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Since: Jul 06, 2003 Posts: 235
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:28 pm
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<mct RemoveThis @no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
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> Sasha Rowan scribbled:
> > <mct RemoveThis @no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
> >> Tristaan scribbled:
> >> Then again, I am currently feeling quite tolerant of all
> >> things human, humane and non-criminal. I recently found a
> >> www site that gave brief biographies of famous serial killers
> >> and read up on a dozen names I've heard repeatedly and never
> >> heard the details on.
> >>
> >> Now I know the details.
> >> Rather wish I didn't.
> >> Grammar discrepancies? No problemo, man...
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> > [[[[[[[[[hugs]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
> > Now just sit right here with a warm blankie and some hot cocoa. In just
a
> > minute, we'll run a showing of your favorite movie from the past that
gives
> > you warm fuzzies and makes you forget all bad things.
>
> Thank you.
>
> I really did have chocolate milk with dinner. :>
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> Doggie and I are taking the evening walks only on well
> populated roads for the next little while.
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> (I enjoy murder mysteries. But evidently only fictional
> ones. Am currently reading _Two Towers_, which is nice,
> since the bad guys are all clearly labeled and obvious.)
Life would be so much easier if it would simply imitate "art" (or in this
case, old westerns) and the bad guys would simply wear black hats.... The
last high profile case we had was with a child who went from missing to
murdered in the space of about 24 hours. When the finally caught the guy he
was so "average" - you'd never notice him anywhere. It scared me as much as
it did when they caught Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo. <shudder>
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TTFN
Paige
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Since: Jun 28, 2003 Posts: 475
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 1:55 pm
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"Paige" <ppwalker.DeleteThis@sympatico.ca> writes:
>Life would be so much easier if it would simply imitate "art" (or in this
>case, old westerns) and the bad guys would simply wear black hats....
....with the partial exception of Hopalong Cassidy, who wore a black hat.
I say "partial" since he was originally been not a particularly nice
character.
For our non-US readership, Clarance Mulford's pulp stories in the early
1930s had a "foul-mouthed, whisky guzzling cow hand who hobbled along
with a limp" (and thus Hop-A-Long as the name). William Boyd, who
AFAIK was the only actor ever to portray Hopalong, turned him into a
Good Guy, but kept the black hat.
Boyd later bought the rights to the character from Mulford, and
negotiated with the fledgling TV networks in the 1950s to broadcast
his old films...reputedly the first appearance on network TV of films
from major Hollywood studios. He also is said to be one of the first
people to license a character's likeness for merchandise.
He was so completely identified with the Hopalong character that when
he died in 1972 several papers printed obituaries of "Hopalong Cassidy".
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Since: Jul 07, 2003 Posts: 345
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 12:46 am
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On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 05:10:19 +0000 (UTC),
mct DeleteThis @no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu wrote:
>Doggie and I are taking the evening walks only on well
>populated roads for the next little while.
Not to make your fears worse, but that isn't always safe. A
lot of times when I take Phoenix out into the yard, especially early
in the morning or late at night, I think of the sniper shootings this
area had a year ago. (Thankfully, I didn't live here then.) I can't
imagine being in fear every time you took the dog to the bathroom...
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Since: Aug 11, 2003 Posts: 114
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 3:54 am
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"Tristaan" <tristaanus DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:24:02 +0000 (UTC), Joe Morris stomped
> through my brain with:
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> >Um...maybe it's from having experience in a communications-oriented
> >environment, but I'll normally "spell" it out as "two-double-oh-three"
> >if it's in four digits, or just "oh-three" if two.
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> I've heard it most as two-thousand three (for all you non-math
> pedants, you don't use the word "and" until you hit a decimal
> point).
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> However, I see the logic in twenty-oh-03. After all, we didn't
> say one thousand nine hundred ninety nine, did we?
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> Tristaan
Umm... Tris, unless I am deliberately misinterpreting that... you just said
20003. twenty (20) oh (0) 03 (03)
I knew I was behind on my e'mail, but I didn't think it had been THAT long!
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Since: Jul 03, 2003 Posts: 275
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 10:26 pm
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On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 08:41:13 -0400, Tristaan <tristaanus.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 10:37:13 +0930, Mummy Az stomped through my
>brain with:
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>>>"two thousand and three" is usually written as 2000.3 and is,
>>>infact, incorrect in that the usual response is "three what?".
>>>It would be more correct to say "two thousand and three tenths"
>>>for 2000.3.
