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(Msg. 61) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:35 am
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Daryl wrote:
> >m@mooreeffoc.com writes:
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> >The Jainas and Hindus I know say the ideal thing is to live on milk and
> >truits, things given voluntarily with no killing of either plants or
> >animals.
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> Milk wouldn't qualify, lots of plants have to give their lives to produce it.
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> >When that's not practical, they work up the food chain in order of how
> >much pain or emotional suffering it causes the creature. Plants are less
> >sensitive, animals more. Unsprouted seeds like rice nearly non-feeling.
>
> Plants are les sensitive in our terms, How would you know though in an unbiased
> sense? What if the animal were anesthetized and didn't feel pain?
>
> But is a Lion wrong for eating meat? Is it a cruelty? Are we wrong for eating
> the things our systems are adapted to eat?
>
> What about vegetables that have meat protiens? This whole discussion may become
> moot.
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(Msg. 62) Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:58 am
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Slyfoot wrote:
> I am re-reading Mere Christianity again... and as always I love
> Lewis's avuncular style and amazing insights. But I was struck by the
> following passage in the first chapter:
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> "This law was called the Law of Nature because people thought that
> every one knew it by nature and did not need to be taught it. They did
> not mean, of course, that you might not find an odd individual here
> and there who did not know it, just as you find a few people who are
> colour-blind or have no ear for a tune."
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(Msg. 63) Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:34 pm
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Dan Drake wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:58:50 UTC, Tim Bruening
> <tsbrueni.TakeThisOut@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Slyfoot wrote:
> >
> > > I am re-reading Mere Christianity again... and as always I love
> > > Lewis's avuncular style and amazing insights. But I was struck by the
> > > following passage in the first chapter:
> > >
> > > "This law was called the Law of Nature because people thought that
> > > every one knew it by nature and did not need to be taught it. They did
> > > not mean, of course, that you might not find an odd individual here
> > > and there who did not know it, just as you find a few people who are
> > > colour-blind or have no ear for a tune."
> >
> > What color is conscience?
>
> And what key is it in? (Little Wolfgang once brightly remarked on the key
> in which daddy Leopold blew his nose.)
>
> But what's the point of the question? I mean, if my love is like a red red
> rose, am I obliged to know what root stock she's grafted to?
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(Msg. 64) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:42 am
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Slyfoot wrote:
> I am re-reading Mere Christianity again... and as always I love
> Lewis's avuncular style and amazing insights. But I was struck by the
> following passage in the first chapter:
>
> "This law was called the Law of Nature because people thought that
> every one knew it by nature and did not need to be taught it. They did
> not mean, of course, that you might not find an odd individual here
> and there who did not know it, just as you find a few people who are
> colour-blind or have no ear for a tune."
>
> Well, let us suppose for a moment that God does imbue people with a
> conscience and an innate moral guide (which of course is highly
> debatable) what could be the cause of someone being 'colorblind' or
> 'tone deaf' to this Law of Nature? Are we to assume that in every
> instance where someone who is amoral, who seems to be genuinely
> unaware of any sense of right or wrong, has somehow gone horribly
> wrong? Has their conscience been 'seared' perhaps, by too much
> immorality? Did they have the 'normal' conscience that everyone else
> has (as Lewis seems to be asserting here) only to gradually or
> suddenly go wrong?
>
> My own ideas about this is that what we call 'conscience' and what
> Lewis called 'the Law of Nature' is a combination of innate and
> socially ingrained feelings. In the normal conscience, one feels an
> action is right or wrong based on social approval; but in some cases
> there is an innate sense. I will try to provide two examples.
>
> One day when my sister and I were playing on the monkey bars, I took
> of my shirt. My sister, seeing nothing at all wrong with it, took her
> shirt off too. My mother caught her and yelled at her to put her
> shirt on because, of course, it was socially unacceptable. At the
> time, being kids, it was no big deal. But of course it's socially
> unacceptable (except in nudist colonies) for a girl to run around with
> no top on. My sister's conscience was thereby 'formed' by my mother's
> scolding.
Were you scolded too?
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