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Michael Frayn

THE HUMAN TOUCH

Our part in the creation of a universe

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Book review by Anthony Campbell. The review is licensed under a
Creative Commons License.
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Michael Frayn is best known as a novelist and playwright but
also has a training in philosophy, and this is a book of
philosophy - Frayn's philosophy. Its form is a little unusual,
for in part it takes the form of a dialogue between Frayn
himself and "you", who is less the reader than Frayn's alter ego
who poses questions or objections to which Frayn responds. It
has five main parts, each containing several sections or
chapters. These are certainly wide-ranging.

The first part, Principles, discusses the laws of nature and the
nature of laws, causation, the structure of space and time, and
the philosophy of arithmetic. Part 2, Action, is about intention
and purpose and the act of deciding. In Part 3, Stories, Frayn's
experience as novelist and playwright comes to the fore as he
looks at fiction and religion (which he seems to regard in much
the same light). Literature, of course, depends on language, and
Part 4 is entitled Words: Frayn considers grammar, citing
Chomsky a good deal though not, to my disappointment, Terrence
Deacon. Part 5, Homewards, touches on consciousness and the
nature of the self.

This is a long book; almost certainly too long. Reading it, I
found my interest flagging fairly often. To include Russian
poems in the original surely smacks of self-indulgence, and in
general one gets the impression that Frayn has simply thrown in
whatever happens to interest him.

On the other hand, Frayn has an acute intelligence and is very
well read in many areas, especially physics. He is therefore an
agreeable companion for much of the time and my attention was
frequently caught by an idea or an insight; there are also
plenty of jokes. So although I could not read the book
continuously I did come back to it at intervals until I reached
the end.

But I wonder for whom it was written. Not for professional
philosophers; those who have noticed it have generally been
dismissive. Not too many people with a passing interest in
philosophy will plough through it either.

Reading it, I was reminded of a book by another
novelist-philosopher, Iris Murdoch. Her Metaphysics as a Guide
to Morals, which appeared in 1992, was greeted, according to
Peter Conradi, "with a certain baffled respect". My feeling
about Frayn's book is rather similar, although it has to be
said that Frayn is much the more readable of the two; there are
no jokes in Murdoch's book. But both authors, I think, wrote
primarily for themselves - not that I have anything against
that; I've generally done the same. But it tends not to sell.

Not only is this a long book, but it is made even longer by the
extensive (but often interesting) notes at the back. These
almost constitute a book in themselves (there are even footnotes
to the notes!). Both in the main text and in the notes Frayn is
continually qualifying his own ideas as well as challenging
those of others.

In essence, this is one very intelligent and well-informed man's
account of the situation that many non-religious intellectuals
find themselves in at the beginning of the twenty-first century.
The world appears to have no meaning apart from any we may give
it ourselves. And so Frayn concludes his book with a paradox.
"The world has no form or substance without you and me to
provide them, and you and I have no form or substance without
the world to provide them in its turn." But eventually the last
man on earth will finally close his eyes, and what will happen
then? The universe will go on exactly as before. "The paradox
remains. We have not even begun to resolve it."

We need thinkers like Frayn, not because they provide answers,
but because they prompt us to reflect on the questions.

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%T The Human Touch
%S Our part in the creation of a universe
%A Michael Frayn
%I faber and faber
%C London
%D 2006
%G ISBN 0-57123217-5
%P 505pp
%K philosophy

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Anthony Campbell <ac RemoveThis @acampbell.org.uk> wrote:
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 09:38:27 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
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>Anthony Campbell <ac.DeleteThis@acampbell.org.uk> wrote:
>> Microsoft-free zone - Using Linux Gnu-Debian
>
>Does Linux force you to use 8-bit characters and not say what the encoding
>is? On my newsreader you have lines and lines of alternating i-circumflex
>and A-superscript-circle.
>

Interesting. On my reader (Agent running on Windows XP) I get
a-circumflex, closing double quote, question mark.

