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On 30 Aug 2003 06:06:31 GMT, aurorax13.RemoveThis@aol.comma (Aurorax13) wrote:

  >>Review of a book called "How to Get Your Child to Love Reading".
 >
  >>In truth, perhaps this book would be better for giving to
  >>non-ABML Moms who ask ABML Moms how they do it, since
  >>bookworm-age is already in full swing around here... <g>
 >
 >Honestly I had the only 2 yr old I had ever seen who would sit by himself and
 >look at a book for 30 mins to an hour at a time. Mommy did (and does) it,
 >Daddy did (and does) it, Aidan did and does it. Hopefully Nathan will do it.
 >(@ 10 months he just wants to eat the book {and everything else})
 >Aurora
 > "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat."
 > -L.
 >Long

My two did the same thing. I have a photograph I will *treasure*
always of Athena aged around 2 or 3 having fallen asleep with a book
in her hands. She's 'dead to the world' but wouldn't let go of her
book for anything!

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"Mummy Az" <manth RemoveThis @ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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 > On 30 Aug 2003 06:06:31 GMT, aurorax13 RemoveThis @aol.comma (Aurorax13) wrote:
 >
   > >>Review of a book called "How to Get Your Child to Love Reading".
  > >
   > >>In truth, perhaps this book would be better for giving to
   > >>non-ABML Moms who ask ABML Moms how they do it, since
   > >>bookworm-age is already in full swing around here... <g>
  > >
  > >Honestly I had the only 2 yr old I had ever seen who would sit by himself
and
  > >look at a book for 30 mins to an hour at a time. Mommy did (and does)
it,
  > >Daddy did (and does) it, Aidan did and does it. Hopefully Nathan will do
it.
  > >(@ 10 months he just wants to eat the book {and everything else})
  > >Aurora
  > > "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never dealt with a cat."
 >
-L.
  > >Long
 >
 > My two did the same thing. I have a photograph I will *treasure*
 > always of Athena aged around 2 or 3 having fallen asleep with a book
 > in her hands. She's 'dead to the world' but wouldn't let go of her
 > book for anything!


My three have all loved to go aff and look at books, although the younger
two are not nearly as into as the oldest was. He would (and still will) sit
and listen to us read until we literally could speak no more. The other two
bring me books to read and then spend the reading time fighting over who
sits next to Mommy.

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On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:40:58 GMT, "Sasha Rowan" <mholman2.DeleteThis@cfl.rr.com>
wrote:

 >My three have all loved to go aff and look at books, although the younger
 >two are not nearly as into as the oldest was. He would (and still will) sit
 >and listen to us read until we literally could speak no more. The other two
 >bring me books to read and then spend the reading time fighting over who
 >sits next to Mommy.

One reason I'm SO glad I only have 2 - Mummy has a left side and a
right side so there's room for each of them to sit next to me while I
read to them.

At 7 and 8 they STILL love to be read to, and a Bedtime Story is still
a part of the going-to-sleep ritual. These days, it's more likely to
be the latest chapter of a novel rather than a Picture Book but that's
fine. Since Evil Mummy will usually only read ONE chapter a night,
they have to read the next few chapters for themselves if they want to
know what's going to happen next. It gets them reading things much
beyond what they believe is their capacity...

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"Mummy Az" <manth.DeleteThis@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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 > On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:40:58 GMT, "Sasha Rowan" <mholman2.DeleteThis@cfl.rr.com>
 > wrote:
 >
  > >My three have all loved to go aff and look at books, although the younger
  > >two are not nearly as into as the oldest was. He would (and still will)
sit
  > >and listen to us read until we literally could speak no more. The other
two
  > >bring me books to read and then spend the reading time fighting over who
  > >sits next to Mommy.
 >
 > One reason I'm SO glad I only have 2 - Mummy has a left side and a
 > right side so there's room for each of them to sit next to me while I
 > read to them.

