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deadpool/cable mini-series - Am i the only person who thinks this series is a waste of time and space? Its poorly written and the concept is a joke. I wouldn't be surprised that when the series is over that is powers will be disolved. For some odd reason i like Cable..

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Cable's eyes - I just noticed this. The cover of X-Force #1 (2004). Cable's left eye is has scars around it: A page from X-Force #2 (2004). Now it's the right eye..

Cable/Deadpool #10 - Too bad the events in this title won't through the other X-titles and even other MU titles (when it is As much as the word is a 4-letter this would have been a fun event with other X-titles. ..

Cable/Deapool #1 - I'm in favor of it. Slick dialogue, slick art, fun action. It's two orders of slick with a side of fun. Some notes -The first page is a better cover than the actual cover. I know, bless the man that created C&D, but it's a to Brooks & Law..
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(Msg. 61) Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:04 pm
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On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:51:35 +0000, Dan McEwen wrote:

> grinningdemon <grinningdemon DeleteThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in
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>> On 31 Mar 2008 17:24:24 GMT, Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>grinningdemon <grinningdemon DeleteThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in
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>>>
>>>> Didn't he have Nightcrawler's dad turn out to be Belasco so some such
>>>> bullshit? I only read it the one time as it came out so I may have
>>>> missed something.
>>>
>>>No, that was Witchfire from Alpha Flight. Nightcrawler's father was
>>>Azazel from a race of demon-like mutants who humans once mistook to be
>>>true demons.
>>
>> Oh...I'm still not seeing much of an improvement though.
>
> There isn't much improvement. IIRC, Mystique told the story and I don't
> see her as a bastion of truth. I'm sure the whole "demon" and "angel"
> mutants can be undone in a Xornetoesque story.

I don't know about that. "It wasn't him" doesn't work so well with the
"demon" story because there were so many "siblings" that resembled
Nightcrawler. Of course since it hasn't been mentioned since then it could
probably be put down to being a bad dream that Nightcrawler had. I suppose
you could also say "they were all skrulls."

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(Msg. 62) Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:00 pm
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On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:17:09 -0500, Billy Bissette
<baines.TakeThisOut@coastalnet.com> wrote:

>grinningdemon <grinningdemon.TakeThisOut@austin.rr.com> wrote in
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>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:49:07 -0500, Billy Bissette
>> <baines.TakeThisOut@coastalnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>grinningdemon <grinningdemon.TakeThisOut@austin.rr.com> wrote in
>>>news:lfj3v3holc03prnrcvsmtpqdjem669b9o0@4ax.com:
>>>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:35:22 -0500, Billy Bissette
>>>> <baines.TakeThisOut@coastalnet.com> wrote:
>>>>>Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>news:Xns9A72438FF9E96McEwen@ 130.133.1.4:
>>>
>>>>>> Didn't Emma use her diamond form quite a lot in Astonishing?
>>>>>
>>>>> It recently got mention in Uncanny, as well. When Emma and Scott
>>>>>were in the Savage Land, she mentioned being the only person that
>>>>>could look at Scott's eyes, because she could turn her own to
>>>>>diamond.
>>>>
>>>> As I said, it comes up occasionally...but not often.
>>>
>>> It hasn't really had a place to come up. Emma arguably hasn't
>>>been that active of late.
>>
>> So? All that means is that Morrison's secondary mutation for her
>> doesn't suit her character...which makes it even more difficult to
>> make use of her diamond form...it doesn't change the fact it rarely
>> comes up...there are just different reasons why it rarely comes up.
>
> It does suit her character.

No...it doesn't...it may suit her personality...but those very aspects
of her personality also make her ill-suited as a field
operative...she's always been more of a leader/manipulator and she
very rarely gets her hands dirty...the only reason Morrison gave her
the diamond power in the first place is to make her fit in a team that
already had two telepaths so he could play out his love triangle...it
never really made much sense, in my opinion.

>
> Emotionally, it ties with the idea of her being hard, sharp, and
>dangerous. Power-wise, it is a defense system both physically and
>mentally.
>
> Morrison used it more by having her pushed to a more aggressive
>point, which also worked with her now being on an active team of
>good guys in a world where you bash people over the head to bring
>them to justice, because mind-controlling them just doesn't look
>as visually appealing.
>
>
> Except now she has fallen back to just being a supporting role.
>She wasn't even a leader in New (kids) X-Men, despite being the
>main and often only authority figure of the book.
>
> Put her back in the middle of a small active team, and she'd
>have more use for diamond form again. She's no longer really
>"active", even when she is present. She's part of Uncanny, where
>she's been on vacation and now doing a stint as a detective,
>while Scott decides what kind of team they will even be. She's
>not even a factor in X-Force, beyond apparently being the one
>person that Scott most wants to hide X-Force from. I don't know
>what status she might have in Young, but if it is any, then it
>will likely be pretty much the same as it was in the previous
>book.

