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Since: Sep 15, 2003 Posts: 109
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 10:49 pm
Post subject: The British Abroad Archived from groups: alt>books>george-orwell (more info?)
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Lock up our tourists on arrival
By Theodore Dalrymple
(Filed: 03/08/2003)
The customer is always right, of course, which is why I couldn't possibly
comment on the case of the Greek take-away owner who served some British
tourists and ended up with a broken leg, while the tourists ended up with an
instant prison sentence.
I can, however, comment on the behaviour of British tourists in general, as
it were, because - unfortunately - I have seen it with my own eyes, heard it
with my own ears and smelt it with my own nose. Suffice it to say that it is
not such as to improve one's opinion of the human race. If there are
worse-behaved tourists in the world than the British, I do not know them,
though I admit the Finns in St Petersburg run them a close second.
Fortunately, however, the Finns are few, while the British, alas, are many.
The British abroad, at least where they congregate in large numbers, are
loud, arrogant, coarse, drunken, vulgar, intimidating and stupid. They are,
not to put too fine a point upon it, the scum of the earth. Endowed by
nature with more than their fair share of ugliness, and completely lacking
in dignity or self-respect, let alone respect for others, they contrive to
arouse a Swiftian disgust in any impartial observer. Alas, this
preternatural unattractiveness is not confined to those who have crawled
from the lower depths of society: middle-class youth now believes it is
politically virtuous as well as psychologically healthy to behave in a
totally uninhibited fashion. Compared with the British abroad, the Germans
are gentlemen.
Can anything be done about it? Clearly not in Britain, for the British have
lost completely the ability to govern themselves. They are incapable of
recognising, let alone of solving, the most obvious of the problems that
beset them. They cannot see themselves as other people see them: if they
could, they wouldn't be as they are. The cause is lost in Britain.
It is therefore the foreigners who must save us from ourselves. It is the
only viable solution. I therefore suggest that the Spanish, Greeks and Turks
form a pact to arrest and place in preventive detention a half of British
tourists immediately on arrival. The fact of being a British tourist at a
resort popular with British tourists should be sufficient warrant. If more
formal charges are needed, conspiracy to vomit in public or to use
threatening behaviour towards waiters and others should suffice. After all,
if they weren't planning to behave badly, they would have come in the first
place: for no young Briton could enjoy himself without making himself
obnoxious to others. Nuisance is nine-tenths of their pleasure.
I am not in general in favour of the taking of hostages, but I make a
necessary exception in the case of British tourists. Families and friends
should be ruthlessly split by the foreign police: half to the beach, the
other half to the slammer. In the event of misbehaviour on the part of those
allocated to the beach, those in the slammer should be physically ill-used.
After all, what are foreign police for except to draw attention to the
contrast with our friendly local bobbies on the beat?
If this policy were relentlessly followed for a decade or two (the British,
being unaccustomed to learn, are rather slow at it) I have but little doubt
that British tourists would become as meek as those flocks of Japanese you
see, traipsing through the museums of the world, following the symbol held
aloft at the end of a stick by their guides.
Fascist foreign policemen of the world, do your duty: beat a British tourist
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 10:49 pm
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"ROBBIE" <littleboyschutz.DeleteThis@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:<bgjlf1$pht6b$1@ID-200782.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> Lock up our tourists on arrival
> By Theodore Dalrymple
> (Filed: 03/08/2003)
>
>
> The customer is always right, of course, which is why I couldn't possibly
> comment on the case of the Greek take-away owner who served some British
> tourists and ended up with a broken leg, while the tourists ended up with an
> instant prison sentence.
>
> I can, however, comment on the behaviour of British tourists in general, as
> it were, because - unfortunately - I have seen it with my own eyes, heard it
> with my own ears and smelt it with my own nose. Suffice it to say that it is
> not such as to improve one's opinion of the human race. If there are
> worse-behaved tourists in the world than the British, I do not know them,
> though I admit the Finns in St Petersburg run them a close second.
> Fortunately, however, the Finns are few, while the British, alas, are many.
>
> The British abroad, at least where they congregate in large numbers, are
> loud, arrogant, coarse, drunken, vulgar, intimidating and stupid.