Most of the time, Dev prefers to play at my feet and the older two sit on
either side. But occasionally, they all decide to fight and it is usually
over the same side. I have begun ending that fight by making them sit in a
cirlce in front of me and turn the book after I read, like in story time.
 >
 > At 7 and 8 they STILL love to be read to, and a Bedtime Story is still
 > a part of the going-to-sleep ritual. These days, it's more likely to
 > be the latest chapter of a novel rather than a Picture Book but that's
 > fine. Since Evil Mummy will usually only read ONE chapter a night,
 > they have to read the next few chapters for themselves if they want to
 > know what's going to happen next. It gets them reading things much
 > beyond what they believe is their capacity...
 >
 > Az
 >

We alternate between chapter books for Joe and Picture books for the little
ones, but I often read 2 or 3 chapters a night when I read a chapter book.
At the moment, Joe is more afraid of trying and failing at reading bigger
books, than he is curious at what comes next. He just got glasses for
reading, so I am hoping they will make reading easier on him.

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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:04:58 GMT, "Sasha Rowan" <mholman2 RemoveThis @cfl.rr.com>
wrote:

>Most of the time, Dev prefers to play at my feet and the older two sit on
>either side. But occasionally, they all decide to fight and it is usually
>over the same side. I have begun ending that fight by making them sit in a
>cirlce in front of me and turn the book after I read, like in story time.

Athena is right handed, and prefers to sit at my right hand. Ishtar
is left handed and prefers to sit at my left hand. It works out
nicely.

<snip>
>We alternate between chapter books for Joe and Picture books for the little
>ones, but I often read 2 or 3 chapters a night when I read a chapter book.
>At the moment, Joe is more afraid of trying and failing at reading bigger
>books, than he is curious at what comes next. He just got glasses for
>reading, so I am hoping they will make reading easier on him.

It depends on how long the chapter is whether we read a whole chapter
or not. In fact, when we were reading Harry Potter we frequently only
managed half a chapter a night because they are so much longer than
many other books we read.

Athena was always afraid of trying and failing with her reading until
about a year ago. However, allowing her to read the chapter *to
herself*, rather than aloud really helped. Then, the next night I'd
read aloud the chapter she'd read to herself, and she'd see how well
she'd done. That improved her confidence no end and since then she's
gone from strength to strength. She tackles much more complicated
books now without needing help, but she still loves being read to.

Ishtar rarely seems afraid of failing - she laughs, shrugs it off and
keeps going! I hope she can keep that happy attitude going all her
life.

Az
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: It depends on how long the chapter is whether we read a whole chapter
: or not. In fact, when we were reading Harry Potter we frequently only
: managed half a chapter a night because they are so much longer than
: many other books we read.

They are MUCH too long for reading out loud--I simply don't have the
patience to read an entire chapter of HP to the kids. My husband,
though, has been reading it to Matt--they are now on the most recent
book. He sometimes manages several chapters in one day!

Edna


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 > Review of a book called "How to Get Your Child to Love Reading".
 >
 > In truth, perhaps this book would be better for giving to
 > non-ABML Moms who ask ABML Moms how they do it, since
 > bookworm-age is already in full swing around here... <g>

I've been trying to figure out how they fill a whole book on that
subject. <bemused smile>

It's just... I noticed what my parents did to encourage me to read.
They did two simple things: they read to me, and they read to themselves
for fun. The first got me used to reading. The second made it clear this
wasn't "just kid's stuff" that I'd "grow out of" when I grew up.

That's all they did. That's all it took, too, since it was certainly
effective. <BIG SMILE, REALLY BIG GRIN>


Anne
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"Mummy Az" <manth DeleteThis @ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:04:58 GMT, "Sasha Rowan" <mholman2 DeleteThis @cfl.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Most of the time, Dev prefers to play at my feet and the older two sit
> >on either side. But occasionally, they all decide to fight and it is
> >usually over the same side. I have begun ending that fight by making
> >them sit in a cirlce in front of me and turn the book after I read,
> >like in story time.
>
> Athena is right handed, and prefers to sit at my right hand. Ishtar
> is left handed and prefers to sit at my left hand. It works out
> nicely.

Looks like you lucked out there. <SMILE>

> >We alternate between chapter books for Joe and Picture books for the
> >little ones, but I often read 2 or 3 chapters a night when I read a
> >chapter book. At the moment, Joe is more afraid of trying and failing
> >at reading bigger books, than he is curious at what comes next. He
> >just got glasses for reading, so I am hoping they will make reading
> >easier on him.
>
> It depends on how long the chapter is whether we read a whole chapter
> or not. In fact, when we were reading Harry Potter we frequently only
> managed half a chapter a night because they are so much longer than
> many other books we read.

