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Tim Kyger

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:00 pm
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I’m a sick puppy. I am actually trying to collect every published bit
of writing of Dr. Asimov’s.

I admit it. I’ve got the Collector’s Disease, BAD, and Must Have
Everything.

Thank Ghu for the *wonderful* bibliography on the Asimov homepage
site. It is a blessing. My hat is off to Edward Seiler. Many, many
kudos to him and to his colleagues.

It is also a curse, as there are some things in this bibilography that
are going to be difficult, if not impossible, to get.

As well, there are some listings in the bibilography that I don’t
think are, um, correct.

Consider! (as the Good Doctor might put it). What follows are three
listings in the Bibliography that I don’t think are right. (They’re
all non-fiction.)

“Imagination in Orbit” is an article about “rules of thumb for writing
good SF.” It is said to have been published in the March 1961 issue
of the Science Fiction Writers of America Bulletin. However, I don’t
think that there *was* an SFWA formed until roughly 1964-1965 or
thereabouts. Anyone know what the correct citation might be?

“Other Worlds to Conquer” is cited as appearing in the May 1951 (!)
issue of the Science Fiction Writers of America Bulletin. Again,
anyone know what the correct citation might be?

Finally, we come to “No More Willing Baby Machines,” cited as
appearing in Harper’s August 1972 issue. I’ve looked through
microfilm copies of this particular issue of Harper’s and can’t find
anything by Asimov in it. Anyone know what the correct citation might
be? (It’s the last one I’m asking about in *this* particular
posting!)

Asimov's Mysteries, folks.

Any ideas?


Thanks in advance!!!

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Joseph Nebus

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:25 pm
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Tim Kyger <TimBKyger RemoveThis @aol.com> writes:

>I=92m a sick puppy. I am actually trying to collect every published bit
>of writing of Dr. Asimov=92s.

>It is also a curse, as there are some things in this bibilography that
>are going to be difficult, if not impossible, to get.

Good luck. There are a couple people who've tried it; I
think the breaking point is usually the Ginn Science programs.
I'm not sure what the most-obscre Asimovinalia I have is, although
it isn't any of the real triumphs.


>As well, there are some listings in the bibilography that I don=92t
>think are, um, correct.

Quite possible, yes.



>=93Imagination in Orbit=94 is an article about =93rules of thumb for writing=

>good SF.=94 It is said to have been published in the March 1961 issue
>of the Science Fiction Writers of America Bulletin. However, I don=92t
>think that there *was* an SFWA formed until roughly 1964-1965 or
>thereabouts. Anyone know what the correct citation might be?

Good question. And yeah, the SFWA was formed in the mid-60s.
Well, there must have been some organization or organizations before
then; might there be one with a similar enough name to confuse people?


>=93Other Worlds to Conquer=94 is cited as appearing in the May 1951 (!)
>issue of the Science Fiction Writers of America Bulletin. Again,
>anyone know what the correct citation might be?

You know, I wonder if they're not just transposition errors.
Does trying, say, 1971 or 1981 turn up anything, if there are such
issues of the Bulletin?


>Finally, we come to =93No More Willing Baby Machines,=94 cited as
>appearing in Harper=92s August 1972 issue. I=92ve looked through
>microfilm copies of this particular issue of Harper=92s and can=92t find
>anything by Asimov in it. Anyone know what the correct citation might
>be? (It=92s the last one I=92m asking about in *this* particular
>posting!)

There, I don't know. But Harper's Magazine does have what
look like pretty thorough archives, with a search engine I can't locate.
It may be more accessible to ``library users -- click here'', though --
http://www.harpers.org/archive/1972
-- if you don't have a subscription. That's probably a good place to
track things down.

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Joseph Nebus
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deleteejseiler

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:21 pm
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In article
<602b1ed0-0784-4da2-8860-e1a51cec0276.TakeThisOut@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
Tim Kyger <TimBKyger.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:

> I¹m a sick puppy. I am actually trying to collect every published bit
> of writing of Dr. Asimov¹s.
>
> I admit it. I¹ve got the Collector¹s Disease, BAD, and Must Have
> Everything.

