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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:12 pm
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Have just finally completed the Last Chronicle, and don't think I've
been so affected by a novel in a long time as I was by two things in
this:
The confirmation of what we all feared regarding Lily Dale and Johnny
Eames; and
The inevitable fate of Septimus Harding, who was indeed the finest of
men.
I'm afraid to say I cried like a baby.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 9:28 pm
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"Alan Hope" <not.alan.hope.RemoveThis@mail.com> wrote in message
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> Have just finally completed the Last Chronicle, and don't think I've
> been so affected by a novel in a long time as I was by two things in
> this:
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> The confirmation of what we all feared regarding Lily Dale and Johnny
> Eames; and
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> The inevitable fate of Septimus Harding, who was indeed the finest of
> men.
>
> I'm afraid to say I cried like a baby.
Hmm, well I must say I didn't cry over Lily Dale, in fact I was mightily
pissed off. At Trollope, for bringing poor Johnny Eames back only to kick
sand in his face again. Lily Dale can go to hell for all I care.
And anyway, what's the deal with women in Victorian novels who, once they've
given their heart, can never give it again? Thackeray and Dickens also
peddle that line of baloney (the dreadful Amelia in VF, for example). I'd
expect better from Trollope, who's usually pretty good with women
characters.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:05 pm
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Jess Askin wrote:
> "Alan Hope" <not.alan.hope.RemoveThis@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:bb9sg1hjmqhttq21l0bq0s0v998hc9fqoh@4ax.com...
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>>Have just finally completed the Last Chronicle, and don't think I've
>>been so affected by a novel in a long time as I was by two things in
>>this:
>>
>>The confirmation of what we all feared regarding Lily Dale and Johnny
>>Eames; and
>>
>>The inevitable fate of Septimus Harding, who was indeed the finest of
>>men.
>>
>>I'm afraid to say I cried like a baby.
>
>
> Hmm, well I must say I didn't cry over Lily Dale, in fact I was mightily
> pissed off. At Trollope, for bringing poor Johnny Eames back only to kick
> sand in his face again. Lily Dale can go to hell for all I care.
>
> And anyway, what's the deal with women in Victorian novels who, once they've
> given their heart, can never give it again? Thackeray and Dickens also
> peddle that line of baloney (the dreadful Amelia in VF, for example). I'd
> expect better from Trollope, who's usually pretty good with women
> characters.
It was, apparently a thoroughly accepted point of "wisdom" for a few
generations. A metaphor on virginity, I suppose.
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John W. Kennedy
"Compact is becoming contract,
Man only earns and pays."
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:55 am
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"John W. Kennedy" <jwkenne RemoveThis @attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Jess Askin wrote:
> > "Alan Hope" <not.alan.hope RemoveThis @mail.com> wrote in message
> > news:bb9sg1hjmqhttq21l0bq0s0v998hc9fqoh@4ax.com...
> >
> >>Have just finally completed the Last Chronicle, and don't think I've
> >>been so affected by a novel in a long time as I was by two things in
> >>this:
> >>
> >>The confirmation of what we all feared regarding Lily Dale and Johnny
> >>Eames; and
> >>
> >>The inevitable fate of Septimus Harding, who was indeed the finest of
> >>men.
> >>
> >>I'm afraid to say I cried like a baby.
> >
> >
> > Hmm, well I must say I didn't cry over Lily Dale, in fact I was mightily
> > pissed off. At Trollope, for bringing poor Johnny Eames back only to
kick
> > sand in his face again. Lily Dale can go to hell for all I care.
> >
> > And anyway, what's the deal with women in Victorian novels who, once
they've
> > given their heart, can never give it again? Thackeray and Dickens also
> > peddle that line of baloney (the dreadful Amelia in VF, for example).
I'd
> > expect better from Trollope, who's usually pretty good with women
> > characters.
>
> It was, apparently a thoroughly accepted point of "wisdom" for a few
> generations. A metaphor on virginity, I suppose.
Accepted by characters in books, sure. But did people really act that way in
real life? "I'm terribly sorry, Cedric, but my heart was broken by a cad who
jilted me in my youth and therefore I have to spend the rest of my life as
an old maid, which by the way is a fate worse than death in the Victorian
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:59 pm
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> >"Alan Hope" <not.alan.hope RemoveThis @mail.com> wrote in message
> Oh yes. As luck would have it I picked up -- on the change as good as
> rest principle -- Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk (forgive spelling)
> just after. I don't need to labour the point. Not only not a character
> you'd recall, but a book that only escapes the flight to the bin by a
> miracle. What a load of bollocks.
Terrific performance by Helena Bonham-Carter in the movie, though. She must
have had something to work with from the book (which I haven't read)?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:14 am
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Jess Askin goes:
>> >"Alan Hope" <not.alan.hope RemoveThis @mail.com> wrote in message
>> Oh yes. As luck would have it I picked up -- on the change as good as
>> rest principle -- Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk (forgive spelling)
>> just after. I don't need to labour the point. Not only not a character
>> you'd recall, but a book that only escapes the flight to the bin by a
>> miracle. What a load of bollocks.
>Terrific performance by Helena Bonham-Carter in the movie, though. She must
>have had something to work with from the book (which I haven't read)?
I dunno. I didn't see the film. We should really discuss this further.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:14 am
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"Alan Hope" <not.alan.hope DeleteThis @mail.com> wrote in message
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> Jess Askin goes:
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> >> >"Alan Hope" <not.alan.hope DeleteThis @mail.com> wrote in message
>
> >> Oh yes. As luck would have it I picked up -- on the change as good as
> >> rest principle -- Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk (forgive spelling)
> >> just after. I don't need to labour the point. Not only not a character
> >> you'd recall, but a book that only escapes the flight to the bin by a
> >> miracle. What a load of bollocks.
>
> >Terrific performance by Helena Bonham-Carter in the movie, though. She
must
> >have had something to work with from the book (which I haven't read)?
>
> I dunno. I didn't see the film. We should really discuss this further.
Wouldn't that be like the blind leading the deaf?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:52 pm
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Jess Askin goes:
>"Alan Hope" <not.alan.hope.DeleteThis@mail.com> wrote in message
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>> Jess Askin goes:
>> >> >"Alan Hope" <not.alan.hope.DeleteThis@mail.com> wrote in message
>> >> Oh yes. As luck would have it I picked up -- on the change as good as
>> >> rest principle -- Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk (forgive spelling)
>> >> just after. I don't need to labour the point. Not only not a character
>> >> you'd recall, but a book that only escapes the flight to the bin by a
>> >> miracle. What a load of bollocks.
>> >Terrific performance by Helena Bonham-Carter in the movie, though. She
>must
>> >have had something to work with from the book (which I haven't read)?
>> I dunno. I didn't see the film. We should really discuss this further.
>Wouldn't that be like the blind leading the deaf?
Nearly half past eight.
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