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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:49 am
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 19:07:57 GMT, ggamble wrote:

 > On 6 Jun 2004 11:09:13 -0700, feardevil420.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com (Will Dockery)
 > wrote:
 >
  >> Being a poet and a man really is *easy* for me, having been born
  >> into both, Renay.
 >
 > Bill Palmer

You probably missed this recent one from Palmjob.

 > From: "palmer.william" <palmer.william.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net>
 > Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.wired,alt.culture.usenet,alt.culture.
 > internet,rec.org.mensa,alt.forgery
 > Subject: Re: What if Gary Burnore Apologizes?
 > Message-ID: <c_3wc.79732$Sd2.64834@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>
 > Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:22:48 GMT
 >
 > "JAXAshby" <jaxashby.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
 > news:20040602204805.16660.00000441@mb-m15.aol.com...
   > > >If Gary Burnore gets down on his knees and apologizes for all his
   > > >bullshit, will you guys leave him alone?
 >
 > Please. Don't mention Burnore. He is, to the best
 > of my understanding (I qualify because of the the
 > smokescreen of lies which has been used to
 > hide the truth of what actuall happened)
 > the scalawag in part responsible for ruining
 > alt.genius.bill-palmer. Gary was running a
 > sorry little ISP company used by the forgers who
 > submitted false information about a.g.b-p
 > becoming moderated operated from his outfit.
 >
 > Then, when I notified the company in question
 > (hopefully long out of business by now) I received
 > a snotty email from a flunky over there, a half-
 > wit hag, obvously.. As a result of the fraud,
 > many other ISP'S were gulled into believing that
 > alt.genius.bill-palmer was a moderated group,
 > and thousands of posts from all over the world
 > were kicked back to the senders in a matter of
 > hours. Posters actually believed that the group
 > had become moderated and stopped posting to it.
 >
 > The result was one of the most shameful episodes
 > in the history of net culture. It was not funny at all.
 > How would YOU feel if suddenly you could not
 > post to your favorite group, be it misc.writing or
 > whatever, because you were told it had become
 > moderated, and later you learned that it had been
 > targeted in a subhuman attack of net vandalism?
 > You would be howling mad.
 >
 > There is nothing funny at all about deliberately
 > destroying a public forum, especially a tremendously
 > popular one like alt.genius.bill-palmer. In other
 > words, it seems clear that Burnore knew that this
 > company he owned or managaged or whatever
 > was being used as a pawn to stop alt.genius.bill-
 > palmer (which at time was the most popular fun
 > group on the net) and Gary abetted this by his
 > vicious and cowardly actions. Gary can
 > apologize all he wants to. I could care less,
 > and I don't lower myself to hold personal
 > grudges. But the damage has been done,
 > and his apologies are not going to undo that.
 >
 > Mr. Palmer
 > Room 314

The spanking at his expense that he's whining about happened more than
half a decade ago.

Oh look! Capt Beefheart's _Mirror Man_ on Cd. See y'all!
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:06 am
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:49:05 GMT, Peter J Ross <gadfly RemoveThis @NOSPAMmeow.org>
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 >Oh look! Capt Beefheart's _Mirror Man_ on Cd. See y'all!

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:12 am
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:01:55 GMT, Renay St. James wrote:

 > "Will Dockery" <feardevil420.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
 > news:47fc49bd.0406061009.33720dfa@posting.google.com...
  >> "Renay St. James" wrote:
  >>
   >>> "it's so easy to be a poet
   >>> and so hard to be
   >>> a man."
   >>>
   >>> pick one or the other and work on it, eh?
   >>>
   >>>
  >>
  >> Being a poet and a man really is *easy* for me, having been born into
 > both, Renay.
 >
 > mm-hmmm, not a big reader of Bukowski's poems I see.

There was whiskey and
there was a man. The man
liked whiskey and he
posted poems filtered
and sieved
through that man's drink,
whiskey,
to Usenet.

That man's poems were
good. The smug
academics hated
that
man's poems,

of course.
They said his poems were
unspeakable
shit
but that man
drank some more whiskey,
fucked,
and killed some women,
and the man
was me,
Charles
Bu
kow
ski.

(7min 35sec)
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:59 am
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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:06:07 GMT, ggamble wrote:

 > On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:49:05 GMT, Peter J Ross <gadfly RemoveThis @NOSPAMmeow.org>
 > wrote:
  >>
  >> Oh look! Capt Beefheart's _Mirror Man_ on Cd. See y'all!
 >
 > I've been looking for that for quite some time.

I'd send you a copy if I had a fast enough connection.

There are only four tracks, each of which lasts about fifteen minutes
and is mostly instrumental:

  Tarotplane
  Kandy Korn
  25th Century Quaker
  Mirror Man

According to the sleeve notes, the album was probably based on
material played during a tour of the UK, but nobody seems to know for
certain who the members of the Magic Band were at the time of
recording "one night in Los Angeles in 1965".

Believe it or not, I've never heard Trout Mask Replica.

