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denny536x

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 9:18 pm
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What is the correct pronunciation of the name "Duluoz"??

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 4:25 am
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dennis <denny536x RemoveThis @mac.com> wrote:
 > What is the correct pronunciation of the name "Duluoz"??

I think it's Dull-OOZE, or Da-LOSE. It's based on Kerouac's view of himself
as a loser, thus, 'Jackie Duloze,' or Jackie the Loser.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:24 am
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Thanks, i've always thought it might be the second one!!

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<marcus_denning RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

 > dennis <denny536x RemoveThis @mac.com> wrote:
  > > What is the correct pronunciation of the name "Duluoz"??
 >
 > I think it's Dull-OOZE, or Da-LOSE. It's based on Kerouac's view of himself
 > as a loser, thus, 'Jackie Duloze,' or Jackie the Loser.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:37 pm
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<marcus_denning.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > dennis <denny536x.DeleteThis@mac.com> wrote:
  > > What is the correct pronunciation of the name "Duluoz"??
 >
 > I think it's Dull-OOZE, or Da-LOSE.

No, according to Kerouac himself, it's DOO-LOO-OZ.

At least, that's how he pronounces it in his recording of "Vanity of
Duluoz."

 > It's based on Kerouac's view of himself
 > as a loser, thus, 'Jackie Duloze,' or Jackie the Loser.

In "Vanity of Duluoz" Kerouac writes that people called him 'Du Louse' (The
Louse) ... "'Ker Roach' they really called me."


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:21 pm
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In article <btjbsv$n9f$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Dave Moore" <dave.DeleteThis@dsPaMmEjnOtmoore.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

  >> I think it's Dull-OOZE, or Da-LOSE.
 >
 >No, according to Kerouac himself, it's DOO-LOO-OZ.
 >
 >At least, that's how he pronounces it in his recording of "Vanity of
 >Duluoz."

And it's the standard French way of pronouncing it. Given that he was proud
of his Breton origins, it makes sense that he'd say it that way.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:22 am
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"Dave Moore" <dave.TakeThisOut@dsPaMmEjnOtmoore.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<btjbsv$n9f$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>...
 > <marcus_denning.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:20040107202558.187$P5@newsreader.com...
  > > dennis <denny536x.TakeThisOut@mac.com> wrote:
   > > > What is the correct pronunciation of the name "Duluoz"??
  > >
  > > I think it's Dull-OOZE, or Da-LOSE.
 >
 > No, according to Kerouac himself, it's DOO-LOO-OZ.
 >
 > At least, that's how he pronounces it in his recording of "Vanity of
 > Duluoz."
 >
  > > It's based on Kerouac's view of himself
  > > as a loser, thus, 'Jackie Duloze,' or Jackie the Loser.
 >
 > In "Vanity of Duluoz" Kerouac writes that people called him 'Du Louse' (The
 > Louse) ... "'Ker Roach' they really called me."
 >
 >
 > Dave

It's an interesting question, because how it's pronounced might depend
on how he identified himself.

It can be a surprise to hear how some words are pronounced in the US.
They come from the French language, but have been in use for so long
in the US they are not pronounced in countries where French is commonly
spoken. No words come to mind at the moment, and I'm not sure could
convey them properly in writing. Leonard Pelltier comes to mind. In
the US his last name sure isn't pronounced the way I'd expect it.

Your pronunciation of Duluoz seems right. But I can also see
it being pronounced with the louse bit, if someone had been in
the English US for a long time. I've barely heard Kerouac speaking,
and not in French, so I'm not sure where he would have stood on
this.

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