>>>
>>>Tristaan (had this drilled into his head in 5th grade)
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>>It's obvious you did NOT study 5th grade in Australia, then. The
>>number would *always* be read here as 'two thousand and three'. If
>>there was a decimal place, it would be 'two thousand and three point
>><x>'
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>And then my 12th grade calc teacher and my college math profs
>would have had a coniption fit if I said, "point" anything. It
>was "and two tenths" or "and 56 hundredths".
>
>Tristaan
<g> Isn't it interesting how in different countries things are done
differently? Most University level maths profs here would get annoyed
if you *didn't* say 'point' x if you meant tenths or hundredths. Or
at least, so I've been told. I didn't study Maths beyond year 11, but
Himself did, and a friend of mine has a PhD in the stuff.
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Since: Jul 01, 2003 Posts: 422
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:10 am
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>>And then my 12th grade calc teacher and my college math profs
>>would have had a coniption fit if I said, "point" anything. It
>>was "and two tenths" or "and 56 hundredths".
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>>Tristaan
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><g> Isn't it interesting how in different countries things are done
>differently? Most University level maths profs here would get annoyed
>if you *didn't* say 'point' x if you meant tenths or hundredths. Or
>at least, so I've been told. I didn't study Maths beyond year 11, but
>Himself did, and a friend of mine has a PhD in the stuff.
>
>Az
.... then there's that nasty business with the "." vs. the "," for
separating thousands and decimals. <G>
The Bookwurm
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Since: Jul 03, 2003 Posts: 275
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:48 am
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On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:10:45 GMT, laney2.DeleteThis@comfishcast.net (Rhino 7)
wrote:
>>>And then my 12th grade calc teacher and my college math profs
>>>would have had a coniption fit if I said, "point" anything. It
>>>was "and two tenths" or "and 56 hundredths".
>>>
>>>Tristaan
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>><g> Isn't it interesting how in different countries things are done
>>differently? Most University level maths profs here would get annoyed
>>if you *didn't* say 'point' x if you meant tenths or hundredths. Or
>>at least, so I've been told. I didn't study Maths beyond year 11, but
>>Himself did, and a friend of mine has a PhD in the stuff.
>>
>>Az
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>... then there's that nasty business with the "." vs. the "," for
>separating thousands and decimals. <G>
>
>The Bookwurm
I suspect it all comes down to whether one speaks The King's English *
or some other variant.
Az
*The correct phrase is, in fact, The King's English, despite the fact
that those of us who live in the Commonwealth are currently reigned
over by a Queen. There was an official panel on the matter, and it
came down to the Chairman's deciding vote. His decision was that,
since the phrase originated at a time when the Monarch was male, the
phrase should remain as "The King's English" regardless of present-day
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Since: Jul 30, 2003 Posts: 293
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:05 pm
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>>>"two thousand and three" is usually written as 2000.3 and is,
>>>infact, incorrect in that the usual response is "three what?".
>>>It would be more correct to say "two thousand and three tenths"
>>>for 2000.3.
>>>
>>>Tristaan (had this drilled into his head in 5th grade)
>>
>>It's obvious you did NOT study 5th grade in Australia, then. The
>>number would *always* be read here as 'two thousand and three'. If
>>there was a decimal place, it would be 'two thousand and three point
>><x>'
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> And then my 12th grade calc teacher and my college math profs
> would have had a coniption fit if I said, "point" anything. It
> was "and two tenths" or "and 56 hundredths".
>
> Tristaan
Was his normal body temperature 98 and 6 tenths (degrees F)? I
think there might be a time for the shorter 98 point 6.
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Since: Jun 28, 2003 Posts: 475
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 1:26 pm
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Mummy Az <manth.RemoveThis@ozemail.com.au> writes:
>*The correct phrase is, in fact, The King's English, despite the fact
>that those of us who live in the Commonwealth are currently reigned
>over by a Queen. There was an official panel on the matter, and it
>came down to the Chairman's deciding vote. His decision was that,
>since the phrase originated at a time when the Monarch was male, the
>phrase should remain as "The King's English" regardless of present-day
>realities.
And "E*R" stands for "Elizabeth Rex"?
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Since: Jul 07, 2003 Posts: 345
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:51 pm
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2003 16:31:58 +0000 (UTC),
mct RemoveThis @no.more.spam.cs.berkeley.edu wrote:
><wry>Thanks ever so, I feel so much better.</wry>
I thought you would.
>As if I hadn't already considered the possibility of a drunk
>and/or psychotic maniac in one of those huge SUVs swerving...
