Argonath Question

Aris Katsaris wrote:
 > "IamSeanC" <iamseanc.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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  >> Were there more than two statues at or near the Argonath? The
reason
  >> I ask is that in the movie, Frodo walks by a very large toppled
  >> head. Also we see several smaller statues about Amon Hen. Or were
  >> there only the two statues before the falls of Rauos? IIRC, Elendil
  >> and Isildur ( or was it Anarion? )
 >
 > The statues were Isildur and Anarion... The books mention no other
 > statues nearby...

Correct.

On the other hand, since Amon Hen had some special significance to the
Númenoreans/Gondorians it is not unreasonable to assume that there had
been some building and on the buildings some ornaments.


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"Aris Katsaris" <katsaris.DeleteThis@otenet.gr> wrote in message
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 > "IamSeanC" <iamseanc.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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  > > Were there more than two statues at or near the Argonath? The reason I
ask is
  > > that in the movie, Frodo walks by a very large toppled head. Also we see
  > > several smaller statues about Amon Hen. Or were there only the two
statues
  > > before the falls of Rauos? IIRC, Elendil and Isildur ( or was it
Anarion? )
 >
 > The statues were Isildur and Anarion... The books mention no other statues
 > nearby...
 >
 > Aris Katsaris
 >
 >

In the FotR EE dvd, Jackson notes in his commentary that Amon Hen is an
ancient place of worship for the Gondorians. Must have read a different book
to the one I read.

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 > From: "Kristian Damm Jensen" <REdammMOVE.TakeThisOut@ofir.dk>
 > Newsgroups: rec.arts.books.tolkien
 > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 21:42:50 +0100
 > Subject: Re: Argonath Question
 >
 > Aris Katsaris wrote:
  >> "IamSeanC" <iamseanc.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
  >> news:20040202150358.20033.00001317@mb-m17.aol.com...
   >>> Were there more than two statues at or near the Argonath? The
 > reason
   >>> I ask is that in the movie, Frodo walks by a very large toppled
   >>> head. Also we see several smaller statues about Amon Hen. Or were
   >>> there only the two statues before the falls of Rauos? IIRC, Elendil
   >>> and Isildur ( or was it Anarion? )
  >>
  >> The statues were Isildur and Anarion... The books mention no other
  >> statues nearby...
 >
 > Correct.
 >
 > On the other hand, since Amon Hen had some special significance to the
 > Númenoreans/Gondorians it is not unreasonable to assume that there had
 > been some building and on the buildings some ornaments.
 >

Agreed. Even some other minor statues lining paths even.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Alan Reynolds wrote:

 > In the FotR EE dvd, Jackson notes in his commentary that Amon Hen is an
 > ancient place of worship for the Gondorians. Must have read a different book
 > to the one I read.

Some of his comments do indicate that he read the book, but other times,
you don't know where something came from. I suspect, after several
years in development, he has conflated the books with various script
revisions. I've only seen the movies, and I have to be careful about
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:32:31 -0500, Chelsea Christenson
<Chelsea.Christenson RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:

 > I've only seen the movies, and I have to be careful about
 >remembering what's really in the book.

You have a WHOLE NEW WORLD waiting for you out there! Enjoy!

the softrat
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 >
 > In the FotR EE dvd, Jackson notes in his commentary that Amon Hen is an
 > ancient place of worship for the Gondorians. Must have read a different book
 > to the one I read.
 >
 > Alan

there are some interesting notions on gondor and the 'diminishing' of
the numenoreans in the history of middle earth, especially 'sauron
defeated'. at least for a while tolkien suspected that the gondorians
were so into towers because they hoped to catch a glimpse of the 'true
west'.

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the softrat wrote:
 > On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:32:31 -0500, Chelsea Christenson
 > <Chelsea.Christenson.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
 >
 >
  >>I've only seen the movies, and I have to be careful about
  >>remembering what's really in the book.
 >
 >
 > You have a WHOLE NEW WORLD waiting for you out there! Enjoy!

Okay, that didn't come out right. I meant, I've only _seen_ the movies,
as opposed to working on various versions of the story for several
years, and I have trouble with conflation.

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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 08:52:49 +0100, in a fit of madness Georg Schönegger
<g.schoenegger.DeleteThis@aon.at> declared:

  >> In the FotR EE dvd, Jackson notes in his commentary that Amon Hen is an
  >> ancient place of worship for the Gondorians. Must have read a different book
  >> to the one I read.
  >>
  >> Alan

 >there are some interesting notions on gondor and the 'diminishing' of
 >the numenoreans in the history of middle earth, especially 'sauron
 >defeated'. at least for a while tolkien suspected that the gondorians
 >were so into towers because they hoped to catch a glimpse of the 'true
 >west'.

Freud, however, had a different theory.

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R Dan Henry schrieb:
 >
 > On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 08:52:49 +0100, in a fit of madness Georg Schönegger
 > <g.schoenegger RemoveThis @aon.at> declared:
 >
   > >> In the FotR EE dvd, Jackson notes in his commentary that Amon Hen is an
   > >> ancient place of worship for the Gondorians. Must have read a different book
   > >> to the one I read.
   > >>
   > >> Alan
 >
  > >there are some interesting notions on gondor and the 'diminishing' of
  > >the numenoreans in the history of middle earth, especially 'sauron
  > >defeated'. at least for a while tolkien suspected that the gondorians
  > >were so into towers because they hoped to catch a glimpse of the 'true
  > >west'.
 >
 > Freud, however, had a different theory.
 >
 > --
 > R. Dan Henry
 > danhenry RemoveThis @inreach.com

lol, good point - especially with respect to numenorean fertility in
those diminishing years!

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