Dad gave up on ending at the end of chapters. Too many times, they end
in cliff-hangers! Then I'd beg him to go on to a good stopping place.
<smile> Eventually he looked out for them, and stopped there, and wouldn't
go on to the end of the chapter no mater how hard I begged. <chuckle,
smile>

> Athena was always afraid of trying and failing with her reading until
> about a year ago. However, allowing her to read the chapter *to
> herself*, rather than aloud really helped. Then, the next night I'd
> read aloud the chapter she'd read to herself, and she'd see how well
> she'd done. That improved her confidence no end and since then she's
> gone from strength to strength. She tackles much more complicated
> books now without needing help, but she still loves being read to.

Like I said, don't expect it to end any time soon. It's not going to
stop just because they can read the books themselves now. <smile>

> Ishtar rarely seems afraid of failing - she laughs, shrugs it off and
> keeps going! I hope she can keep that happy attitude going all her
> life.

Oh yes. That's a good way to approach things. <BIG SMILE>

> Az


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"Mummy Az" <manth.DeleteThis@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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 > On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:40:58 GMT, "Sasha Rowan" <mholman2.DeleteThis@cfl.rr.com>
 > wrote:

  > >My three have all loved to go aff and look at books, although the
  > >younger two are not nearly as into as the oldest was. He would (and
  > >still will) sit and listen to us read until we literally could speak no
  > >more. The other two bring me books to read and then spend the reading
  > >time fighting over who sits next to Mommy.
 >
 > One reason I'm SO glad I only have 2 - Mummy has a left side and a
 > right side so there's room for each of them to sit next to me while I
 > read to them.
 >
 > At 7 and 8 they STILL love to be read to, and a Bedtime Story is still
 > a part of the going-to-sleep ritual.

I hope you won't be too surprised if that doesn't stop any time soon.
Dad read to me into my teens. He only stopped when I wanted my bedtime
later than he wanted to stay up to read to me. <chuckle, smile>

 > These days, it's more likely to be the
 > latest chapter of a novel rather than a Picture Book but that's fine.

By the time he quit, Dad had been reading "adult" books to me for a few
years - fantasy, science fiction, and the occasional popular nonfiction
book. <SMILE>

 > Since Evil Mummy will usually only read ONE chapter a night,
 > they have to read the next few chapters for themselves if they want to
 > know what's going to happen next. It gets them reading things much
 > beyond what they believe is their capacity...

<chuckle> I bet it does. Good trick. Hopefully soon they won't be
worrying about capacity. <REALLY BIG GRIN>

 > Az


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On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:25:38 -1000, "Anne Elizabeth Baldwin"
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>"Mummy Az" <manth.TakeThisOut@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>> It depends on how long the chapter is whether we read a whole chapter
>> or not. In fact, when we were reading Harry Potter we frequently only
>> managed half a chapter a night because they are so much longer than
>> many other books we read.
>
> Dad gave up on ending at the end of chapters. Too many times, they end
>in cliff-hangers! Then I'd beg him to go on to a good stopping place.
><smile> Eventually he looked out for them, and stopped there, and wouldn't
>go on to the end of the chapter no mater how hard I begged. <chuckle,
>smile>

But that's WHY I like to end at the end of the chapter. The
cliffhanger 'just got to know what happens next' is why Athena started
to read the following chapters for herself. Independent reading is a
Good Thing.

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  > >
  > > Review of a book called "How to Get Your Child to Love Reading".
  > >
  > > In truth, perhaps this book would be better for giving to
  > > non-ABML Moms who ask ABML Moms how they do it, since
  > > bookworm-age is already in full swing around here... <g>
 >
 > I've been trying to figure out how they fill a whole book on that
 > subject. <bemused smile>
 >
 > It's just... I noticed what my parents did to encourage me to read.
 > They did two simple things: they read to me, and they read to themselves
 > for fun. The first got me used to reading. The second made it clear this
 > wasn't "just kid's stuff" that I'd "grow out of" when I grew up.
 >
 > That's all they did. That's all it took, too, since it was certainly
 > effective. <BIG SMILE, REALLY BIG GRIN>
 >
 >
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My parents bought me books on dinosaurs. Since they could no longer
pronounce the names- I had to read and that was at about age 2 or 3.
Mother brought me to this pediatric speech pathologist- becuase I
couldn't hear as a toddler <now I don't want to hear- today's music>
so this woman asks if I could talk...
Mother: What's the first feathered dinosaur?
lil 'Phyre: Archeapteryx silly!
Woman: <drops her teeth>

Additionally, I had already memorized "Who will play with little
dinosaur" and they couldn't cheat and skip parts. Of course the
obsession also lead to them being dragged into DC just to go to the
Natural History museum's third floor.

