The Who's Who of AFT/RABT 2008

"Zorag" <mr.zorag DeleteThis @gmail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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> I used to hang out with that crowd, a long long time ago, although I've
> never bowed down before the Alter of Tyope. Nice folks though.

You just did.

<anates>

Brân.
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> cad Peter Jackson

CAD is also an acronym for "Computer Aided Design". Is that one reason
why you called him that?

Marghvran.
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> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:05:16 +0100, Peter Knutsen
> <peter.RemoveThis@sagatafl.invalid> wrote:

>>Rivendell. Is this a trick question? That's where all the books and
>>scrolls are!

> Well, the Shire and Gondor have a sizable collection too!

Well, in the Shire they are mainly about Hobbit genealogies, which all
but hobbits find exceedingly dull. When it comes to Rivendell some of the
original authors are still around, to clarify questions you may have, and to
translate from the archaic language the old works are written in.

Corb.
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Öjevind Lång wrote:
> "Peter Knutsen" <peter.TakeThisOut@sagatafl.invalid> skrev i meddelandet
> [snip]
>
>>Children of Hurin (what's the diacritical again? The one over the "u"?
>
> Húrin.

Thanks.

(I did get the diacritical on Fëanor right, didn't I?)

--
Peter Knutsen
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Morgoth's Curse wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:05:16 +0100, Peter Knutsen
> <peter DeleteThis @sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>>Name/Alias(es):
>>
>>Peter Knutsen
>>
>>I play a character named "Salpad" in EVE Online (but am currently taking
>>a 1-month break from playing), and may have used peter34dk a few places
>>(because I live in #34). No other aliases.
>>
>>(I sometimes play multiple characters - one at a time - in WoW, but I
>>refuse to disclose their names.)
>
>
> As much as we appreciate the effort, no one really cares who you are
> elsewhere. The question only refers to aliases which have been or are
> being used in the Tolkien newsgroups so that we can search for
> previous posts.

I've never used an alias when posting on Usenet.

>>>Posting since:
>>
>>Not sure. I got on Usenet in 1997 or 1998, but I may not have found the
>>two Tolkien groups so early. Even if I did find them, I may not have
>>read much, and may not have posted at all.
>
>
> Better late than never. Welcome to the Tolkien newsgroups.

Thanks.


>>>Where would you live if you could dwell anywhere in Middle-earth?:
>>
>>Rivendell. Is this a trick question? That's where all the books and
>>scrolls are!
>
> Well, the Shire and Gondor have a sizable collection too!

I'm sure Gondor's collection is much smaller, and much less
well-maintained and well-indexed, than Rivendell's. And I'd expect the
Shire's collection to reflect the cultural and ideological blind spots
of Hobbits.

>>>What is your favorite Tolkien-related reference book?:
>>
>>Can't answer this, as I only have one, a Danish translation of David
>>Day's "Bestiary".
>
> I regret to inform you that David Day is not considered a legitimate
> reference. No less an authority than Christopher Tolkien has
> condemned David Day for his inventions and distortions.

Yes, I've heard that before.

>>>What other authors has Tolkien inspired you to read?:
>>
>>None. I remember finding out one day that Tolkien and C.S Lewis (which I
>>read without being inspired by Tolkien) had been part of some kind of
>>regular group (what I'd nowadays call a "crit group"), and so I got all
>>excited about finding out who these other guys were, thinking that maybe
>>they too had written some cool fantasy stories.
>
>
>>I quickly lost interest, though.
>
>
> You have my empathy. I've never been able to finish reading anything
> by C.S. Lewis myself.

I did manage to read all seven Narnia books, in Danish translation, when
I was a kid, even though the heavy-handed Christian allegory really
bothered me.

I'm referring to the other Inklings. AFAIK I used the New Grolier CD-ROM
Encyclopedia (this was way before Google) to try to find out smoething
about the other Inklings, and I probably quickly got the impression that
they weren't (prose) fantasy authors, or even science fiction authors,
and so I stopped bothering about them.

>>>Bonus question: Are you friend or foe of TEUNC, the Dark Lord of
>>>Chaos and Strife?
>>
>>I have no idea who he is. Someone involved with a variant of the Angband
>>roguelike computergame?
>
> If only it were! TEUNC is a sinister organization founded in the
> Tolkien newsgroups which advocates bad spelling and grammar.

I can't support that, then. I'm a long-standing member of a Danish
society devoted to correct language use. Neither my Danish nor my
English is flawless, but I work to improve it every now and then.

--
Peter Knutsen
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> If only it were! TEUNC is a sinister organization founded in the
> Tolkien newsgroups which advocates bad spelling and grammar.

Jsut lies hall lies i fink

> In other words, TEUNC is Life!

Psot correctid
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"Peter Knutsen" <peter.TakeThisOut@sagatafl.invalid> skrev i meddelandet
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> Öjevind Lång wrote:
>> "Peter Knutsen" <peter.TakeThisOut@sagatafl.invalid> skrev i meddelandet [snip]
>>
>>>Children of Hurin (what's the diacritical again? The one over the "u"?
>>
>> Húrin.
>
> Thanks.
>
> (I did get the diacritical on Fëanor right, didn't I?)

