"Alan Hogue" <ahogue DeleteThis @lawdot.berkeleydot.edu> wrote in message
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> >"Alan Hogue" <ahogue DeleteThis @lawdot.berkeleydot.edu> wrote in message
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> >>But there's always a
> >>temptation for people like Bayle, who seem to feel that they (as well as
> >>the electorate, apparently) are endowed as if from above with Truth to
> >>attack the media from this kind of angle. Incidentally, they have a lot
> >>in common with Bush, who is a born again christian (I doubt many people
> >>here really understand what that means), and therefore knows with
> >>unwavering certainty that he is right and god is on his side.
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> >I thought you were sharper than this.
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> Just the reaction I expected.
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> Alan H.
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Here's the kind of truth I'm talking about. A truth that was ignored by the
editor of the (formerly) most important newspaper in the US. A truth that
the reporter knew wasn't being reported correctly. It is a kind of bias I
have noticed repeatedly, and is now being revealed by those within the
institution itself..
For example:
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[Excerpt from David Margolick's piece in the new Vanity Fair]
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.andrewsullivan.com/" target="_blank">http://www.andrewsullivan.com/</a>
Worse, Raines would not let facts get in the way of a story he had ordered
up or a point he decided to make. "Howell wanted a thought inserted high in
one of my stories," says a metro reporter. "The only problem was, it wasn't
true. Mind you, this was on my beat, a beat he didn't really know about. I
said to the editor who was the message-bearer that it wasn't true, and it
didn't belong in the story, period. A while later he came back to me and
said, 'Well, you're right, but Howell wants it anyway.' It became clear that
the editor had not fully conveyed my arguments to Howell, because he was
afraid to. I said, 'F--- that -- I'll tell him myself.' And he literally
seized my arm and said, 'You don't want to do that.' And ultimately the
editor-intermediary and I compromised on a version of what Howell wanted
that was just vague enough not to mean much, but still close enough to a
falsehood to make my very uncomfortable."
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Now I do not know for sure that the reporter was right and Raines wrong.
Perhaps he was a bad reporter. But notice the similarity with this and the
claim that the CIA and thus Bush "knew" that the uranium claim was false
because a former Ambassador investigated and said it was. Just because this
Ambassador turns out to be right does it mean that he "knew" that it was a
forgery or that what the forgery claimed wasn't true. If you tell me that
England will win the next World Cup, and it happens, does that mean that you
knew it.
Decision making under uncertainty is very difficult. Take the example of
the operation to separate the conjoined twins. Because they both died, the
family is now claiming that they should have listened to the German doctors
who told them it shouldn't be done. In what sense did the doctors know that
it shouldn't be done? Leaving aside a claim I heard that there was no choice
because the pressure inside their skulls was becoming to great, all
operations involve risk. And risk can only be estimated accurately with a
large number of cases. But even then, these estimates are about populations
not individuals. Maybe some day we will know who was right. For now the
doctors statements are merely, as they are rightly called, medical opinions.
Unlike the New York Times case mentioned above, these are hard cases. But
the NYT can't even get the simple cases right and then acts like it knows
the truth about the hard cases. You say I act like the truth comes from God.
No. I know by working in intelligence and medical research and through a
lifetime of studying the attempts of philosophers to find it, that truth is
very hard to find. But we both agree that it often exists.
Do you have to be a right-wing Christian to know that the NYT and the BBC
are both so filled with bias as to make their reporting virtually useless?
Is this the kind of media you want?
"And ultimately the editor-intermediary and I compromised on a version of
what Howell wanted that was just vague enough not to mean much, but still
close enough to a falsehood to make my very uncomfortable."
The truth doesn't come from God but it damn sure doesn't come from the BBC
and the NYT.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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