2003

On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:06:51 GMT, "Sasha Rowan" <mholman2.TakeThisOut@cfl.rr.com>
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 >"Aaron" <kem_tekNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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  >> How do you pronounce the current year, 2003?
  >>
  >> I say 'two thousand three', but I have heard 'twenty oh three' which
  >> does not sound right to me.
  >>
  >> I wonder if it varies by region???
 >
 >I've always heard two thousand three or just oh three here in Florida.

I don't think one should use 'ought three' until at least 2050.

"Why, back in ought three, we had to use a hand-held remote to change
channels, and we had to work the controls with our fingers. You young
whippersnappers don't know how easy you have it."


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"William George Ferguson" <wmgfrgsn RemoveThis @newsguy.com> wrote in message
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 > On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:06:51 GMT, "Sasha Rowan" <mholman2 RemoveThis @cfl.rr.com>
 > wrote:
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  > >"Aaron" <kem_tekNOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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   > >> How do you pronounce the current year, 2003?
   > >>
   > >> I say 'two thousand three', but I have heard 'twenty oh three' which
   > >> does not sound right to me.
   > >>
   > >> I wonder if it varies by region???
  > >
  > >I've always heard two thousand three or just oh three here in Florida.
 >
 > I don't think one should use 'ought three' until at least 2050.
 >

It's not so much ought three, just "what year is it?" "Oh three" "K,
thanks" type of thing.
 > "Why, back in ought three, we had to use a hand-held remote to change
 > channels, and we had to work the controls with our fingers. You young
 > whippersnappers don't know how easy you have it."

Point!

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Aaron <kem_tekNOSPAM.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> writes:

 >How do you pronounce the current year, 2003?

 >I say 'two thousand three', but I have heard 'twenty oh three' which
 >does not sound right to me.

Um...maybe it's from having experience in a communications-oriented
environment, but I'll normally "spell" it out as "two-double-oh-three"
if it's in four digits, or just "oh-three" if two.

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On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:24:02 +0000 (UTC), Joe Morris stomped
through my brain with:

 >Um...maybe it's from having experience in a communications-oriented
 >environment, but I'll normally "spell" it out as "two-double-oh-three"
 >if it's in four digits, or just "oh-three" if two.

I've heard it most as two-thousand three (for all you non-math
pedants, you don't use the word "and" until you hit a decimal
point).

However, I see the logic in twenty-oh-03. After all, we didn't
say one thousand nine hundred ninety nine, did we?

Tristaan
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Tristaan wrote:
 > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:24:02 +0000 (UTC), Joe Morris stomped
 > through my brain with:
 >
 >
  >>Um...maybe it's from having experience in a communications-oriented
  >>environment, but I'll normally "spell" it out as "two-double-oh-three"
  >>if it's in four digits, or just "oh-three" if two.
 >
 >
 > I've heard it most as two-thousand three (for all you non-math
 > pedants, you don't use the word "and" until you hit a decimal
 > point).
 >
 > However, I see the logic in twenty-oh-03. After all, we didn't
 > say one thousand nine hundred ninety nine, did we?
 >
 > Tristaan

Of course Scrantonites say "two tousand an tree" (Son, I say son,no
pedancy, it's a joke).


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In article <nv29lv02ns4rdmrau6ii3t1je8emu88aoc.RemoveThis@4ax.com>
tristaanus.RemoveThis@yahoo.com "Tristaan" writes:

 > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:24:02 +0000 (UTC), Joe Morris stomped
 > through my brain with:
 >
  > >Um...maybe it's from having experience in a communications-oriented
  > >environment, but I'll normally "spell" it out as "two-double-oh-three"
  > >if it's in four digits, or just "oh-three" if two.
 >
 > I've heard it most as two-thousand three (for all you non-math
 > pedants, you don't use the word "and" until you hit a decimal
 > point).

some of us non-math pedants _would_ say two thousand and three.

 > However, I see the logic in twenty-oh-03. After all, we didn't
^^^^^
surely this should be twenty-oh-3?

 > say one thousand nine hundred ninety nine, did we?

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On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:46:21 +0000 (UTC), Ray Almond stomped
through my brain with:

  >> I've heard it most as two-thousand three (for all you non-math
  >> pedants, you don't use the word "and" until you hit a decimal
  >> point).
 >
 >some of us non-math pedants _would_ say two thousand and three.

<shaking his head> How far we have fallen...

  >> However, I see the logic in twenty-oh-03. After all, we didn't
 > ^^^^^
 >surely this should be twenty-oh-3?

Yeah, my mistake...got ahead of myself there.

