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Since: Jul 30, 2004 Posts: 87
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:13 am
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Just a reminder for those with access to BBC4 that the 2004 Man Booker
Prize coverage starts at 9:30pm tomorrow (Tuesday) with 'Bookered Out':
a show following five members of the public who were given three weeks
to read the twenty-two long-listed titles. This is followed by 'Man
Booker Prize 2004: Live' at 10pm from the Royal Horticultural Hall in
London, which will include the announcement of the winner.
Although David Mitchell is the dead cert to take this one away, my silly
money is on Colm Tóibín's The Master. If only because the Rt Honorable
chairman this year is Chris Smith, a ministerial queen with a weakness
for Victorian literature and upper-class fag hags. Tóibín satisfies him
on both counts by chronicling the Victorian times of Henry James,
throughout which his good friend Lady Wolseley enters each scene
'dressed like thunder and lightning', advising him how to dress and
behave accordingly.
Sarah Hall's The Electric Michelangelo is the work of a show-stopping
genius so she probably /won't/ get it, unless the Booker panel goes all
Nobel on us and gives it to a woman because she hasn't had it for so
long. Oo-er.
(Yes, I am being sarcastic about the recent Guardian coverage which
implied that.)
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:47 pm
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"Subtext Whore" <lee.DeleteThis@subtextwhore.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Just a reminder for those with access to BBC4 that the 2004 Man Booker
> Prize coverage starts at 9:30pm tomorrow (Tuesday) with 'Bookered Out':
> a show following five members of the public who were given three weeks
> to read the twenty-two long-listed titles. This is followed by 'Man
> Booker Prize 2004: Live' at 10pm from the Royal Horticultural Hall in
> London, which will include the announcement of the winner.
>
> Although David Mitchell is the dead cert to take this one away, my silly
> money is on Colm Tóibín's The Master. If only because the Rt Honorable
> chairman this year is Chris Smith, a ministerial queen with a weakness
> for Victorian literature and upper-class fag hags. Tóibín satisfies him
> on both counts by chronicling the Victorian times of Henry James,
> throughout which his good friend Lady Wolseley enters each scene
> 'dressed like thunder and lightning', advising him how to dress and
> behave accordingly.
>
> Sarah Hall's The Electric Michelangelo is the work of a show-stopping
> genius so she probably /won't/ get it, unless the Booker panel goes all
> Nobel on us and gives it to a woman because she hasn't had it for so
> long. Oo-er.
>
> (Yes, I am being sarcastic about the recent Guardian coverage which
> implied that.)
>
I've asked for the Booker shortlist books for my birthday next month as
it'll be ages till the winner turns up in a charity shop. I really hope they
don't make a bollock of it this year - have you read Vernon God Little? it
wasn't that bad but hardly show stopping stuff. No big names in there so no
"lifetime achievement awards" . Last year the only other shortlisted books
to raise any interest on the messageboards was Astonishing Splashes of
Colour and The curious incident of the dog in the nighttime - the latter
winning a deserved Whitbread the former being astonishingly bad.
Its the justifications that'll be the most interesting - especially from
Rowan Pelling editor of the Erotic Review. Still it'll keep the Book boards
busy till next year, though I still doubt any winner will match the awesome
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:39 pm
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Subtext Whore <lee.DeleteThis@subtextwhore.co.uk> wrote in message news:<slrncn8cf8.15s.lee.DeleteThis@subtextwhore.co.uk>...
> Just a reminder for those with access to BBC4 that the 2004 Man Booker
> Prize coverage starts at 9:30pm tomorrow (Tuesday) with 'Bookered Out':
> a show following five members of the public who were given three weeks
> to read the twenty-two long-listed titles. This is followed by 'Man
> Booker Prize 2004: Live' at 10pm from the Royal Horticultural Hall in
> London, which will include the announcement of the winner.
Interesting choice of venue. You think they'll quote Dorothy Parker?
During a speech to the American Horticultural Society, she was
challenged to use the word "horticulture" in a sentence and
promptly replied, "You can lead a horticulture, but you cannot
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:13 pm
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One may as well begin with notme's letter to rec.arts.books:
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[..]
> I've asked for the Booker shortlist books for my birthday next month
> as it'll be ages till the winner turns up in a charity shop.
