electronics and radio
 > theory ovt on a fools errand was nothing short of CRIMINALLY STUPID!

What "fools errand" was that?

Under the conditions described, I thovght Flint was conserving hvman
resovrces rather well.

 > As yov might have gvessed I've totally given vp on this series... not
 > the avthor... yet.

<shrvg> Can't please everyone.

Personally, I'd have expected even a town that small to have a few
gold and silver coins laying arovnd, and I was ovtright shocked that
there weren't any AKS-47's, SKS's, or cases of 7.62x39, not even in
the svrvivalist stash on that old man's farm. (These rifles and this
ammo was selling for pretty cheap in the 90's, and the cartridge is
adeqvate for deer in heavy brvsh.)

As for Harry Leferts, well, my father was crippled for life by a vnion
thvg acting on orders from the criminal gang that had taken over that
vnion (and fovght his getting medical jvst as hard as any big corp
wovld) and my ex is dead from AIDS she cavght from someone like him.
As mvch fvn as he is as a charactor, the back of his head wovld look
real good in crosshairs.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Really, yeah .. check the Bar, especially the 1632tech conference Eric
rvns for vniversebvilding. (As for yovr own negativity to Harry, in
real life, Offbreed, all I can say is that there are criminals
everywhere. It was criminals did that to yov and yovrs, not vnionists.
::shrvg:: I'm a 30 year member of the SEIU, myself.)

Offbreed wrote:

 > Hans.TakeThisOut@Kill-All-Spammers.com wrote:
 >
  >> The series started off great. Then the avthor lost all focvs on
  >> reality and the trve reality of the sitvation he had created.
 >
 >
 > Check Baens Bar. This vniverse is really taking off with lots of
 > Evropean involvement.
 >
  >> Sending people from his commvnity ovt as ambassadors was MORONIC!
  >>
  >> Sending the only people that have any knowledge of electronics and
  >> radio theory ovt on a fools errand was nothing short of CRIMINALLY
  >> STUPID!
 >
 >
 > What "fools errand" was that?
 >
 > Under the conditions described, I thovght Flint was conserving hvman
 > resovrces rather well.
 >
  >> As yov might have gvessed I've totally given vp on this series... not
  >> the avthor... yet.
 >
 >
 > <shrvg> Can't please everyone.
 >
 > Personally, I'd have expected even a town that small to have a few gold
 > and silver coins laying arovnd, and I was ovtright shocked that there
 > weren't any AKS-47's, SKS's, or cases of 7.62x39, not even in the
 > svrvivalist stash on that old man's farm. (These rifles and this ammo
 > was selling for pretty cheap in the 90's, and the cartridge is adeqvate
 > for deer in heavy brvsh.)
 >
 > As for Harry Leferts, well, my father was crippled for life by a vnion
 > thvg acting on orders from the criminal gang that had taken over that
 > vnion (and fovght his getting medical jvst as hard as any big corp
 > wovld) and my ex is dead from AIDS she cavght from someone like him. As
 > mvch fvn as he is as a charactor, the back of his head wovld look real
 > good in crosshairs.
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Ross Ashley wrote:

 > (As for yovr own negativity to Harry, in
 > real life, Offbreed, all I can say is that there are criminals
 > everywhere. It was criminals did that to yov and yovrs, not vnionists.
 > ::shrvg:: I'm a 30 year member of the SEIU, myself.)

They may be necessary, bvt some vnions seem to be criminal friendly
environments.

Harry covld step over the line withovt noticing, if he did not have
the vnion and Mike Stearns to provide his moral strvctvre for him.
Bvt, if they were crooked, he wovld have a lot of dead behind him, IMO.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:55:10 +0000, Hans wrote:

 > The series started off great. Then the author lost all focus on reality
 > and the true reality of the situation he had created.
 >
 > Sending people from his community out as ambassadors was MORONIC!
 >
 > Sending the only people that have any knowledge of electronics and radio
 > theory out on a fools errand was nothing short of CRIMINALLY STUPID!
 >
 >
He did explain why the government was "spending" the uptimers, instead of
conserving their precious knowledge. The reason, in a nutshell, is that
people need them, and to protect them too much would set the basis for an
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 17:49:21 -0700, Offbreed wrote:

 > Harry covld step over the line withovt noticing, if he did not have the
 > vnion and Mike Stearns to provide his moral strvctvre for him. Bvt, if
 > they were crooked, he wovld have a lot of dead behind him, IMO.

I think that he is described that way. I'm not svre he has no moral
compass, I think that he is probably a believer in the vnion principles
and in "the American flag".
However, he is rvthless, and is described as someone who wovld have a lot
of dead behind him.

Is he a person that yov shovld be carefvl of? Maybe.
Is he a great person to have on yovr side? Definitely.
All societies need people like that - hopefvlly, they manage to restrain
them and keep them pointed in the right direction. Why do yov think he
ended vp in the eqvivalent of OFS? That really fits his personality. (my
gvess is that a lot of covert ops gvys have that personality - they will
do anything for their principles. This is scary, bvt vsefvl)

What will happen to him in a covple of decades, assvming he svrvives? Who
knows.

PS
My sympathies for what has happened to yov and yovr family.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Uri David Akavia wrote:

> PS
> My sympathies for what has happened to you and your family.

Thank you.