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Barry wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 09:38:27 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
> <bogus.RemoveThis@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Anthony Campbell <ac.RemoveThis@acampbell.org.uk> wrote:
>>> Microsoft-free zone - Using Linux Gnu-Debian
>> Does Linux force you to use 8-bit characters and not say what the encoding
>> is? On my newsreader you have lines and lines of alternating i-circumflex
>> and A-superscript-circle.
>>
>
> Interesting. On my reader (Agent running on Windows XP) I get
> a-circumflex, closing double quote, question mark.
>

And on XP, running Thunderbird, I just see a-circumflex, closing double
quote.
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 07:20:01 -0400, Paul Ilechko
<pilechko.RemoveThis@patmedia.net> wrote:

>Barry wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 May 2007 09:38:27 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
>> <bogus.RemoveThis@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Anthony Campbell <ac.RemoveThis@acampbell.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> Microsoft-free zone - Using Linux Gnu-Debian
>>> Does Linux force you to use 8-bit characters and not say what the encoding
>>> is? On my newsreader you have lines and lines of alternating i-circumflex
>>> and A-superscript-circle.
>>>
>>
>> Interesting. On my reader (Agent running on Windows XP) I get
>> a-circumflex, closing double quote, question mark.
>>
>
>And on XP, running Thunderbird, I just see a-circumflex, closing double
>quote.

On Agent, the goofy stuff is not word-wrapped and disappears off into
the East, so the text of the review starts below it.

First paragraph:

Michael Frayn is best known as a novelist and playwright but
also has a training in philosophy, and this is a book of
philosophy - Frayn's philosophy. Its form is a little unusual,
for in part it takes the form of a dialogue between Frayn
himself and "you", who is less the reader than Frayn's alter ego
who poses questions or objections to which Frayn responds. It
has five main parts, each containing several sections or
chapters. These are certainly wide-ranging.

Don
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On 2007-05-24, Don Tuite <don_tuite.RemoveThis@MAILNOTSAUSAGEhotlinks.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 May 2007 07:20:01 -0400, Paul Ilechko
><pilechko.RemoveThis@patmedia.net> wrote:
>
>>Barry wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 May 2007 09:38:27 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
>>> <bogus.RemoveThis@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anthony Campbell <ac.RemoveThis@acampbell.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Microsoft-free zone - Using Linux Gnu-Debian
>>>> Does Linux force you to use 8-bit characters and not say what the encoding
>>>> is? On my newsreader you have lines and lines of alternating i-circumflex
>>>> and A-superscript-circle.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting. On my reader (Agent running on Windows XP) I get
>>> a-circumflex, closing double quote, question mark.
>>>
>>
>>And on XP, running Thunderbird, I just see a-circumflex, closing double
>>quote.
>
> On Agent, the goofy stuff is not word-wrapped and disappears off into
> the East, so the text of the review starts below it.
>
> First paragraph:
>
> Michael Frayn is best known as a novelist and playwright but
> also has a training in philosophy, and this is a book of
> philosophy - Frayn's philosophy. Its form is a little unusual,
> for in part it takes the form of a dialogue between Frayn
> himself and "you", who is less the reader than Frayn's alter ego
> who poses questions or objections to which Frayn responds. It
> has five main parts, each containing several sections or
> chapters. These are certainly wide-ranging.
>
> Don

Very odd. I had no idea that this problem would occur; everything looks
as it should with my newsreader (slrn) and the editor I write with
(vim). No one has ever complained before. I suppose you are all being
crippled by Mr Gates's stuff Smile.

Thankd for letting me know. I'll look into it and fix for future
reference.


Anthony

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On 2007-05-25, Anthony Campbell <ac RemoveThis @acampbell.org.uk> wrote:
> Don
>
> Very odd. I had no idea that this problem would occur; everything looks
> as it should with my newsreader (slrn) and the editor I write with
> (vim). No one has ever complained before. I suppose you are all being
> crippled by Mr Gates's stuff Smile.
>
> Thanks for letting me know. I'll look into it and fix for future
> reference.
>
>
Is this better?



An HTML version of this review is available at:
http://www.acampbell.org.uk/bookreviews/

Over 300 other reviews of books on acupuncture, biography, biology,
brain and mind, cosmology, cycling, death and dying, evolution, fiction,
history, history of science, medicine, parapsychology, palaeontology,
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science, and travel may be found at this site.
------------------------------------------------------------------

Michael Frayn

THE HUMAN TOUCH

Our part in the creation of a universe
__________________________________________________________________

Book review by Anthony Campbell. The review is licensed under a
[6]Creative Commons License.
__________________________________________________________________

Michael Frayn is best known as a novelist and playwright but also has a
training in philosophy, and this is a book of philosophy - Frayn's
philosophy. Its form is a little unusual, for in part it takes the form
of a dialogue between Frayn himself and "you", who is less the reader
than Frayn's alter ego who poses questions or objections to which Frayn
responds. It has five main parts, each containing several sections or
chapters. These are certainly wide-ranging.