You really should support your library. They're all likely to be in
there. And if recent news reports are anything to go by, your local
library needs you. [Cue Lord Kitchener poster.]
> I really
> hope they don't make a bollock of it this year - have you read Vernon
> God Little?
No. The synopsis doesn't interest me so I left it on the shelf. Same
applies to a couple of titles on this year's Booker Shortlist. I've only
read those (so far) which interest me. The Electric Michelangelo
because of the Hardy/Lawrence overtones attributed to Sarah Hall's
writing (quite accurate too). And Colm Tóibín's The Master because its
subject matter relates to an author I've been acquainting myself with
this year (Henry James). Both are profound enough to take the prize,
despite their faults. In no way are these potboilers, nor are they
pretentious crap because a bunch of BBC News viewers "haven't heard of
these authors". They've all won awards before, some of them even have
TV adaptations under their belts, so they were hardly plucked from
obscurity just to piss people off.
[..]
> Its the justifications that'll be the most interesting - especially
> from Rowan Pelling editor of the Erotic Review. Still it'll keep the
> Book boards busy till next year, though I still doubt any winner will
> match the awesome Sacred Hunger by Barry Unsworth - 1992 co winner.
Depends how and what you're comparing. I'm not intelligent enough to
rank unique works of art. I wouldn't know where to start.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:33 pm
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Subtext Whore wrote:
> The BBC2/BBC4 coverage wasn't all bad though. The film shorts
> introducing the books /and/ the authors were great (I've just
> ordered Cloud Atlas on the back of Mitchell's video synopsis)
> and T=F3ib=EDn's agent made me laugh by plugging his previous book
> just for the hell of it.
Almost makes me regret the fact I stopped watching television about
a year ago.
> And why are the BBC's late night critics getting wound up by
> the idea that "people will say Hollinghurst won because the
> chairman is gay"? AFAIK, at least three nominees are gay, so
> there was a 50% chance of a gay winner anyway.
I read part of _The Swimming Pool Library_ years ago. His sexual
orientation had nothing to do with my interest in the novel.
I think I might have even mentioned the book in RAB. Let me check...
"Let me second this recommendation. Alan Hollinghurst is a splendid
writer, crisp, erudite and with a wonderful mastery of architectural
and historical detail. He is currently deputy editor of the Times
Literary Supplement. Judging by the location of my bookmark, I only
got halfway through the novel, his first. How will Lord Nantwich's
biography turn out? And how shall the murder mystery evolve?"
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://tinyurl.com/3j2rv" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/3j2rv</a>
Yup, I did mention it, back in November 1992. Gosh, how long
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:04 pm
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One may as well begin with Subtext's letter to rec.arts.books:
[..]
> And Colm Tóibín's The Master because its
> subject matter relates to an author I've been acquainting myself with
> this year (Henry James). Both are profound enough to take the prize,
[.snip.]
> In no way are these potboilers, nor are they
> pretentious crap because a bunch of BBC News viewers "haven't heard of
> these authors".
Aah, at least somebody else (perusing the BBC pages) noticed the outing
of Henry James:
"I'm an aspiring writer myself, you understand, and I think that the
prize should try to be more like the Nobel prize, and reward genuinely
innovative books as opposed to ones which attempt to oust Henry James
as a homosexual."
<grin> Extracts taken from this BBC News/talking point:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3755936.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3755936.stm</a>
It seems a lot of people want some kind of 'Lit Idol' if this comment is
anything to go by: "The Booker prize means nothing to the general
public, a prize should go to an author based on the number of books
sold, it should the public's choice, not some coven of so called
experts."
Maybe we should draft in Simon Cowell and co. and *really* dumb
literature down.
[..]
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:04 pm
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Subtext Whore wrote:
> It seems a lot of people want some kind of 'Lit Idol' if this comment is
> anything to go by: "The Booker prize means nothing to the general
> public, a prize should go to an author based on the number of books
> sold, it should the public's choice, not some coven of so called
> experts."
Yes, how on earth are you going to know which book sold the most copies
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:49 pm
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"Subtext Whore" <lee RemoveThis @subtextwhore.co.uk> wrote in message
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> One may as well begin with notme's letter to rec.arts.books:
> >
> [..]
