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snerkable1

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:43 pm
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I just got done watching the discovery channel take on a dragon they
found preserved in a glacier, turns out the beast had a method of
producing fire from its mouth but needed certain materials to do it.
Around the dragon they found 15th century knights and when they
autopsied it they found that it died by a stab wound (Turns out all
those heroic tales of knights and dragons were true!) The dragons also
were quite strong and had gnarled teeth. Yet man drove them to
extinction along with the fact that their was an imbalance of male
dragons to female one's

I Just think that this is incredible, I always thought that dragons
were folklore and a mere myth. Let me know what yall think!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:40 pm
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snerkable.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:

 > I just got done watching the discovery channel take on a dragon they
 > found preserved in a glacier,

It was the Animal World Channel, not the History Channel. The History
Channel has no room on its schedule for dragons. Ninety percent of the
History Channel is devoted to WW2 which is why it is called, with
amusement, the Hitler Channel.

You are aware that his documentary was a faux documentary and there is
not an iota of factual evidence that dragons ever existed or could
exist. The amount of planinum in rocks is so miniscule that these beast
could not consume enough platinum to catalyze hydrogen combustion. In
addtion there are no bacteria who gaseous output is pure hydrogen.
Methane yes, pure hydrogen no. Platinum is half again as pricey as gold
because it is so rare.

Additionally the aeordynamics of the dragson as portrayed (they looked
more like Nazgul birdies than dragons) is physically impossible. The
wingspan is not sufficient even with the purported hydrogen bladders.
The bladders did not displace enough air to give any significant lift to
the beast. There are no dragons. There never were any dragons. No
dragons that looked like the T.V. dragons could ever fly.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:40 pm
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snerkable.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com <snerkable.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

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 > I Just think that this is incredible, I always thought that dragons
 > were folklore and a mere myth. Let me know what yall think!

I think you missed the program on the other channel. The one about how
trolls are alive and well today. They had some really fine specimens of
trolls. You might have learnt something by watching it.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:40 am
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Robert Kolker wrote:

 > There are no dragons. There never were any dragons.

Au contraire, it's well known that dragons had symbiotic
relationships with electric eels, which they used to ignite
their pilot lights.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:40 am
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"" wrote in rec.arts.books.tolkien:
 >I just got done watching the discovery channel take on a dragon they
 >found preserved in a glacier,
 > I Just think that this is incredible, I always thought that dragons
 >were folklore and a mere myth. Let me know what yall think!

What we-all think is that either you're doing some not-very-clever
trolling, or you didn't watch the show very carefully. At several
points they made it clear that this was fantasy. As these things
go, it was fairly well done, but still they reminded you several
times that this was all made up.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:40 am
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"Robert Kolker" wrote in rec.arts.books.tolkien:
 >It was the Animal World Channel, not the History Channel. The History
 >Channel has no room on its schedule for dragons.

Surely you don't think the History Channel shows only history? They
show myths too -- not dragons, but xtian myths.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:40 am
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On 21 Mar 2005 14:43:36 -0800, snerkable.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:

 >I just got done watching the discovery channel take on a dragon they
 >found preserved in a glacier, turns out the beast had a method of
 >producing fire from its mouth but needed certain materials to do it.
 >Around the dragon they found 15th century knights and when they
 >autopsied it they found that it died by a stab wound (Turns out all
 >those heroic tales of knights and dragons were true!) The dragons also
 >were quite strong and had gnarled teeth. Yet man drove them to
 >extinction along with the fact that their was an imbalance of male
 >dragons to female one's
 >
 > I Just think that this is incredible, I always thought that dragons
 >were folklore and a mere myth. Let me know what yall think!

Yes, I think it's incredible too.


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:40 pm
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Sean wrote:

 > Robert Kolker wrote:
 >
  >> There are no dragons. There never were any dragons.
 >
 > Au contraire, it's well known that dragons had symbiotic
 > relationships with electric eels, which they used to ignite
 > their pilot lights.

Oops - typo. That should have been "ignite their pilot fish".
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:40 pm
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"Robert Kolker" <nowhere RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
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 > snerkable RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:
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  > > I just got done watching the discovery channel take on a dragon they
  > > found preserved in a glacier,

 > It was the Animal World Channel, not the History Channel. The History
 > Channel has no room on its schedule for dragons.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:40 pm
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jojo wrote:
 > he said discovery channel, not history channel

Oops. Sorry about that.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:40 am
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"jojo" wrote in rec.arts.books.tolkien:
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 >"Robert Kolker" <nowhere.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
 >news:vY6dnfBu_qfrzaLfRVn-uA@comcast.com...
  >> snerkable.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
  >>
   >> > I just got done watching the discovery channel take on a dragon they
   >> > found preserved in a glacier,
 >
  >> It was the Animal World Channel, not the History Channel. The History
  >> Channel has no room on its schedule for dragons.
 >
 >he said discovery channel, not history channel

So you're objecting that he was wrong to say it was animal not
history and he should have said it was animal not discovery. In
other words, you're saying his correction was right but he quoted
the error incorrectly.

And I thought _I_ was nitpicky Smile

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