Oh, yes.

Öjevind
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Raven wrote:

> "Zorag" <mr.zorag.DeleteThis@gmail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
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>
>> I used to hang out with that crowd, a long long time ago, although I've
>> never bowed down before the Alter of Tyope. Nice folks though.
>
> You just did.

Alas! *Rending clothes, donning sackcloth and ashes, wailing with
repentance.* (I'd sacrifice a lamb too, just to be sure that I'll never
do it again, but that sort of thing usually doesn't go over so well
these days.)

Zorag.
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Sean wrote:

> * Ursula K LeGuin. The movie version of Earthsea was a worse mangling
> of a good fantasy story than even PJ's. Well, maybe they're about even

No, it's worse. There's no contest. I don't represent the consensus of
the Le Guin fan community, but from what I have read it is very rare to
find someone who liked the books and found any redeeming qualities in
the miniseries. There are a significant number of Tolkien fans that
also like PJ's movies (despite their many faults).

Zorag.
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Peter Knutsen <peter DeleteThis @sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
> Öjevind Lång wrote:
>> "Peter Knutsen" <peter DeleteThis @sagatafl.invalid> skrev i meddelandet

>>> Children of Hurin (what's the diacritical again? The one over the "u"?
>> Húrin.

BTW, what's important here is only that the vowel is long; Tolkien
himself changed his opinion what diacritical mark to use for that from
time to time. If also seen people write double-u in pure ASCII, i.e.
Huurin.

> (I did get the diacritical on Fëanor right, didn't I?)

And the trema here, OTOH, isn't really important; that's just to
tell English readers that they should pronounce it Fe-anor instead
of using a vowel as in English "fear". Most non-English readers are
not tempted to do that in the first place

- Dirk
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Dirk Thierbach wrote:

>> (I did get the diacritical on Fëanor right, didn't I?)

> And the trema here, OTOH, isn't really important; that's just to
> tell English readers that they should pronounce it Fe-anor instead
> of using a vowel as in English "fear". Most non-English readers are
> not tempted to do that in the first place

To somebody of Tolkien's educational level and period, that trema (diaresis)
would probably just be natural (though maybe not - Fowler's says it's more
common in America - but I was taught to use them). It's used with any
double-vowel, where the vowels are in separate syllables: cooperate, naive,
etc. But it's "coöperate" and "naïve", so I'd have thought it should
be "Feänor" (and your example of "fear" doesn't work in London, and
probably other places, where it's definitely pronounced "fee-yuh" )
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derek
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In message <news:1368222.r2rEEo1R1J@cedar.serverforest.com>
Derek Broughton <news.TakeThisOut@pointerstop.ca> spoke these staves:
>

<snip>

> Yeah, really.

LOL!

My apologies I'm afraid I completely misunderstood the intention .
.. .

Never having read the book, I didn't get the meaning and mistook it as
"everyone who has read LotR has also actually read the Sword" -- and
since I haven't read the latter, I answered "No"

So, now that I've learned what was the intention, I will expand on my
answer; ". . . and I never will!"

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Troels Forchhammer
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Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not
simpler.
- Albert Einstein
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In message <news:tn1qn3plbhaen44q0nfbpar19vh2jl9iao@4ax.com>
Morgoth's Curse <morgothscurse2002 DeleteThis @nospam.yahoo.com> spoke these
staves:
>
> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:05:16 +0100, Peter Knutsen
> <peter DeleteThis @sagatafl.invalid> wrote:
>>

<snip>

>> Not sure. I got on Usenet in 1997 or 1998, but I may not have
>> found the two Tolkien groups so early. Even if I did find them, I
>> may not have read much, and may not have posted at all.
>
> Better late than never. Welcome to the Tolkien newsgroups.

Unless we've had more than one Peter Knutsen, then this is not
Peter's first post.

(Google has one by a Peter Knutsen -- <pe... DeleteThis @knutsen.dk> in RABT from
29 June 2000)


<snip>

>> Rivendell. Is this a trick question? That's where all the books
>> and scrolls are!
>
> Well, the Shire and Gondor have a sizable collection too!

Yeah, well -- <div style="Heavy_Sarcasm">right!</div>

"Now this is a very fine example of an early eigth century
Southfarthing family tree. Look at the fine Oak leaves and in
particular the excellent bark-texture the artist has achieved by . .
.."

I think not.

> If only it were! TEUNC is a sinister organization founded in the
> Tolkien newsgroups which advocates bad spelling and grammar.

Which is worse? Advocating grammar or advocating bad spelling? >:->

> In other words, TEUNC is Evil Incarnate!

Of course not -- Peter, don't listen to his man -- honestly, he even
acknowledges to being a curse!

Now, if you can find a Friday to be in Copenhagen, then perhaps we
can invite Öjevind over and I'll give a round of beers (or the drink
of your choice) while we explain what TEUNC /really/ is (heh! Beat
that offer, Curse!)

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Troels Forchhammer
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Knowing what
thou knowest not
is in a sense
omniscience
- Piet Hein, /Omniscience/
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