I walk Phoenix in a big grassy area surrounded by a fence. No
swirving cars.
>(Unfortunately, it is far more likely that doggie will get
>a bug in his brain that some innoccent cyclist is
>A Deadly Enemy and lunge without warning at The Enemy, to
>protect me. Argh!)
I have the opposite problem. If the Deadly Enemy did appear,
Phoenix's only thought would be, "I wonder if this person will pet
me."
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Since: Jul 03, 2003 Posts: 275
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 10:06 am
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:29:56 -0400, Tristaan <tristaanus RemoveThis @yahoo.com>
wrote:
>I guess my point is that I was taught that there is a "correct"
>way of verbalizing a numeric, either in writing or in speech.
>This is not to say that there aren't other "accepted" ways of
>verbalizing the same, but that there is a "correct" way.
>
><shrug>
>
>Ah, well. Guess I'm too much of a math pedant, eh?
>
>Tristaan
My point was that the 'correct' way to verbalise a numeric seems to
vary. What you were taught as correct may not be what other people
were taught was correct.
I think it's probably going to be much like the Aluminium/Aluminum
debate - what is correct depends a lot on what brand of English you
speak.
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Since: Jul 30, 2003 Posts: 293
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 10:06 am
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>>I guess my point is that I was taught that there is a "correct"
>>way of verbalizing a numeric, either in writing or in speech.
>>This is not to say that there aren't other "accepted" ways of
>>verbalizing the same, but that there is a "correct" way.
>>
>><shrug>
>>
>>Ah, well. Guess I'm too much of a math pedant, eh?
>>
>>Tristaan
>
>
> My point was that the 'correct' way to verbalise a numeric seems to
> vary. What you were taught as correct may not be what other people
> were taught was correct.
>
> I think it's probably going to be much like the Aluminium/Aluminum
> debate - what is correct depends a lot on what brand of English you
> speak.
>
> Az
Do you mean aluminuminuminum....inum?
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Hemidemisemideity of Anonymous Eponymity
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Member of ABMLNCSC - Base singer, very base
"Mommy, make daddy stop singing"
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Since: Jul 06, 2003 Posts: 115
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:17 pm
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Tristaan <tristaanus.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> And then my 12th grade calc teacher and my college math profs
> would have had a coniption fit if I said, "point" anything. It
> was "and two tenths" or "and 56 hundredths".
Two tenths?
Fiftysix hunderedths?
What unimaginative fractions are that? You are an American, you should
use decent fractions, not this decimal french stuff!
51/256 (with an error less than 0.5 %)
9/16 (with an error less than 0.5 %)
Beware of the influence of the French. If you are not vigilant you will
actually elect your next president, and that surly is the way to doom.
Axel
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Since: Jul 30, 2003 Posts: 293
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 10:52 pm
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> Aaron scribbled:
> <snip>
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>>>> I walk Phoenix in a big grassy area surrounded by a fence. No
>>>>swirving cars.
>>>
>>>I would if there were one nearby.
>>>
>>>Well, there is one. But it is a buffer zone maintained
>>>for security purposes, and people with guns would be upset
>>>with me if I entered. Pepper likes walking next to it.
>>>I think. Hard to tell with all the bouncing and barking
>>>at the squirrels - safe on the other side of the fence -
>>>but I think it's happy barking.
>
>>Where are you, Lawrence Livermore Labs?
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> How did you guess?
>
> (Ok, not the world's hardest guess.)
I could not think of any prisons that needed computer geniuses
(genii??)
I once saw a school at a military base in CA that looked like a
small house. A small house with two tall barb-wire covered fences,
with cameras, mean looking patrol dogs between the fences, and
very armed guards at the gate. You could have been there.
> Megan
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I'm glad my Mom named me Aaron,
That's what everybody calls me.
Hemidemisemideity of Anonymous Eponymity
Holder of a provisional pedant licens/ce
(limited to the area of physical sciens/ce)
Member of ABMLNCSC - Base singer, very base
"Mommy, make daddy stop singing"
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Since: Jul 01, 2003 Posts: 422
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 12:38 am
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>> "... too pedantic"? IS there such a thing????
>> The Bookwurm
>> --
>> Goddess of Libraries ™,
>> Pedant in Chief
>Is you is or is you ain't a pedant?
>Dere ain't know in between!
>--
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>I'm glad my Mom named me Aaron,
>That's what everybody calls me.
OUCH!!
The Bookwurm
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