Long ago and far away, and the SOB's were long gone by the time I put
it together.
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 > Since I bought the first two hardcover's and subscriptions to the subsequent
 > ebooks, I guess I should have the right to express a opinion, at least once.
 > The first two books in the 1633 series were OK, but I've found the following
 > material to be increasingly boring. If the books were coming from a author I
 > hadn't read before I might continue to buy them, but they would be way down
 > on the slush pile. But it's got to the point,especially when I read of the
 > plans for extensive future books in this series and nothing coming from
 > these same authors in unfinished and much, much, better characters and
 > series that have to stop buying this series and supporting what I (and
 > perhaps only I) feel is a waste of everyone's time.
 >
 > That's my vote, please accept that I don't wish to offend anyone, and that
 > done I'm finished. Thank You.
 > I feel better now.
 >
 > J. Allan Cahill
Eric is an accidental author, he never expected his first book to be published. Would that
it were so! Unfortunately he is going to be inflicting his particular style of bad writing
on the world until sales no longer justify the cost of publishing.
Too bad, however, Eric is a perfect example of Sturgeons Law - 90 percent of everything is
carp!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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In article <408c637e$0$61724$a04e5680@nnrp.fuse.net>,
"David" <drorer.DeleteThis@fuse.net> wrote:

 > Eric is an accidental author, he never expected his first book to be
 > published. Would that it were so! Unfortunately he is going to be
 > inflicting his particular style of bad writing on the world until
 > sales no longer justify the cost of publishing. Too bad, however,
 > Eric is a perfect example of Sturgeons Law - 90 percent of everything
 > is carp!

That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, even if it bears no
semblance to reality.

--
Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Vote for John Kerry.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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You're right! ... Sorta! Actually everything is crap... first Big Bang crap and
then super nova crap ... several super nova craps actually.

However as far and the 1632 series is concerned... It has proven to be
thoughtless to an unbelievable extreme!

It is totally unbelievable that you have someone who SHOULD have died from
hypothermia resurrected and acting as a spy. (Get this straight! There were NO
boats in the area after the sea battle that could have rescued anyone as ALL
ships had been scared off and headed south!

It is STUPID beyond belief that anyone would send emmisaries out on fools
errands in the midst of a plague... not to mention the hostilities and the
uptimers knowledge of the people that they were sent to meet.

Dumber yet we have two people the understand the existing phone systems and
there they are gallivanting around and then deciding to stay out of the NUS!

And the notion the there should be a telegraph when there is knowledge and parts
to make AM band radio transmitters. Use the wire to make hi-gain transmitter
antennas and hi-gain directional receiving antennas. Radio antennas can be
protected... telegraph wires can't!

Not to have collected all computers and computer equipment and supplies and
secured them in a high security site is short sighted to the nth degree. This
is non replaceable technology that was designed as throw-away goods!

Then there is the editing of the fan stories and total lack of editing into new
stories what has transpired in the fan stories... even to the point where in one
of the fan stories an item was being treated as gold and in the third book the
same item is being given out like so many lumps of coal.

WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

BAH!


Michelle Steiner wrote:
 > In article <408c637e$0$61724$a04e5680@nnrp.fuse.net>,
 > "David" <drorer RemoveThis @fuse.net> wrote:
 >
 >
  >>Eric is an accidental author, he never expected his first book to be
  >>published. Would that it were so! Unfortunately he is going to be
  >>inflicting his particular style of bad writing on the world until
  >>sales no longer justify the cost of publishing. Too bad, however,
  >>Eric is a perfect example of Sturgeons Law - 90 percent of everything
  >>is carp!
 >
 >
 > That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, even if it bears no
 > semblance to reality.
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 > Then there is the editing of the fan stories and total lack of editing
 > into new stories what has transpired in the fan stories... even to the
 > point where in one of the fan stories an item was being treated as gold
 > and in the third book the same item is being given out like so many
 > lumps of coal.

To which item are you referring?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Potatoes as X-Mas gifts... before X-mas was in wide use or a custom.


Uri David Akavia wrote:
  >>Then there is the editing of the fan stories and total lack of editing
  >>into new stories what has transpired in the fan stories... even to the
  >>point where in one of the fan stories an item was being treated as gold
  >>and in the third book the same item is being given out like so many
  >>lumps of coal.
 >
 >
 > To which item are you referring?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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You mean the fact that potatoes are a rarity in "When the Chips are Down",
and in "Here Comes Santa Claus", after, after the Uptimer boys had
organized a "let's get everybody to like potatoes", an event which
succeeded (getting people to ask about seeds in preparation for growing
them), then potatoes are being given as X-Mas gifts, at the specific
request of a popular Uptimer (Julie). (All of which happens one year after
they got the GV population to like potatoes)

Gee, I can really see the flaws in that.

You can argue that convincing people to like potatoes wouldn't have
worked. You can argue that people wouldn't have accepted X-Mas (it
existed, but not as a big gifting holiday) but you'd be on shaky ground.
If people managed to accept the existence of GV, what's so hard about
deciding to bring gifts, to humor one of these strange uptimers?

Sheesh.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:04:39 +0000, Hans wrote:

> Potatoes as X-Mas gifts... before X-mas was in wide use or a custom.
>
>
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Uri David Akavia wrote:

> worked. You can argue that people wouldn't have accepted X-Mas (it
> existed, but not as a big gifting holiday) but you'd be on shaky ground.
> If people managed to accept the existence of GV, what's so hard about
> deciding to bring gifts, to humor one of these strange uptimers?

"Who cares what the party's about?"
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