Bag End question

Sean McFee wrote:
>
> I'm sure this is explained in the book but somehow I missed it. At
> the beginning Frodo sells Bag End to the Sackville-Bagginses as a cover
> for his leaving, purchasing a place in Buckland to replace it. At the end
> of the book he resumes living in Bag End until going over the Sea. Does
> Tolkien at any point mention Frodo repurchasing the place from Lobelia,
> or is it to be implied?

This is one of the nice bits about Frodo's homecoming. It also
accomplishes a reconciliation of the old feud with Lobelia.
Frodo escorted her out of prison. When she learned Lotho had
been killed, she refused to return to Bag End and gave it
back to Frodo. When she died, she made Frodo her heir.

Just a couple of paragraphs at the opening of "The Grey Havens."
But I like them a lot.

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I believe it is clearly stated in 'The Grey Havens' that Lobelia gave Bag
End back to Frodo and went to live with her own people, the Bracegirdles,
down in the Southfarthing, before she died the next year.

Tuil

"Sean McFee" <sean.RemoveThis@nexusSP.AMcarleton.ca> wrote in message
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> I'm sure this is explained in the book but somehow I missed it. At
> the beginning Frodo sells Bag End to the Sackville-Bagginses as a cover
> for his leaving, purchasing a place in Buckland to replace it. At the end
> of the book he resumes living in Bag End until going over the Sea. Does
> Tolkien at any point mention Frodo repurchasing the place from Lobelia,
> or is it to be implied?
>
> Thanks in advance. Not really a big deal, was just wondering.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Sean McFee
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In rec.arts.books.tolkien Tuil <j.copper DeleteThis @mchsi.com> wrote:
> I believe it is clearly stated in 'The Grey Havens' that Lobelia gave Bag
> End back to Frodo and went to live with her own people, the Bracegirdles,
> down in the Southfarthing, before she died the next year.

Thanks.

Regards,
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Sean McFee
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> In article <boonsn$h1j$1@driftwood.ccs.carleton.ca>,
> sean.TakeThisOut@nexusSP.AMcarleton.ca (Sean McFee) wrote:
>
> > I'm sure this is explained in the book but somehow I missed it.
At
> > the beginning Frodo sells Bag End to the Sackville-Bagginses as a cover
> > for his leaving, purchasing a place in Buckland to replace it. At the
end
> > of the book he resumes living in Bag End until going over the Sea. Does
> > Tolkien at any point mention Frodo repurchasing the place from Lobelia,
> > or is it to be implied?
>
> are there any other bagginses left to inherit from lobelia

Yes. There are plenty others in the Baggins family tree - I think that in
one of the Letters that JRRT discusses who became head of the family after
Bilbo and mentions it would have been Ponto II.

However, what is to say that Lobelia needed to leave it to a Baggins? She
could have easily left it to one of her own folk, one of the Bracegirdles.
I guess it all depended on her will.

However, in LotR it is mentioned that Lobelia gives Bag End back to Frodo -
no mention of him repurchasing it. Of course, "giving it back" could imply
selling it at a bargain basement price.

Neil Anderson
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"Glenn Holliday" <holliday.TakeThisOut@acm.org> wrote in message
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> This is one of the nice bits about Frodo's homecoming. It also
> accomplishes a reconciliation of the old feud with Lobelia.
> Frodo escorted her out of prison. When she learned Lotho had
> been killed, she refused to return to Bag End and gave it
> back to Frodo. When she died, she made Frodo her heir.

Even better: she left what money she had left (she must have had a great
deal of Southfarthing property that had belonged to Otho and Lotho) to be
distributed among those hobbits who had suffered in the "troubles."

On the Bagginses: If JRRT's family tree is complete, the family is, in fact,
on the point of extinction with the deaths, unwed, of Bilbo, Lotho and
Frodo. All the other branches appear to be dying out or going to females.
Frodo's only Baggins first cousin is Angelica. Bilbo's only Baggins first
cousins are Otho and the father of Poppy (or was it Peony?). So they're just
about all-in.

As upstart gentry, no doubt, they are not to be regretted by the more
aristocratic Tooks, Brandybucks, Boffins and Bolgers whom they had the
temerity to marry. But it is no surprise that another even more nouveau
riche family, the Gardeners, is coming up to supplant them.

The way of the world....

Tsar Parmathule
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