Welcome to the club.

>
> Thank Ghu for the *wonderful* bibliography on the Asimov homepage
> site. It is a blessing. My hat is off to Edward Seiler. Many, many
> kudos to him and to his colleagues.
>
> It is also a curse, as there are some things in this bibilography that
> are going to be difficult, if not impossible, to get.
>
> As well, there are some listings in the bibilography that I don¹t
> think are, um, correct.
>
> Consider! (as the Good Doctor might put it). What follows are three
> listings in the Bibliography that I don¹t think are right. (They¹re
> all non-fiction.)
>
> ³Imagination in Orbit² is an article about ³rules of thumb for writing
> good SF.² It is said to have been published in the March 1961 issue
> of the Science Fiction Writers of America Bulletin. However, I don¹t
> think that there *was* an SFWA formed until roughly 1964-1965 or
> thereabouts. Anyone know what the correct citation might be?

Gee, I'm not sure how that happened. The correct citation is the March
1961 issue of The Writer (magazine), pages 16-18 and 36.

>
> ³Other Worlds to Conquer² is cited as appearing in the May 1951 (!)
> issue of the Science Fiction Writers of America Bulletin. Again,
> anyone know what the correct citation might be?

Whatever goof occurred apparently affected this citation too. Once again
the correct source is The Writer (pages 148-151). What's interesting
about this item is I believe it is the first nonfiction piece by Asimov
to appear in a mass market publication (if you could consider The Writer
mass market, that is).

>
> Finally, we come to ³No More Willing Baby Machines,² cited as
> appearing in Harper¹s August 1972 issue. I¹ve looked through
> microfilm copies of this particular issue of Harper¹s and can¹t find
> anything by Asimov in it. Anyone know what the correct citation might
> be? (It¹s the last one I¹m asking about in *this* particular
> posting!)

That should be Harper's Bazaar, August 1972, pages 104-105.

>
> Asimov's Mysteries, folks.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Thanks in advance!!!

Glad to be of assistance, and sorry for the trouble from the mistakes.

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Ed Seiler
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:01 pm
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In article
<DELETEejseiler-68C6C9.17214224052008.DeleteThis@earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Edward Seiler <DELETEejseiler.DeleteThis@earthlink.netUPPERCASE> wrote:

> > Consider! (as the Good Doctor might put it). What follows are three
> > listings in the Bibliography that I don¹t think are right. (They¹re
> > all non-fiction.)
> >
> > ³Imagination in Orbit² is an article about ³rules of thumb for writing
> > good SF.² It is said to have been published in the March 1961 issue
> > of the Science Fiction Writers of America Bulletin. However, I don¹t
> > think that there *was* an SFWA formed until roughly 1964-1965 or
> > thereabouts. Anyone know what the correct citation might be?
>
> Gee, I'm not sure how that happened. The correct citation is the March
> 1961 issue of The Writer (magazine), pages 16-18 and 36.
>
> >
> > ³Other Worlds to Conquer² is cited as appearing in the May 1951 (!)
> > issue of the Science Fiction Writers of America Bulletin. Again,
> > anyone know what the correct citation might be?
>
> Whatever goof occurred apparently affected this citation too. Once again
> the correct source is The Writer (pages 148-151). What's interesting
> about this item is I believe it is the first nonfiction piece by Asimov
> to appear in a mass market publication (if you could consider The Writer
> mass market, that is).

Something else I should have mentioned is that "Imagination in Orbit" is
a rewrite of "Other Worlds to Conquer". It also incorporates some
elements of "Plausibility in Science Fiction", which appeared in the
October 1952 issue of Report To Writers. The latter provides tricks of
the trade for writing science fiction by pointing out flaws in
"Nightfall".

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Ed Seiler
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