The Swiftian psychiatrist (isn't that what Dalrymple is?) is a bit
swift to jump to a conclusion, as I have read elsewhere that the
arrested British family were actually residents of Athens, not
tourists. Be that as it may, I seem to recall our very own GO
expressing some notions about the fact that the British working class
does not travel well overseas. You may even find something on this
theme in the descriptions of World War I in CUFA. And yes, these days
the Flying Brits are much more numerous than the Flying Finns, as any
visitor to Orlando will find, though strangely, the Brits who visit
the US seem quite well behaved, not willing, I suspect, to tangle with
our gun-toting and trigger-happy cops here in Florida, nor to spend
time in our luxurious prisons. Mind you, I believe the Greeks jails
are even more Spartan than their hotels.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: The British Abroad |
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Since: Aug 07, 2003 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:21 am
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"Jonathan Mason" <jm_1951.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "ROBBIE" <littleboyschutz.TakeThisOut@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > Lock up our tourists on arrival
> > By Theodore Dalrymple
> > (Filed: 03/08/2003)
> >
> >
> > The customer is always right, of course, which is why I couldn't
possibly
> > comment on the case of the Greek take-away owner who served some British
> > tourists and ended up with a broken leg, while the tourists ended up
with an
> > instant prison sentence.
> >
> > I can, however, comment on the behaviour of British tourists in general,
as
> > it were, because - unfortunately - I have seen it with my own eyes,
heard it
> > with my own ears and smelt it with my own nose. Suffice it to say that
it is
> > not such as to improve one's opinion of the human race. If there are
> > worse-behaved tourists in the world than the British, I do not know
them,
> > though I admit the Finns in St Petersburg run them a close second.
> > Fortunately, however, the Finns are few, while the British, alas, are
many.
> >
> > The British abroad, at least where they congregate in large numbers, are
> > loud, arrogant, coarse, drunken, vulgar, intimidating and stupid.
>
> The Swiftian psychiatrist (isn't that what Dalrymple is?) is a bit
> swift to jump to a conclusion, as I have read elsewhere that the
> arrested British family were actually residents of Athens, not
> tourists. Be that as it may, I seem to recall our very own GO
> expressing some notions about the fact that the British working class
> does not travel well overseas. You may even find something on this
> theme in the descriptions of World War I in CUFA. And yes, these days
> the Flying Brits are much more numerous than the Flying Finns, as any
> visitor to Orlando will find, though strangely, the Brits who visit
> the US seem quite well behaved, not willing, I suspect, to tangle with
> our gun-toting and trigger-happy cops here in Florida, nor to spend
> time in our luxurious prisons. Mind you, I believe the Greeks jails
> are even more Spartan than their hotels.
The british are an insular island race, when confronted with new cultures
they tend to be
suspicious, and mildly aggressive, this is magnified with booze, and group
security, what I find
depressing as an ex-patriot is how utterly predictable their behaviour can
be, like most people
they reflect the values, and biases of the society they come from, the
shortage of origional
thinkers in their midst is typical of most nationalities, just disappointing
for a race that prides its
self on individuality as a national trait..<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: The British Abroad |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 1:42 pm
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Jackpine Books wrote:
>"Jonathan Mason" <jm_1951.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>"ROBBIE" <littleboyschutz.RemoveThis@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>Lock up our tourists on arrival
>>>By Theodore Dalrymple
>>>(Filed: 03/08/2003)
>>>
>>>
>>>The customer is always right, of course, which is why I couldn't
>>>
>>>
>possibly
>
>
>>>comment on the case of the Greek take-away owner who served some British
>>>tourists and ended up with a broken leg, while the tourists ended up
>>>
>>>
>with an
>
>
>>>instant prison sentence.
>>>
>>>I can, however, comment on the behaviour of British tourists in general,
>>>
>>>
>as
>
>
>>>it were, because - unfortunately - I have seen it with my own eyes,
>>>
>>>
>heard it
>
>
>>>with my own ears and smelt it with my own nose. Suffice it to say that
>>>
>>>
>it is
>
>
>>>not such as to improve one's opinion of the human race. If there are
>>>worse-behaved tourists in the world than the British, I do not know
>>>
>>>
>them,
>
>
>>>though I admit the Finns in St Petersburg run them a close second.
>>>Fortunately, however, the Finns are few, while the British, alas, are
>>>
>>>
>many.
>
>
>>>The British abroad, at least where they congregate in large numbers, are
>>>loud, arrogant, coarse, drunken, vulgar, intimidating and stupid.