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In an article on a.b.m-l "Tristaan" writes:

 > On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:46:21 +0000 (UTC), Ray Almond stomped
 > through my brain with:
 >
   > >> I've heard it most as two-thousand three (for all you non-math
   > >> pedants, you don't use the word "and" until you hit a decimal
   > >> point).
  > >
  > >some of us non-math pedants _would_ say two thousand and three.
 >
 > <shaking his head> How far we have fallen...

Aargh....
Think I must have been even more tired than I thought I was when I
posted that. What I was trying to say was the correct English here
in the UK would be "two thousand and three", or "one thousand nine
hundred and ninety nine". The "and" is correct here.

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On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 22:33:45 +0000 (UTC), Ray Almond stomped
through my brain with:

   >> >some of us non-math pedants _would_ say two thousand and three.
  >>
  >> <shaking his head> How far we have fallen...
 >
 >Aargh....
 >Think I must have been even more tired than I thought I was when I
 >posted that. What I was trying to say was the correct English here
 >in the UK would be "two thousand and three", or "one thousand nine
 >hundred and ninety nine". The "and" is correct here.

<twitch, twitch, shudder> Sorry, the mathematician in me just
cannot get past that...it makes me....itchy...

Tristaan

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Ray.RemoveThis@amygdala.demon.co.uk (Ray Almond) writes:

 >In an article on a.b.m-l "Tristaan" writes:

  >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:46:21 +0000 (UTC), Ray Almond stomped
  >> through my brain with:

   >> >> I've heard it most as two-thousand three (for all you non-math
   >> >> pedants, you don't use the word "and" until you hit a decimal
   >> >> point).

   >> >some of us non-math pedants _would_ say two thousand and three.

  >> <shaking his head> How far we have fallen...

 >Aargh....
 >Think I must have been even more tired than I thought I was when I
 >posted that. What I was trying to say was the correct English here
 >in the UK would be "two thousand and three", or "one thousand nine
 >hundred and ninety nine". The "and" is correct here.

....or you could take a cue from Microsoft (the source of all good
things, at least according to Uncle Bill) and call it 2K3.

MS uses the term "Windows 2K3" for its new bloatware server,
Windows Server 2003.

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<mct.DeleteThis@no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
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> Tristaan scribbled:
> > On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 22:33:45 +0000 (UTC), Ray Almond stomped
> > through my brain with:
>
> >>> >some of us non-math pedants _would_ say two thousand and three.
> >>>
> >>> <shaking his head> How far we have fallen...
> >>
> >>Aargh....
> >>Think I must have been even more tired than I thought I was when I
> >>posted that. What I was trying to say was the correct English here
> >>in the UK would be "two thousand and three", or "one thousand nine
> >>hundred and ninety nine". The "and" is correct here.
>
> > <twitch, twitch, shudder> Sorry, the mathematician in me just
> > cannot get past that...it makes me....itchy...
>
> That's peculiar. I learned what Ray did - the "and" is
> appropriate in that context.

Same here. I was taught that it was fine to include the "and" so long as it
was not used in a mathematical context (this included "2 plus 2 equals 4"
versus "2 and 2 is/are 4"
Dates and other non-mathematical terms were not included in the "don't ever
let me hear you say 'and'" threat.
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<mct RemoveThis @no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
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> Tristaan scribbled:
> > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:21:02 +0000 (UTC),
> > mct RemoveThis @no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu stomped through my brain with:
> Then again, I am currently feeling quite tolerant of all
> things human, humane and non-criminal. I recently found a
> www site that gave brief biographies of famous serial killers
> and read up on a dozen names I've heard repeatedly and never
> heard the details on.
>
> Now I know the details.
>
> Rather wish I didn't.
>
> Grammar discrepancies? No problemo, man...

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On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 16:07:49 -0400, Tristaan <tristaanus.DeleteThis@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:21:02 +0000 (UTC),
>mct@no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu stomped through my brain with:
>
>>> <twitch, twitch, shudder> Sorry, the mathematician in me just
>>> cannot get past that...it makes me....itchy...
>>
>>That's peculiar. I learned what Ray did - the "and" is
>>appropriate in that context.
>>
>>My grammar-nerves get twitchy when the "and" is _not_ there!
>>(My math nerves are fine, thanks.)
>
>I guess it's common usage that, when refering to a year for date
>purposes, you use the "and" after the hundreds place.
>
>However, proper mathematical dictation of numeric values, to be
>correct, the number 2003 is read as "two thousand three".
>
>"two thousand and three" is usually written as 2000.3 and is,
>infact, incorrect in that the usual response is "three what?".
>It would be more correct to say "two thousand and three tenths"
>for 2000.3.
>
>Tristaan (had this drilled into his head in 5th grade)

It's obvious you did NOT study 5th grade in Australia, then. The
number would *always* be read here as 'two thousand and three'. If
there was a decimal place, it would be 'two thousand and three point
<x>'

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