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"Mummy Az" <manth DeleteThis @ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:25:38 -1000, "Anne Elizabeth Baldwin"
> <anneb DeleteThis @aloha.net> wrote:
> >"Mummy Az" <manth DeleteThis @ozemail.com.au> wrote in message

> >> It depends on how long the chapter is whether we read a whole chapter
> >> or not. In fact, when we were reading Harry Potter we frequently
> >> only managed half a chapter a night because they are so much longer
> >> than many other books we read.
> >
> > Dad gave up on ending at the end of chapters. Too many times, they
> >end in cliff-hangers! Then I'd beg him to go on to a good stopping
> >place. <smile> Eventually he looked out for them, and stopped there,
> >and wouldn't go on to the end of the chapter no mater how hard I
> >begged. <chuckle, smile>
>
> But that's WHY I like to end at the end of the chapter.

<smile> Then you aren't the softy Dad was on this matter. I very often
managed to wheedle him into continuing past a cliffhanger ending. He
doesn't like those himself. <REALLY BIG GRIN>

> The
> cliffhanger 'just got to know what happens next' is why Athena started
> to read the following chapters for herself. Independent reading is a
> Good Thing.

Oh, I agree with independant reading being good. <SMILE> It's well
worth encouraging. It's just that that trick didn't work for us...
thankfully it wasn't really needed anyway. I wanted more reading in a day
than my parents and grandmother were willing to do, for all their
indulgence. That was quite enough to get me reading. <BIG SMILE, REALLY
BIG GRIN>

> Az


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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:03:32 -1000, "Anne Elizabeth Baldwin"
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>"Mummy Az" <manth.RemoveThis@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 22:25:38 -1000, "Anne Elizabeth Baldwin"
>> <anneb.RemoveThis@aloha.net> wrote:
>> >"Mummy Az" <manth.RemoveThis@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>
>> >> It depends on how long the chapter is whether we read a whole chapter
>> >> or not. In fact, when we were reading Harry Potter we frequently
>> >> only managed half a chapter a night because they are so much longer
>> >> than many other books we read.
>> >
>> > Dad gave up on ending at the end of chapters. Too many times, they
>> >end in cliff-hangers! Then I'd beg him to go on to a good stopping
>> >place. <smile> Eventually he looked out for them, and stopped there,
>> >and wouldn't go on to the end of the chapter no mater how hard I
>> >begged. <chuckle, smile>
>>
>> But that's WHY I like to end at the end of the chapter.
>
> <smile> Then you aren't the softy Dad was on this matter. I very often
>managed to wheedle him into continuing past a cliffhanger ending. He
>doesn't like those himself. <REALLY BIG GRIN>

Oh, I'm the World's Meanest Mummy. My girls know this already, and I
revel in the title. VERY occasionally, IF it's a short chapter coming
up AND a short chapter just finished AND we don't have an
early-morning-schoolday tomorrow I MIGHT get wheedled into an extra
chapter. Not often though and they know it.

>> The
>> cliffhanger 'just got to know what happens next' is why Athena started
>> to read the following chapters for herself. Independent reading is a
>> Good Thing.
>
> Oh, I agree with independant reading being good. <SMILE> It's well
>worth encouraging. It's just that that trick didn't work for us...
>thankfully it wasn't really needed anyway. I wanted more reading in a day
>than my parents and grandmother were willing to do, for all their
>indulgence. That was quite enough to get me reading. <BIG SMILE, REALLY
>BIG GRIN>
>
>> Az
>
>
> Anne

Different methods work for different kids. As long as you find the
one that works, that's all that matters, right?

Since the summer break is coming up we've agreed on our Big Summer
Read to be Harry Potter books 4 and 5. In Summer they tend to go to
bed more or less together so we can read a single chapter together.
Last night, as a special treat, we started on Goblet Of Fire. They
were Very Happy Munchkins when we turned out the light.

Az
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