But I've just found an odd can of beer in the fridge, and Safe As Milk
is waiting in the cassette player. Life is GOOD!

(If you added random line breaks to that last paragraph it would be
much better poetry than Pukowski ever wrote.)
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:59 am
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:59:08 GMT, Peter J Ross <gadfly.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMmeow.org>
wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 22:06:07 GMT, ggamble wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:49:05 GMT, Peter J Ross <gadfly.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMmeow.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh look! Capt Beefheart's _Mirror Man_ on Cd. See y'all!
>>
>> I've been looking for that for quite some time.
>
>I'd send you a copy if I had a fast enough connection.
>
>There are only four tracks, each of which lasts about fifteen minutes
>and is mostly instrumental:
>
> Tarotplane
> Kandy Korn
> 25th Century Quaker
> Mirror Man


I used to have it on vinyl.



>According to the sleeve notes, the album was probably based on
>material played during a tour of the UK, but nobody seems to know for
>certain who the members of the Magic Band were at the time of
>recording "one night in Los Angeles in 1965".
>
>Believe it or not, I've never heard Trout Mask Replica.

I like Mirror Man better.

You're gonna need
somebody
on your bond
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 7:55 am
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"Will Dockery" <feardevil420.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > "Renay St. James" <sophia.RemoveThis@prettyprettyprincess.com> wrote in message
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  > > "Will Dockery" <feardevil420.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
  > > news:47fc49bd.0406061009.33720dfa@posting.google.com...
   > > > "Renay St. James" wrote:
   > > >
   > > > > "it's so easy to be a poet
   > > > > and so hard to be
   > > > > a man."
   > > > >
   > > > > pick one or the other and work on it, eh?
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > > Being a poet and a man really is *easy* for me, having been born into
  > > both, Renay.
  > >
  > > mm-hmmm, not a big reader of Bukowski's poems I see.
  > >
  > > Renay
 >
 > Yeah, I've read a bit of Bukowski, "Boarding House Madrigals" I've got
 > a copy of. Have you read a lot of Bukowski, Renay?

yes, William. I've read Bukowski. see, if you're gonna
talk with any authority on a subject, you sorta have to
study the subject first. the well known line is from a poem
he wrote. your homework is to find out which one and
report back here. perhaps it will get you in the swing of
things and you'll actually read even more poetry. the more
you read the more you'll know. the more you know, the
more you may come to understand why you take so much
shit around here. lemme know if you need a hint about
the homework.

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:08 am
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Jethro's Giant Brain wrote:
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 > ggamble <ggam77 DeleteThis @excite.com> wrote in message news:<7796c0phol45gkvenmu5uqoangvlpb41mi DeleteThis @4ax.com>...
  > > On 6 Jun 2004 06:52:17 -0700, feardevil420 DeleteThis @yahoo.com (Will Dockery)
  > > wrote:
  > >
   > > >Yeah, looks to be a major revival of Buk interest, even more than
   > > >before... which should have the academic twits ripping their hair out
   > > >in gleeful indignation by mid Summer... Buk was a poet of the people,
   > > >real people actually read his stuff! Go figure!
  > >
  > >
  > > Moron.
 >
 > Awwww... Poor little Gary Gamble STILL can't work and play well with others.

I bet he knows, how to get, baptised again and, married.
Hell, I think I'll do a little of that myself next week.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:14 am
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Will Dockery wrote:
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 > bkindmoore RemoveThis @aol.com (Bkindmoore) wrote in message news:<20040606000136.13447.00000513 RemoveThis @mb-m18.aol.com>...
  > > << Anyway, the documentary
  > > "Bukowski: Born Into This"
  > > Directed by John Dullagan
  > > opens tomorrow in NYC
  > > at Cinema Village >>
  > >
  > > And what a documentary it is!
  > > A must for all Bukowski fans!
  > > The following is not a "spoiler".
  > > I fear that almost anything I could
  > > possibly say would be. What I can say
  > > is I came home after the film and
  > > tore into my stack of Hank's books
  > > and went online seeking out even more
  > > of his work.
 >
 > Yeah, looks to be a major revival of Buk interest, even more than
 > before... which should have the academic twits ripping their hair out
 > in gleeful indignation by mid Summer... Buk was a poet of the people,
 > real people actually read his stuff! Go figure!
 >
Actually, we're having a small bit of "trouble" figuring out how
many stray mutts can eat the same pile of barf before running into
diminishing returns, or if they each /add/ a tad to the pile on
average.
Variances appear to be personal, not subject to predication.
Feller posts as "Will Dockery," e.g., seems actually to be able to
do the "Loaves and Fishes" thing with a pile of barf.
Seems a good reason not to order a pizza from him, anyway.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 10:17 am
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ggamble wrote:
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 > On 6 Jun 2004 11:05:40 -0700, feardevil420.RemoveThis@yahoo.com (Will Dockery)
 > wrote:
 >
  > > *grin*
 >
 > It's so much more convincing if your fake grin is followed by some
 > version of chatspeak shorthand for laughing out loud.

"RIMOVCMEO"?
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