> > I've asked for the Booker shortlist books for my birthday next month
> > as it'll be ages till the winner turns up in a charity shop.
>
> You really should support your library. They're all likely to be in
> there. And if recent news reports are anything to go by, your local
> library needs you. [Cue Lord Kitchener poster.]
>
> > I really
> > hope they don't make a bollock of it this year - have you read Vernon
> > God Little?
>
> No. The synopsis doesn't interest me so I left it on the shelf. Same
> applies to a couple of titles on this year's Booker Shortlist. I've only
> read those (so far) which interest me. The Electric Michelangelo
> because of the Hardy/Lawrence overtones attributed to Sarah Hall's
> writing (quite accurate too). And Colm Tóibín's The Master because its
> subject matter relates to an author I've been acquainting myself with
> this year (Henry James). Both are profound enough to take the prize,
> despite their faults. In no way are these potboilers, nor are they
> pretentious crap because a bunch of BBC News viewers "haven't heard of
> these authors". They've all won awards before, some of them even have
> TV adaptations under their belts, so they were hardly plucked from
> obscurity just to piss people off.
>
VGL isn't that good - I think - and it is my opinion - that it reflects more
the anti US political opinion of the judges. Columbine meets Michael Moore .
> [..]
> > Its the justifications that'll be the most interesting - especially
> > from Rowan Pelling editor of the Erotic Review. Still it'll keep the
> > Book boards busy till next year, though I still doubt any winner will
> > match the awesome Sacred Hunger by Barry Unsworth - 1992 co winner.
>
> Depends how and what you're comparing. I'm not intelligent enough to
> rank unique works of art. I wouldn't know where to start.
>
No two Bookers can really be compared as they have different judges each
year - out of the 25 I've read Sacred Hunger was the best - in my opinion .
There is a lively thread where I have contributed right now on the BBc
board.Rowan Pelling had a baby in April so how she managed to read the
longlist escapes me.
> --
> La Putain du Subtext
> "No man can be always a cynic and live." - Thomas Hardy
> ---------------------------------------------------------
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:49 pm
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One may as well begin with notme's letter to rec.arts.books:
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> "Subtext Whore" <lee RemoveThis @subtextwhore.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:slrncnabo2.2rg.lee@subtextwhore.co.uk...
[..]
>> Depends how and what you're comparing. I'm not intelligent enough to
>> rank unique works of art. I wouldn't know where to start.
>
> No two Bookers can really be compared
Sure, but I was talking about books in general, rather than the quality
of judge's decisions. The inclusion of Chris Smith is /interesting/
because based on what I know about his reading tastes (very Victorian),
one book really should top his list. If he's as persuasive as I hope
(unlikely), I'm going to win hard cash. A very small amount of hard
cash, but hard cash all the same.
> as they have different judges
> each year - out of the 25 I've read Sacred Hunger was the best - in my
> opinion . There is a lively thread where I have contributed right now
> on the BBc board.Rowan Pelling had a baby in April so how she managed
> to read the longlist escapes me.
Maybe the nanny read them to her.
[..]
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:49 pm
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notme wrote:
> "Subtext Whore" <lee DeleteThis @subtextwhore.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:slrncnabo2.2rg.lee@subtextwhore.co.uk...
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>>One may as well begin with notme's letter to rec.arts.books:
>>
>>[..]
>>
>>>I've asked for the Booker shortlist books for my birthday next month
>>>as it'll be ages till the winner turns up in a charity shop.
>>
>>You really should support your library. They're all likely to be in
>>there. And if recent news reports are anything to go by, your local
>>library needs you. [Cue Lord Kitchener poster.]
>>
>>
>>>I really
>>>hope they don't make a bollock of it this year - have you read Vernon
>>>God Little?
>>
>>No. The synopsis doesn't interest me so I left it on the shelf. Same
>>applies to a couple of titles on this year's Booker Shortlist. I've only
>>read those (so far) which interest me. The Electric Michelangelo
>>because of the Hardy/Lawrence overtones attributed to Sarah Hall's
>>writing (quite accurate too). And Colm Tóibín's The Master because its
>>subject matter relates to an author I've been acquainting myself with
>>this year (Henry James). Both are profound enough to take the prize,
>>despite their faults. In no way are these potboilers, nor are they
>>pretentious crap because a bunch of BBC News viewers "haven't heard of
>>these authors". They've all won awards before, some of them even have
>>TV adaptations under their belts, so they were hardly plucked from
>>obscurity just to piss people off.