>>>
>>>
>>The Swiftian psychiatrist (isn't that what Dalrymple is?) is a bit
>>swift to jump to a conclusion, as I have read elsewhere that the
>>arrested British family were actually residents of Athens, not
>>tourists. Be that as it may, I seem to recall our very own GO
>>expressing some notions about the fact that the British working class
>>does not travel well overseas. You may even find something on this
>>theme in the descriptions of World War I in CUFA. And yes, these days
>>the Flying Brits are much more numerous than the Flying Finns, as any
>>visitor to Orlando will find, though strangely, the Brits who visit
>>the US seem quite well behaved, not willing, I suspect, to tangle with
>>our gun-toting and trigger-happy cops here in Florida, nor to spend
>>time in our luxurious prisons. Mind you, I believe the Greeks jails
>>are even more Spartan than their hotels.
>>
>>
>
>The british are an insular island race, when confronted with new cultures
>they tend to be
>suspicious, and mildly aggressive, this is magnified with booze, and group
>security, what I find
>depressing as an ex-patriot is how utterly predictable their behaviour can
>be, like most people
>they reflect the values, and biases of the society they come from, the
>shortage of origional
>thinkers in their midst is typical of most nationalities, just disappointing
>for a race that prides its
>self on individuality as a national trait..
>
>
Sad thing is that young American travellers are still so stung by the
old stereotypes of the fat, visored, twang-talking McDonalds-seeking
tourist (and a wimpy, lefty sense that everyone hates them because of
Bush) that they actually try to pass themselves off as Canadian. I was
in eastern europe recently and met several impressionable young
Americans who were actively looking for a Canadian flag patch to put on
their bags.
They were all, of course, unfailingly well-behaved.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:36 pm
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"Jackpine Books" <jackpine DeleteThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> "Jonathan Mason" <jm_1951 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > "ROBBIE" <littleboyschutz DeleteThis @tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:<bgjlf1$pht6b$1@ID-200782.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> > > Lock up our tourists on arrival
> > > By Theodore Dalrymple
> > > (Filed: 03/08/2003)
> > >
> > >
> > > The customer is always right, of course, which is why I couldn't
> possibly
> > > comment on the case of the Greek take-away owner who served some
British
> > > tourists and ended up with a broken leg, while the tourists ended up
> with an
> > > instant prison sentence.
> > >
> > > I can, however, comment on the behaviour of British tourists in
general,
> as
> > > it were, because - unfortunately - I have seen it with my own eyes,
> heard it
> > > with my own ears and smelt it with my own nose. Suffice it to say that
> it is
> > > not such as to improve one's opinion of the human race. If there are
> > > worse-behaved tourists in the world than the British, I do not know
> them,
> > > though I admit the Finns in St Petersburg run them a close second.
> > > Fortunately, however, the Finns are few, while the British, alas, are
> many.
> > >
> > > The British abroad, at least where they congregate in large numbers,
are
> > > loud, arrogant, coarse, drunken, vulgar, intimidating and stupid.
> >
> > The Swiftian psychiatrist (isn't that what Dalrymple is?) is a bit
> > swift to jump to a conclusion, as I have read elsewhere that the
> > arrested British family were actually residents of Athens, not
> > tourists. Be that as it may, I seem to recall our very own GO
> > expressing some notions about the fact that the British working class
> > does not travel well overseas. You may even find something on this
> > theme in the descriptions of World War I in CUFA. And yes, these days
> > the Flying Brits are much more numerous than the Flying Finns, as any
> > visitor to Orlando will find, though strangely, the Brits who visit
> > the US seem quite well behaved, not willing, I suspect, to tangle with
> > our gun-toting and trigger-happy cops here in Florida, nor to spend
> > time in our luxurious prisons. Mind you, I believe the Greeks jails
> > are even more Spartan than their hotels.
>
> The british are an insular island race, when confronted with new cultures
> they tend to be
> suspicious, and mildly aggressive, this is magnified with booze, and group
> security, what I find
> depressing as an ex-patriot is how utterly predictable their behaviour can
> be, like most people
> they reflect the values, and biases of the society they come from, the
> shortage of origional
> thinkers in their
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most nationalities, just disappointing
> for a race that prides its
> self on individuality as a national trait..
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