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rosybloom

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:58 am
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This one just confuses me:

1. Things in real life are not aesthically appealing.

2. Christianity is not aesthically appealing.

3. Therefore, Christianity is more likely to be real.

This actually leads him in several places (Weight of Glory, Mere
Christianity) to actually *play down* Christianity's beauty and even
coherence as evidence *in its favor*.

Kind of insulting to God there, calling him a crummy creator. He really
loses me with this one, man.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:05 am
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> I don't think he's really saying that Christianity is not aesthically
> appealing, still less that it is not coherent. Rather, I think the
> point is that the beauty (and coherence) that it has is non-obvious: it
> is not what a human artist would have chosen to do, and thus not what
> one would expect if Christianity were a human invention.
>

I think you have the argument exactly. If the stories were lies or
inventions then they would not be as blemished as scripture. The New
Testament comes off as something written by people who often had no
idea which events or communications were important and which were not,
so they toss in most everything they remember. If it were polished,
like some other religious works, it would be less credible imho.

Daryl

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:16 am
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In article <1139165933.406611.49090 RemoveThis @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
rosybloom RemoveThis @verizon.net wrote:

> This one just confuses me:
>
> 1. Things in real life are not aesthically appealing.
>
> 2. Christianity is not aesthically appealing.
>
> 3. Therefore, Christianity is more likely to be real.
>
> This actually leads him in several places (Weight of Glory, Mere
> Christianity) to actually *play down* Christianity's beauty and even
> coherence as evidence *in its favor*.

I don't think he's really saying that Christianity is not aesthically
appealing, still less that it is not coherent. Rather, I think the
point is that the beauty (and coherence) that it has is non-obvious: it
is not what a human artist would have chosen to do, and thus not what
one would expect if Christianity were a human invention.

Popper makes a very similar observation about scientific theories: the
best theories are those which make the most unlikely predictions (that
is, 'unlikely' from the point of view of human intuition and prior
knowledge). It's precisely when such a humanly surprising prediction is
confirmed that we conclude that the theory must be telling us something
about the real world.

Best wishes,
Matthew

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Those who assert that the mathematical sciences have nothing to say
about the good or the beautiful are mistaken. -- Aristotle
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rosybloom

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:31 pm
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That's a very deep and beautiful theory, and I'm sure he meant that to.
But I'm thinking of passages where he talks about Trinitarianism,
saying its unsatisfying because it lack the colorful personalities of
polytheism or the "monolithic granduer" or something of Unitarianism
and this was points in its favor. It sounded like "real life's not
pretty, learn to love it."
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:34 pm
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I thought he said that Christianity was "knobby" as is life. Knobby in that
it's somewhat inconvenient and demanding.

t
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