I have no doubt that they could force the diamond form into more
stories if they were so inclined but I don't think her character fits
the action role...I don't believe she belongs in the field...and the
fact that she is most often shown in a Prof. X-type teacher/director
role seems to suggest the current writers agree with me.

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(Msg. 63) Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:09 pm
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On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:04:01 -0500, mimf <mimf RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:51:35 +0000, Dan McEwen wrote:
>
>> grinningdemon <grinningdemon RemoveThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in
>> news:qni3v31b2cnj0t7032qfsf0pk4gmde5tkl@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 31 Mar 2008 17:24:24 GMT, Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>grinningdemon <grinningdemon RemoveThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in
>>>>news:2eg1v314dceke2npmmq449fc1oghis86fg@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Didn't he have Nightcrawler's dad turn out to be Belasco so some such
>>>>> bullshit? I only read it the one time as it came out so I may have
>>>>> missed something.
>>>>
>>>>No, that was Witchfire from Alpha Flight. Nightcrawler's father was
>>>>Azazel from a race of demon-like mutants who humans once mistook to be
>>>>true demons.
>>>
>>> Oh...I'm still not seeing much of an improvement though.
>>
>> There isn't much improvement. IIRC, Mystique told the story and I don't
>> see her as a bastion of truth. I'm sure the whole "demon" and "angel"
>> mutants can be undone in a Xornetoesque story.
>
>I don't know about that. "It wasn't him" doesn't work so well with the
>"demon" story because there were so many "siblings" that resembled
>Nightcrawler. Of course since it hasn't been mentioned since then it could
>probably be put down to being a bad dream that Nightcrawler had. I suppose
>you could also say "they were all skrulls."

Or Austen was...because that would explain everything.
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(Msg. 64) Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:46 am
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grinningdemon <grinningdemon.RemoveThis@austin.rr.com> wrote in
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> On 1 Apr 2008 04:49:43 GMT, Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Billy Bissette <baines.RemoveThis@coastalnet.com> wrote in
>>news:Xns9A72A00193F34whatcholookinat@216.168.3.70:
>>
>>> Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:Xns9A72878AE15E3McEwen@ 130.133.1.4:
>>
>>>> My understanding was that Sage used one of her
>>>> pull-it-out-of-my-ass powers that Claremont likes to introduce. It
>>>> was something along the lines of having to jumpstart his powers to
>>>> save his life.
>>>
>>> Claremont wrote the scene, and it was a pull-it-out-of-my-ass Sage
>>> power that did it, but it was to get Beast in line with Morrison's
>>> version. Wasn't Morrison's version already in print at the time?
>>
>>Don't know because XX was on my "don't read" list.
>
> You skipped X-Treme but you read Austen's Uncanny? Say what you want
> about Claremont these days but I'd still place his worst story above
> Austen's best...of course, I can't actually think of one that deserves
> to be anyone's best.

Actually, I read XX much later, after it ceased publication, through a
friend's collection. I did quit UXM after the prologue to The Draco
but, again, read it later.

> I know it seems like I'm really hating on Chuck Austen (and I am) but
> that run just REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.

I just don't think healing powers were that bad. The Draco could easily
be undone by, at minimum, a mediocre writer.
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(Msg. 65) Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:46 am
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On 2 Apr 2008 00:46:32 GMT, Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>grinningdemon <grinningdemon RemoveThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in
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>
>> On 1 Apr 2008 04:49:43 GMT, Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Billy Bissette <baines RemoveThis @coastalnet.com> wrote in
>>>news:Xns9A72A00193F34whatcholookinat@216.168.3.70:
>>>
>>>> Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:Xns9A72878AE15E3McEwen@ 130.133.1.4:
>>>
>>>>> My understanding was that Sage used one of her
>>>>> pull-it-out-of-my-ass powers that Claremont likes to introduce. It
>>>>> was something along the lines of having to jumpstart his powers to
>>>>> save his life.
>>>>
>>>> Claremont wrote the scene, and it was a pull-it-out-of-my-ass Sage
>>>> power that did it, but it was to get Beast in line with Morrison's
>>>> version. Wasn't Morrison's version already in print at the time?
>>>
>>>Don't know because XX was on my "don't read" list.
>>
>> You skipped X-Treme but you read Austen's Uncanny? Say what you want
>> about Claremont these days but I'd still place his worst story above
>> Austen's best...of course, I can't actually think of one that deserves
>> to be anyone's best.
>
>Actually, I read XX much later, after it ceased publication, through a
>friend's collection. I did quit UXM after the prologue to The Draco
>but, again, read it later.
>
>> I know it seems like I'm really hating on Chuck Austen (and I am) but
>> that run just REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.
>
>I just don't think healing powers were that bad. The Draco could easily
>be undone by, at minimum, a mediocre writer.

