Dahak series question.

In article <LNmdna18gNxJ1dTZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d DeleteThis @comcast.com>,
brionl DeleteThis @lienhart.name says...
> HawkEye wrote:
> > First apologies if this has been covered before but I'm currently rereading
> > the Dahak series and I've come across a 'dodgy' section. When Colin
> > activates Operation Lacoon and creates a hyperspace lockout of the Aku
> > 'Ultan how do the hyper missiles still work ??
> >
> > If a ship can't enter hyperspace why can a missile ? Is it a mass issue ?
> > DW doesn't mention it anywhere that I have seen but he may have said
> > something somewhere else that I have missed.
> >
> > Any answers appreciated.
> >
> >
>
> Since hyper missiles also work inside the hyper limit of a star, I
> wouldn't worry about it.

Well, that is an odd inconsistency. Only thing I can think of is that
the missiles are launched into hyper by the firing ship, instead of
being self-hypering? Bit of a reach, but...
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Dan Swartzendruber wrote:
> In article <LNmdna18gNxJ1dTZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d.TakeThisOut@comcast.com>,
> brionl.TakeThisOut@lienhart.name says...

>> Since hyper missiles also work inside the hyper limit of a star, I
>> wouldn't worry about it.
>
> Well, that is an odd inconsistency. Only thing I can think of is that
> the missiles are launched into hyper by the firing ship, instead of
> being self-hypering? Bit of a reach, but...

Smaller mass can go into hyper closer to the big mass?
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:21:36 +0100, an orbiting mind-control laser
made HawkEye <sunbed DeleteThis @rocketmail.com> write:

>If a ship can't enter hyperspace why can a missile ? Is it a mass issue ?
>DW doesn't mention it anywhere that I have seen but he may have said
>something somewhere else that I have missed.
>
>Any answers appreciated.


I asked David the 'hypermissiles-within-the-hyper-threshold'
question many moons ago.

I asked if it was a function of mass and his reply was "Yep."


So... you can surmise that there is a really, _really_ steep
drop-off in allowable hyper-mass at some multi-lightminute range from
a stellar mass, yet still allows rather small masses to boost into
hyper.

The range at which the steep "knee" exists depends on the type of
hyperdrive. (Note that for starship-level masses, the Aku'Ultan could
hyper in closer to a star than the Fourth Imperium. I also believe
that the Fifth Imperium's hyper drive let it move in even closer than
the Aku'Ultan to the same star.)

-JPB
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Brion K. Lienhart wrote:
> HawkEye wrote:
>> First apologies if this has been covered before but I'm currently
>> rereading
>> the Dahak series and I've come across a 'dodgy' section. When Colin
>> activates Operation Lacoon and creates a hyperspace lockout of the Aku
>> 'Ultan how do the hyper missiles still work ??
>>
>> If a ship can't enter hyperspace why can a missile ? Is it a mass issue ?
>> DW doesn't mention it anywhere that I have seen but he may have said
>> something somewhere else that I have missed.
>>
>> Any answers appreciated.
>>
>>
>
> Since hyper missiles also work inside the hyper limit of a star, I
> wouldn't worry about it.

Yeah but that's sort of the point. Unless we assume that smaller object
mass affects the hyper limit (which is not stated) then that also shouldn't
be true.

Just something that crossed my mind the other day

--

Regards

Neil

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Tom Weaver wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:54:04 -0400, Dahak
> <Dahak_II RemoveThis @theXOUTfifthimperium.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> I asked David the 'hypermissiles-within-the-hyper-threshold'
>> question many moons ago.
>
> Bad pun! Bad! No bisquit for you!

Why is that? It sounds a perfectly valid, hyperthetical question.
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:16:36 -0500, Michelle Steiner
<michelle.DeleteThis@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <itOdnSR89p-4ddbZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d.DeleteThis@scnresearch.com>,
> Offbreed <offbreed_106.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >> I asked David the 'hypermissiles-within-the-hyper-threshold'
>> >> question many moons ago.
>> >
>> > Bad pun! Bad! No bisquit for you!
>>
>> Why is that? It sounds a perfectly valid, hyperthetical question.
>
> "many moons" Dahak Get it?
>

hyperthetical

hyper-thetical

I thought it was pretty funny.