The first part, Principles, discusses the laws of nature and the nature
of laws, causation, the structure of space and time, and the philosophy
of arithmetic. Part 2, Action, is about intention and purpose and the
act of deciding. In Part 3, Stories, Frayn's experience as novelist and
playwright comes to the fore as he looks at fiction and religion (which
he seems to regard in much the same light). Literature, of course,
depends on language, and Part 4 is entitled Words: Frayn considers
grammar, citing Chomsky a good deal though not, to my disappointment,
Terrence Deacon. Part 5, Homewards, touches on consciousness and the
nature of the self.

This is a long book; almost certainly too long. Reading it, I found my
interest flagging fairly often. To include Russian poems in the
original surely smacks of self-indulgence, and in general one gets the
impression that Frayn has simply thrown in whatever happens to interest
him.

On the other hand, Frayn has an acute intelligence and is very well
read in many areas, especially physics. He is therefore an agreeable
companion for much of the time and my attention was frequently caught
by an idea or an insight; there are also plenty of jokes. So although I
could not read the book continuously I did come back to it at intervals
until I reached the end.

But I wonder for whom it was written. Not for professional
philosophers; those who have noticed it have generally been dismissive.
Not too many people with a passing interest in philosophy will plough
through it either.

Reading it, I was reminded of a book by another novelist-philosopher,
Iris Murdoch. Her Metaphysics as a Guide to Morals, which appeared in
1992, was greeted, according to Peter Conradi, "with a certain baffled
respect". My feeling about Frayn's book is rather similar, although it
has to be said that Frayn is much the more readable of the two; there
are no jokes in Murdoch's book. But both authors, I think, wrote
primarily for themselves - not that I have anything against that; I've
generally done the same. But it tends not to sell.

Not only is this a long book, but it is made even longer by the
extensive (but often interesting) notes at the back. These almost
constitute a book in themselves (there are even footnotes to the
notes!). Both in the main text and in the notes Frayn is continually
qualifying his own ideas as well as challenging those of others.

In essence, this is one very intelligent and well-informed man's
account of the situation that many non-religious intellectuals find
themselves in at the beginning of the twenty-first century. The world
appears to have no meaning apart from any we may give it ourselves. And
so Frayn concludes his book with a paradox. "The world has no form or
substance without you and me to provide them, and you and I have no
form or substance without the world to provide them in its turn." But
eventually the last man on earth will finally close his eyes, and what
will happen then? The universe will go on exactly as before. "The
paradox remains. We have not even begun to resolve it."

We need thinkers like Frayn, not because they provide answers, but
because they prompt us to reflect on the questions.
__________________________________________________________________

%T The Human Touch
%S Our part in the creation of a universe
%A Michael Frayn
%I faber and faber
%C London
%D 2006
%G ISBN 0-57123217-5
%P 505pp
%K philosophy

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:38 am
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>> Very odd. I had no idea that this problem would occur; everything looks
>> as it should with my newsreader (slrn) and the editor I write with
>> (vim). No one has ever complained before. I suppose you are all being
>> crippled by Mr Gates's stuff Smile.
>>
>> Thanks for letting me know. I'll look into it and fix for future
>> reference.
> Is this better?
> __________________________________________________________________

Yes. (I'm using MT-NewsWatcher for MacOS 9, which is not Gatesware).

There's still nothing in the header to say what your character encoding
is, but as that was pure ASCII it didn't matter.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:54 am
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On 2007-05-25, Jack Campin - bogus address <bogus.DeleteThis@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Very odd. I had no idea that this problem would occur; everything looks
>>> as it should with my newsreader (slrn) and the editor I write with
>>> (vim). No one has ever complained before. I suppose you are all being
>>> crippled by Mr Gates's stuff Smile.
>>>
>>> Thanks for letting me know. I'll look into it and fix for future
>>> reference.
>> Is this better?
>> __________________________________________________________________
>
> Yes. (I'm using MT-NewsWatcher for MacOS 9, which is not Gatesware).
>

Congratulations.

> There's still nothing in the header to say what your character encoding
> is, but as that was pure ASCII it didn't matter.
>

I use en_GB.UTF8 but slrn does not indicate that in the header. As you say,
it is ASCII.

In more detail, the reviews are originally in html format but for the NG
I convert them to ASCII. Hitherto I did this with w3m but this seems to
be causing the problem people are complaining about so I've changed to
lynx.

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