"Steve Franklin" <trash.TakeThisOut@lordbalto.com> wrote in message
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> Steve Franklin
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Using Outlook Express to read News, are you? Me too.
I hate when I forget to cut and paste the .sig to the bottom.
> "Bill Cleere" <bcleere.TakeThisOut@philipkdick.com> wrote in message
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> : > <joe.TakeThisOut@jolomo.net> wrote in message
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> : > : In that movie thread someone mentioned Spike Jonze might be
> : > : working on this novel. I mentioned it last night to a buddy who
> : > : is the director's "biggest fan". After I explained the plot
> : > : of the book he said: "They're always giving him impossible
> : > : projects. He'll probably go crazy for real this time!"
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> : > One of the few novels I hadn't read before. Got about halfway through
so
> far.
> : > Very difficult to make into a movie, I believe! The logical problems
are
> just
> : > horrendous. People go from dead to living, etc., but talk frontwards?
Weird!
> : > This one of Dick's first really "religious" novels, and his addled
state of
> mind
> : > is really beginning to show.
> :
> : Even for someone like me who has a special love for CCW, what you say is
true.
> : And it certainly would be tough to make it into a movie, but if it could
be
> done,
> : it would be like no ohter film ever made!
> :
> : -- Bill Cleere
> :
> Perhaps a treatment like Naked Lunch where the author's own life is part
of the
> story.
>
> What I think Phil is trying to do in this novel is show what happens when
the
> founder of a religion comes back to check up on his followers, an obvious
> reference to Christianity and their belief in the return of the Messiah.
This
> phenomenon bears a strong resemblance to that sometimes referred to as "a
saint
> in the congregation," where the powers that be have a tough time dealing
with a
> particularly saintly person on a day to day basis. Joan of Arc is a prime
> example, finally burned at the stake by the local authorities before being
> sanctified by the very same church. Reich talks about this in "The Murder
of
> Christ." It is Phil's method for bringing about the return of the founder
of a
> particular fictional religion that is wanting here. The idea of reversing
time
> and being aware of it is just too peculiar to fly. The underlying analysis
is
> dead on, though. What would the fundamentalists do if presented with a
Semitic
> Messiah who found them championing murder and mayhem in his name and
picking on
> the very descendants of his fellow Judeans?
>
> Steve Franklin
Oddly, I found the concept of time reversing to be the easiest thing in the
book
to swallow. It just seems to fit my experience of life, I guess, in which I
can
barely remember what happened this morning, but events of decades ago are
present in perfect clarity.
The main problem with CCW is all the drug stuff PKD was working in.
The whole sequence involving the acid trip which slowed everybody down
was almost laughable. But the book is redeemed, for me at least, by the
religious theme of the Resurrection of the Dead, presented not as an article
of faith or dogma of a particular creed, but as a possibility just like
space
travel or telepathy.
I remember the first time I read it, many many years ago, and hit the
passage where the Vitarium owner's wife explains that she learned about
Anarch Peak in a class at San Jose State. Since I had just moved to
California at the time and was going to SJS myself, I started seeing PKD
in a new and more intimate light. (This would have been about 1968.)
.....prolly didn't hurt that I'd done an eensy little hit of acid before I
read
the book, either, now that I come to think of it.
-- Bill Cleere
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