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holliday

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:45 pm
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Troels Forchhammer wrote:
> In message
> Öjevind Lång spoke these staves:
>
> |: This one must be 'mineral' (which I interpret rather broadly
> |: to cover all inorganic matter of Arda/Eä).
> |: 1: The breadbox question.
> |: No (bigger)
> |: 2: Does it occur in only one of the books (ie. eg.
> |: only in the LotR, only in The Hobbit etc.)?
> |: It figures in only one of the major books (Silm, CoH,
> |: TH, LotR). I have not checked the more fragmented
> |: books (UT and the HoMe).
> |: 3. is it a solid object?
> |: It is solid, yes
> |: 4. Is it natural or manufactured?
> |: To cut the long philosophical discussion short,
> |: I'd call it natural.
> |: 5. Is it shiny?
> |: Nope.
> |: 6. Is it a part of a landscape?
> |: Yes, it is a feature of geography
> |: 7. Is it a mountain?
> |: No, not a mountain.
> |: -- Then I'll ask the expanded breadbox question ---
> |: 8. Is it bigger than a bus?
> |: 'Tis hard to say for sure, but I believe it is --
> |: and I am certain that whatever the volume there is
> |: at least one dimension in which this feature is
> |: larger than a bus . . .
> |: 9. Hm. Is the certainty that it is taller than a bus, but
> |: may be shorter and/or narrower?
> |: Yes
> |: 10. Did Frodo see it, or at least be near it?
> |: Aye, he did.
> |: 11. Was it located west of Anduin?
> |: No.
> |: 12. An Argonath?
> |: No.
> |: 13. Was it located in Gondor?
> |: Yes, it was within the borders of Gondor at its largest
> |: (I'm not sure where exactly Gondor's eastern borders were
> |: at the time of the War of the Ring).
>> 14. Is it a passage of some sort?
>
> No.
>
(summary: a natural geographic mineral feature, not a mountain, probably
smaller than a mountain. Not an Argonath rules out other monuments.
East of Anduin, which suggests in or on the borders of Mordor.
I have a suspicion, but - )

15. Is it a singular feature, or are there many similar objects?

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troels2

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:25 pm
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Glenn Holliday spoke these staves:
>

|: This one must be 'mineral' (which I interpret rather broadly
|: to cover all inorganic matter of Arda/Eä).
|: 1: The breadbox question.
|: No (bigger)
|: 2: Does it occur in only one of the books (ie. eg.
|: only in the LotR, only in The Hobbit etc.)?
|: It figures in only one of the major books (Silm, CoH,
|: TH, LotR). I have not checked the more fragmented
|: books (UT and the HoMe).
|: 3. is it a solid object?
|: It is solid, yes
|: 4. Is it natural or manufactured?
|: To cut the long philosophical discussion short,
|: I'd call it natural.
|: 5. Is it shiny?
|: Nope.
|: 6. Is it a part of a landscape?
|: Yes, it is a feature of geography
|: 7. Is it a mountain?
|: No, not a mountain.
|: -- Then I'll ask the expanded breadbox question ---
|: 8. Is it bigger than a bus?
|: 'Tis hard to say for sure, but I believe it is --
|: and I am certain that whatever the volume there is
|: at least one dimension in which this feature is
|: larger than a bus . . .
|: 9. Hm. Is the certainty that it is taller than a bus, but
|: may be shorter and/or narrower?
|: Yes
|: 10. Did Frodo see it, or at least be near it?
|: Aye, he did.
|: 11. Was it located west of Anduin?
|: No.
|: 12. An Argonath?
|: No.
|: 13. Was it located in Gondor?
|: Yes, it was within the borders of Gondor at its largest
|: (I'm not sure where exactly Gondor's eastern borders were
|: at the time of the War of the Ring).
|: 14. Is it a passage of some sort?
|: No.
>
> (summary: a natural geographic mineral feature, not a mountain,
> probably smaller than a mountain. Not an Argonath rules out other
> monuments. East of Anduin, which suggests in or on the borders of
> Mordor. I have a suspicion, but - )
>
> 15. Is it a singular feature, or are there many similar objects?

There is at least one other similar object, though smaller in size.

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Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <troelsfo(a)gmail.com>
Please put [AFT], [RABT] or 'Tolkien' in subject.

Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does
knowledge.
- Charles Darwin (1809 - 1882)

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Tamf Moo

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:25 am
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Troels Forchhammer wrote:
> In message
> Glenn Holliday spoke these staves:
[snip, to spare the PgDn]
>> (summary: a natural geographic mineral feature, not a mountain,
>> probably smaller than a mountain. Not an Argonath rules out other
>> monuments. East of Anduin, which suggests in or on the borders of
>> Mordor. I have a suspicion, but - )
>>
>> 15. Is it a singular feature, or are there many similar objects?
>
> There is at least one other similar object, though smaller in size.

is it a rock?

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tamf

I see two Gandalfs and church bell. And two half lions chasing
a bull rat each over the lake. (Rorschach tests seen by "Illogic")
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:25 pm
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In message Tamf Moo
spoke these staves:
>

|: This one must be 'mineral' (which I interpret rather broadly
|: to cover all inorganic matter of Arda/E„).
|: 1: The breadbox question.
|: No (bigger)
|: 2: Does it occur in only one of the books (ie. eg.
|: only in the LotR, only in The Hobbit etc.)?
|: It figures in only one of the major books (Silm, CoH,
|: TH, LotR). I have not checked the more fragmented
|: books (UT and the HoMe).
|: 3. is it a solid object?
|: It is solid, yes
|: 4. Is it natural or manufactured?
|: To cut the long philosophical discussion short,
|: I'd call it natural.
|: 5. Is it shiny?
|: Nope.
|: 6. Is it a part of a landscape?
|: Yes, it is a feature of geography
|: 7. Is it a mountain?
|: No, not a mountain.
|: -- Then I'll ask the expanded breadbox question ---
|: 8. Is it bigger than a bus?
|: 'Tis hard to say for sure, but I believe it is --
|: and I am certain that whatever the volume there is
|: at least one dimension in which this feature is
|: larger than a bus . . .
|: 9. Hm. Is the certainty that it is taller than a bus, but
|: may be shorter and/or narrower?
|: Yes
|: 10. Did Frodo see it, or at least be near it?
|: Aye, he did.
|: 11. Was it located west of Anduin?
|: No.
|: 12. An Argonath?
|: No.
|: 13. Was it located in Gondor?
|: Yes, it was within the borders of Gondor at its largest
|: (I'm not sure where exactly Gondor's eastern borders were at
|: the time of the War of the Ring).
|: 14. Is it a passage of some sort?
|: No.
|: 15. Is it a singular feature, or are there many similar objects?
|: There is at least one other similar object, though smaller
|: in size.
>
> is it a rock?

Hmm . . . I believe it would be an appropriate description.

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Troels Forchhammer
Valid e-mail is <troelsfo(a)gmail.com>
Please put [AFT], [RABT] or 'Tolkien' in subject.

It is the theory which decides what can be observed.
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
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