Those are just two of my issues with that run...it read like Austen
had never even seen an X-Men book before...he had no understanding for
any of those characters at all and it felt like they were all suddenly
a bunch of pod people or something...it was like Civil War spread out
over 50 or 60 issues.
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(Msg. 66) Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:46 am
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> and thus Dan McEwen inscribed ...
>> ~consul <consul DeleteThis @dolphins-coveINVALID.com> wrote in
>>> and thus grinningdemon inscribed ...
>>>> Didn't he have Nightcrawler's dad turn out to be Belasco so some
>>>> such bullshit? I only read it the one time as it came out so I may
>>>> have
>>> Maybe you are thinking of Universe X where due to timetravel,
>>> Nightcrawler became Belasco. Austen had Nightcrawler from an
>>> alternate dimension, but not necessarily demons.
>> Nightcrawler is from this dimension, born on Earth in Germany. I
>> think his father was also from Earth but trapped in another
>> dimension.
>
> Yeah, that's what I meant. The dad.

Right, but he wasn't Belasco.
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(Msg. 67) Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:55 am
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Billy Bissette <baines DeleteThis @coastalnet.com> wrote in
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> grinningdemon <grinningdemon DeleteThis @austin.rr.com> wrote in
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>
>> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:34:06 -0500, Billy Bissette
>> <baines DeleteThis @coastalnet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know. You have to weigh "having an explanation" against
>>>"Sage's computer-mind magically has a new power".
>>>
>>> Not that Claremont wouldn't give her other magical new abilities
>>>if that scene hadn't been written...
>>
>> Well...that's Sage's power...the power of plot device...at least she
>> actually serves to move the stories forward unlike, say, Aunt May in
>> Spiderman who only exists to be a constant burden on Peter Parker and
>> rarely contributes anything to the story beyond that.
>
> Not just Sage's power, but anyone who is currently a pet character
> for Claremont. Though Sage is better built for it than most others.

Storm and Kitty become immune to telepathy (all of a sudden) because of
their powers. Bishop's "I know where I am all the time" sense that
didn't used to exist. Rogue having all powers but, when she loses them
entirely, can take on powerful mutants on her own. (I bought one issue
of XX because Cannonball and Magma were on the cover.) Kitty jumps to
Reed Richards level intelligence whenever he writes her (rather than
just an "average" genius who had always been written as computer
hardware/software-specific). I'm sure there are others but these are
what immediately spring to mind.
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(Msg. 68) Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:58 am
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Billy Bissette <baines RemoveThis @coastalnet.com> wrote in
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> "Nathan P. Mahney" <npmahney RemoveThis @yahoo.com.au> wrote in
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>> Yeah, but that scene only happened because Morrison wanted to use
>> Beast in his run (after Claremont had blocked out a good year's worth
>> of Beast-centric arcs for X-Treme).
>
> According to Claremont, he had blocked out a year's worth of Beast-
> centric arcs.
>
> Claremont said the same thing about Storm when he lost her. He's
> probably said it about other characters as well.

Does Claremont ever wonder why characters get yanked from him all the
time?
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(Msg. 69) Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:02 am
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and thus Dan McEwen inscribed ...
> ~consul <consul.RemoveThis@dolphins-coveINVALID.com> wrote in
>> and thus Dan McEwen inscribed ...
>>> ~consul <consul.RemoveThis@dolphins-coveINVALID.com> wrote in
>>>> and thus grinningdemon inscribed ...
>>>>> Didn't he have Nightcrawler's dad turn out to be Belasco so some
>>>>> such bullshit? I only read it the one time as it came out so I may
>>>>> have
>>>> Maybe you are thinking of Universe X where due to timetravel,
>>>> Nightcrawler became Belasco. Austen had Nightcrawler from an
>>>> alternate dimension, but not necessarily demons.
>>> Nightcrawler is from this dimension, born on Earth in Germany. I
>>> think his father was also from Earth but trapped in another
>>> dimension.
>> Yeah, that's what I meant. The dad.
> Right, but he wasn't Belasco.