>>
>
>
> VGL isn't that good - I think - and it is my opinion - that it reflects more
> the anti US political opinion of the judges. Columbine meets Michael Moore .
I thought it was quite good, certainly amusing, but not even close to
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:53 pm
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"Subtext Whore" <lee RemoveThis @subtextwhore.co.uk> wrote in message
news:slrncnalpg.8k.lee@subtextwhore.co.uk...
> One may as well begin with Subtext's letter to rec.arts.books:
> [..]
> > And Colm Tóibín's The Master because its
> > subject matter relates to an author I've been acquainting myself with
> > this year (Henry James). Both are profound enough to take the prize,
> [.snip.]
> > In no way are these potboilers, nor are they
> > pretentious crap because a bunch of BBC News viewers "haven't heard of
> > these authors".
>
> Aah, at least somebody else (perusing the BBC pages) noticed the outing
> of Henry James:
>
> "I'm an aspiring writer myself, you understand, and I think that the
> prize should try to be more like the Nobel prize, and reward genuinely
> innovative books as opposed to ones which attempt to oust Henry James
> as a homosexual."
>
> <grin> Extracts taken from this BBC News/talking point:
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3755936.stm</font" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3755936.stm</font</a>>
>
> It seems a lot of people want some kind of 'Lit Idol' if this comment is
> anything to go by: "The Booker prize means nothing to the general
> public, a prize should go to an author based on the number of books
> sold, it should the public's choice, not some coven of so called
> experts."
>
> Maybe we should draft in Simon Cowell and co. and *really* dumb
> literature down.
>
Well it would be the Beckham Autobiography or Jordans pop up book. Its
reverse snobbery - there are plenty of outlets for more popularist books,
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:53 pm
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One may as well begin with notme's letter to rec.arts.books:
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> "Subtext Whore" <lee DeleteThis @subtextwhore.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:slrncnalpg.8k.lee@subtextwhore.co.uk...
[..]
>> It seems a lot of people want some kind of 'Lit Idol' if this comment is
>> anything to go by: "The Booker prize means nothing to the general
>> public, a prize should go to an author based on the number of books
>> sold, it should the public's choice, not some coven of so called
>> experts."
>>
>> Maybe we should draft in Simon Cowell and co. and *really* dumb
>> literature down.
>>
> Well it would be the Beckham Autobiography or Jordans pop up book. Its
> reverse snobbery - there are plenty of outlets for more popularist books,
> plenty of TV coverage like Richard and Judys book club .
R&J's book club offers quite a balanced selection. It's just not
limited to novels (like the Man Booker).
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:01 am
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One may as well begin with Marko's letter to rec.arts.books:
> Subtext Whore <lee DeleteThis @subtextwhore.co.uk> wrote in message news:<slrncn8cf8.15s.lee DeleteThis @subtextwhore.co.uk>...
>> Just a reminder for those with access to BBC4 that the 2004 Man
>> Booker Prize coverage starts at 9:30pm tomorrow (Tuesday) with
>> 'Bookered Out': a show following five members of the public who were
>> given three weeks to read the twenty-two long-listed titles. This is
>> followed by 'Man Booker Prize 2004: Live' at 10pm from the Royal
>> Horticultural Hall in London, which will include the announcement of
>> the winner.
>
> Interesting choice of venue. You think they'll quote Dorothy Parker?
> During a speech to the American Horticultural Society, she was
> challenged to use the word "horticulture" in a sentence and promptly
> replied, "You can lead a horticulture, but you cannot make her think."
LOL! No such luck unfortunately. All very dull, full of political
figures preferring the book dealing with apartheid, full of television
people repeating the line, "it's such a fantastic shortlist this year",
and the event anti-climaxed with an *incredibly* apathetic Alan
Hollinghurst going to collect his prize like he was going to the
headmaster's office for being a naughty boy.