--
Andrew L.
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:33:53 -0400, an orbiting mind-control laser
made Tom Weaver <iamweaver.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> write:

>On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:54:04 -0400, Dahak
><Dahak_II.DeleteThis@theXOUTfifthimperium.com.invalid> wrote:
>
><snip>
>> I asked David the 'hypermissiles-within-the-hyper-threshold'
>>question many moons ago.
>
>Bad pun! Bad! No bisquit for you!

As God is my witness... that was an accident!

Really!


I reread the message after posting it and groaned a bit, myself.


(Slinking away to crawl under a rock...)

-JPB
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:21:36 +0100, HawkEye <sunbed.TakeThisOut@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

>First apologies if this has been covered before but I'm currently rereading
>the Dahak series and I've come across a 'dodgy' section. When Colin
>activates Operation Lacoon and creates a hyperspace lockout of the Aku
>'Ultan how do the hyper missiles still work ??
>
>If a ship can't enter hyperspace why can a missile ? Is it a mass issue ?
>DW doesn't mention it anywhere that I have seen but he may have said
>something somewhere else that I have missed.
>
>Any answers appreciated.

Apparently--after all, hyper missiles could be launched right off
Earth itself.
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:44:33 -0400, Dan Swartzendruber
<dswartz.TakeThisOut@druber.com> wrote:

>Well, that is an odd inconsistency. Only thing I can think of is that
>the missiles are launched into hyper by the firing ship, instead of
>being self-hypering? Bit of a reach, but...

No, only the Acultanni missiles have external hyper drives. Imperium
missiles have internal hyper drives.
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In article <1kv252hg31mvj2947ehjurs91mhfq9gm4n.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
lorenpechtel.TakeThisOut@hotmail.invalid.com says...
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:21:36 +0100, HawkEye <sunbed.TakeThisOut@rocketmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >First apologies if this has been covered before but I'm currently rereading
> >the Dahak series and I've come across a 'dodgy' section. When Colin
> >activates Operation Lacoon and creates a hyperspace lockout of the Aku
> >'Ultan how do the hyper missiles still work ??
> >
> >If a ship can't enter hyperspace why can a missile ? Is it a mass issue ?
> >DW doesn't mention it anywhere that I have seen but he may have said
> >something somewhere else that I have missed.
> >
> >Any answers appreciated.
>
> Apparently--after all, hyper missiles could be launched right off
> Earth itself.

No, they have to launched from vacuum, otherwise the air screws the
targeting solutions to hell and gone. Remember how (briefly) surprised
one of Anu's fighter pilots was when the other two fighers in his wing
got vaped out of nowhere? He looks at his readouts and see they were
hypoer missiles and has the thought that Dahak must still be
operational...
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:23:33 -0400, Dan Swartzendruber
<dswartz DeleteThis @druber.com> wrote:

>> Apparently--after all, hyper missiles could be launched right off
>> Earth itself.
>
>No, they have to launched from vacuum, otherwise the air screws the
>targeting solutions to hell and gone. Remember how (briefly) surprised
>one of Anu's fighter pilots was when the other two fighers in his wing
>got vaped out of nowhere? He looks at his readouts and see they were
>hypoer missiles and has the thought that Dahak must still be
>operational...

You're not contradicting me.

Yes, they must launch from vacuum. The big PDC's of the seige could
fire them from the surface, though. They had huge evacuated tubes to
fire from.
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In article <2nk452ppjomdsot0ato4pe15f9g9rnm6t8.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
lorenpechtel.RemoveThis@hotmail.invalid.com says...
> On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:23:33 -0400, Dan Swartzendruber
> <dswartz.RemoveThis@druber.com> wrote:
>
> >> Apparently--after all, hyper missiles could be launched right off
> >> Earth itself.
> >
> >No, they have to launched from vacuum, otherwise the air screws the
> >targeting solutions to hell and gone. Remember how (briefly) surprised
> >one of Anu's fighter pilots was when the other two fighers in his wing
> >got vaped out of nowhere? He looks at his readouts and see they were
> >hypoer missiles and has the thought that Dahak must still be
> >operational...
>
> You're not contradicting me.
>
> Yes, they must launch from vacuum. The big PDC's of the seige could
> fire them from the surface, though. They had huge evacuated tubes to
> fire from.

Ah, I must have missed that. I remember the ODCs primarily...
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