In Universe/Paradise X, Nightcrawler was Belasco who time travelled back in time.
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(Msg. 70) Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:50 pm
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~consul <consul.RemoveThis@dolphins-coveINVALID.com> wrote in
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> and thus Dan McEwen inscribed ...
>> ~consul <consul.RemoveThis@dolphins-coveINVALID.com> wrote in
>>> and thus Dan McEwen inscribed ...
>>>> ~consul <consul.RemoveThis@dolphins-coveINVALID.com> wrote in
>>>>> and thus grinningdemon inscribed ...
>>>>>> Didn't he have Nightcrawler's dad turn out to be Belasco so some
>>>>>> such bullshit? I only read it the one time as it came out so I
>>>>>> may have
>>>>> Maybe you are thinking of Universe X where due to timetravel,
>>>>> Nightcrawler became Belasco. Austen had Nightcrawler from an
>>>>> alternate dimension, but not necessarily demons.
>>>> Nightcrawler is from this dimension, born on Earth in Germany. I
>>>> think his father was also from Earth but trapped in another
>>>> dimension.
>>> Yeah, that's what I meant. The dad.
>> Right, but he wasn't Belasco.
>
> In Universe/Paradise X, Nightcrawler was Belasco who time travelled
> back in time.

I heard. I also heard the Sinister (a stark white guy with pointy teeth
and a diamond in his forehead) was Colossus. Vague physical
characteristics shouldn't make two people into the same person.
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(Msg. 71) Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:50 pm
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and thus Dan McEwen inscribed ...
> ~consul <consul DeleteThis @dolphins-coveINVALID.com> wrote in
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>>> Right, but he wasn't Belasco.
>> In Universe/Paradise X, Nightcrawler was Belasco who time travelled
>> back in time.
> I heard. I also heard the Sinister (a stark white guy with pointy teeth
> and a diamond in his forehead) was Colossus. Vague physical
> characteristics shouldn't make two people into the same person.

Well, I don't recall it right now, but I can check when I get back home, but the reasons and development of his despair and moroseness made me think, "Yeah, I guess that would work." to it. Smile I know it isn't cannon, but was plausible, radical yes, but plausible.
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(Msg. 72) Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:43 am
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> grinningdemon <grinningdemon.TakeThisOut@austin.rr.com> wrote in
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>> On 1 Apr 2008 04:49:43 GMT, Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Billy Bissette <baines.TakeThisOut@coastalnet.com> wrote in
>>>news:Xns9A72A00193F34whatcholookinat@216.168.3.70:
>>>
>>>> Dan McEwen <ferroSPAMboy.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:Xns9A72878AE15E3McEwen@ 130.133.1.4:
>>>
>>>>> My understanding was that Sage used one of her
>>>>> pull-it-out-of-my-ass powers that Claremont likes to introduce. It
>>>>> was something along the lines of having to jumpstart his powers to
>>>>> save his life.
>>>>
>>>> Claremont wrote the scene, and it was a pull-it-out-of-my-ass Sage
>>>> power that did it, but it was to get Beast in line with Morrison's
>>>> version. Wasn't Morrison's version already in print at the time?
>>>
>>>Don't know because XX was on my "don't read" list.
>>
>> You skipped X-Treme but you read Austen's Uncanny? Say what you want
>> about Claremont these days but I'd still place his worst story above
>> Austen's best...of course, I can't actually think of one that deserves
>> to be anyone's best.
>
> Actually, I read XX much later, after it ceased publication, through a
> friend's collection. I did quit UXM after the prologue to The Draco
> but, again, read it later.
>
>> I know it seems like I'm really hating on Chuck Austen (and I am) but
>> that run just REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.
>
> I just don't think healing powers were that bad. The Draco could easily
> be undone by, at minimum, a mediocre writer.
>
SKRULLS!!!

D.
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>> Actually, I read XX much later, after it ceased publication, through
>> a friend's collection. I did quit UXM after the prologue to The
>> Draco but, again, read it later.
>>
>>> I know it seems like I'm really hating on Chuck Austen (and I am)
>>> but that run just REALLY rubbed me the wrong way.
>>
>> I just don't think healing powers were that bad. The Draco could
>> easily be undone by, at minimum, a mediocre writer.
>>
> SKRULLS!!!

Nightcrawler: Brand New Day #1:
A mysterious red figure now stalks the night. In order to save the
life of Kitty Pride, Nightcrawler has made a deal with Mephisto. The
cost? With a bit of revision to history, Mephisto has become
Nightcrawler's father, and the blue elf is now Rockin' In Red.

And next month, Wolverine becomes Skrullverine??? In an unexpected
side effect to Mephisto's massive memory alterations, Wolverine has
forgotten his past again. Or has he? Wolverine battles with the
very real possibility that he is actually just a Skrull imposter,
again.
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