The BBC2/BBC4 coverage wasn't all bad though. The film shorts
introducing the books /and/ the authors were great (I've just ordered
Cloud Atlas on the back of Mitchell's video synopsis) and Tóibín's agent
made me laugh by plugging his previous book just for the hell of it.
And why are the BBC's late night critics getting wound up by the idea
that "people will say Hollinghurst won because the chairman is gay"?
AFAIK, at least three nominees are gay, so there was a 50% chance of a
gay winner anyway.
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"No man can be always a cynic and live." - Thomas Hardy
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"Subtext Whore" <lee.DeleteThis@subtextwhore.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Just a reminder for those with access to BBC4 that the 2004 Man Booker
> Prize coverage starts at 9:30pm tomorrow (Tuesday) with 'Bookered Out':
> a show following five members of the public who were given three weeks
> to read the twenty-two long-listed titles. This is followed by 'Man
> Booker Prize 2004: Live' at 10pm from the Royal Horticultural Hall in
> London, which will include the announcement of the winner.
>
> Although David Mitchell is the dead cert to take this one away, my silly
> money is on Colm Tóibín's The Master. If only because the Rt Honorable
> chairman this year is Chris Smith, a ministerial queen with a weakness
> for Victorian literature and upper-class fag hags. Tóibín satisfies him
> on both counts by chronicling the Victorian times of Henry James,
> throughout which his good friend Lady Wolseley enters each scene
> 'dressed like thunder and lightning', advising him how to dress and
> behave accordingly.
>
> Sarah Hall's The Electric Michelangelo is the work of a show-stopping
> genius so she probably /won't/ get it, unless the Booker panel goes all
> Nobel on us and gives it to a woman because she hasn't had it for so
> long. Oo-er.
>
> (Yes, I am being sarcastic about the recent Guardian coverage which
> implied that.)
>
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"Subtext Whore" <lee.RemoveThis@subtextwhore.co.uk> wrote in message
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> One may as well begin with Marko's letter to rec.arts.books:
> > Subtext Whore <lee.RemoveThis@subtextwhore.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<slrncn8cf8.15s.lee.RemoveThis@subtextwhore.co.uk>...
> >> Just a reminder for those with access to BBC4 that the 2004 Man
> >> Booker Prize coverage starts at 9:30pm tomorrow (Tuesday) with
> >> 'Bookered Out': a show following five members of the public who were
> >> given three weeks to read the twenty-two long-listed titles. This is
> >> followed by 'Man Booker Prize 2004: Live' at 10pm from the Royal
> >> Horticultural Hall in London, which will include the announcement of
> >> the winner.
> >
> > Interesting choice of venue. You think they'll quote Dorothy Parker?
> > During a speech to the American Horticultural Society, she was
> > challenged to use the word "horticulture" in a sentence and promptly
> > replied, "You can lead a horticulture, but you cannot make her think."
>
> LOL! No such luck unfortunately. All very dull, full of political
> figures preferring the book dealing with apartheid, full of television
> people repeating the line, "it's such a fantastic shortlist this year",
> and the event anti-climaxed with an *incredibly* apathetic Alan
> Hollinghurst going to collect his prize like he was going to the
> headmaster's office for being a naughty boy.
>
> The BBC2/BBC4 coverage wasn't all bad though. The film shorts
> introducing the books /and/ the authors were great (I've just ordered
> Cloud Atlas on the back of Mitchell's video synopsis) and Tóibín's agent
> made me laugh by plugging his previous book just for the hell of it.
>
> And why are the BBC's late night critics getting wound up by the idea
> that "people will say Hollinghurst won because the chairman is gay"?
> AFAIK, at least three nominees are gay, so there was a 50% chance of a
> gay winner anyway.
>
> --
I thought Cloud Atlas was high and tight but it just goes to show. Whitbread
prize for it then? just like last year with curious incident and VGL.IMHO
the Whitbread is a better prize list - the many I have read have been
great - Hawksmoor by Peter Ackroyd and Behind the scenes at the Museum by
Kate Atkinson. Already on R4 they said Booker winner is about Gay sex and
the Tory eighties - FFS its like saying the Regeneration Trilogy was about
Gay sex and WW1.
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