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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 3:13 pm
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"Janus" <janusredway DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote

> > Yup, go and stand in the corner. I read it as the big reveal to the
> > characters, not the reader.
> >
>
> What were your thoughts on the book as a whole? I liked it.

I liked it too, though it's been before really. It kind of felt like Astro
City meets Top Ten, which can't be a bad thing I guess.

Having said which Top Ten felt like Astro City meets Hill Street Blues, so
maybe Kurt B can claim spiritual copyright on a lot of this stuff.

And I stand by my lonely position in the corner that it would have been a
better comic without Bishop on the cover.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 4:09 pm
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In message <20040515013521.19642.00000956.TakeThisOut@mb-m03.aol.com>, Jason
<theuspsclerk.TakeThisOut@aol.com> writes
 >Unless you don't pick up Previews, never come to the internet to find
 >out about comics, or even read Wizard, then I can't see there being a
 >huge problem with you knowing Bishop was in the book because of the
 >cover.

In fact, even if you only read the comics, all of this month's X-books
trail DISTRICT X on the letters page as an "All new Marvel Knights
X-series starring Bishop."

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 6:25 pm
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"Paul O'Brien" <paul.DeleteThis@SPAMBLOCK.esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote

 > In fact, even if you only read the comics, all of this month's X-books
 > trail DISTRICT X on the letters page as an "All new Marvel Knights
 > X-series starring Bishop."

Is it possible, even in this age of information saturation, to simply meet
and judge a comic on its own merits as an object, without it being mediated
by any form of external promotion, marketing or review?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 6:25 pm
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"teepee" <no-email DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

 > Is it possible, even in this age of information saturation, to simply meet
 > and judge a comic on its own merits as an object, without it being mediated
 > by any form of external promotion, marketing or review?

Yes, but only if you aren't doing your own buying. If a spouse picks up
comics, for example, you can check out what they're interested in almost
blind (besides the filter of their taste). Or in rare cases, one might
be sent comics if one's opinion is being solicited.

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 6:25 pm
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 >"Paul O'Brien" <paul.DeleteThis@SPAMBLOCK.esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote
  >> In fact, even if you only read the comics, all of this month's X-books
  >> trail DISTRICT X on the letters page as an "All new Marvel Knights
  >> X-series starring Bishop."

"teepee" <no-email.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
 >Is it possible, even in this age of information saturation, to simply meet
 >and judge a comic on its own merits as an object, without it being mediated
 >by any form of external promotion, marketing or review?

No.

At least not if it's from Marvel or DC and you are a comic reader, as
opposed to someone accidentally wandering by a comics rack in Waldenbooks
and picking the comic off the rack at random on a whim.

I would say it is completely impossible for anyone who buys comics through
a comics specialty store
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 7:47 pm
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Johanna Draper Carlson <johannaNOSPAM DeleteThis @comicsworthreading.com> wrote in
news:johannaNOSPAM-228751.14394715052004@individual.net:

 > Yes, but only if you aren't doing your own buying. If a spouse picks up
 > comics, for example, you can check out what they're interested in almost
 > blind (besides the filter of their taste). Or in rare cases, one might
 > be sent comics if one's opinion is being solicited.

I've been known to browse the bookshelves from time to time. Sometimes a
book still randomly jumps off the shelf at me. I discovered both Desert
Peach and Berlin that way.

Can you imagine any worse jumping on point for a series than the special
"program of the musical production" issue of Desert Peach? How I got
sucked in is still a mystery to me.

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 3:56 am
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On 15 May 2004 05:30:01 GMT, theuspsclerk.DeleteThis@aol.com (Jason) wrote:

  >>I really quite like the premise of this comic, but I would have enjoyed it a
  >>hell of a lot more with a different cover. Do the editors even read their
  >>comics?
  >>
 >
 >It's the trend of comics these days to have covers that have absoultely nothing
 >at all to do with the story that's inside. Most covers lately are pin-ups. For
 >example the latest issue of Ultimate Fantastic Four sports a cover of Invisible
 >Woman with a bunch of photographers surrounding her, in the issue she's nowhere
 >to be found.

.....


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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 4:09 am
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William George Ferguson wrote:
   >>> In fact, even if you only read the comics, all of this month's X-books
   >>> trail DISTRICT X on the letters page as an "All new Marvel Knights
   >>> X-series starring Bishop."
  >>
  >> Is it possible, even in this age of information saturation, to simply meet
  >> and judge a comic on its own merits as an object, without it being mediated
  >> by any form of external promotion, marketing or review?
 >
 > No.
 >
 > At least not if it's from Marvel or DC and you are a comic reader, as
 > opposed to someone accidentally wandering by a comics rack in Waldenbooks
 > and picking the comic off the rack at random on a whim.
 >
 > I would say it is completely impossible for anyone who buys comics through
 > a comics specialty store

Nonsense. You really think everybody who buys comics through a comics
specialty store stays in tune with all comics? I know I certainly don't.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 4:11 am
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JinX wrote:
   >>> This was indeed my point. But for the cover I wouldn't have known
   >>> Bishop was in it, and would have enjoyed the surprise, and clearly that
   >>> was the author's intent, judging by the way it was written.Otherwise
   >>> why the big reveal?
  >>
  >> It's not meant to be a big reveal. They've always promoted this as a
  >> Bishop series. Hell, they trailed it with a Bishop story in the last
  >> issue of X-MEN UNLIMITED.
 >
 > I felt similarly about Lady Deathstrike in X2, the big reveal of her
 > right before her battle with Wolverine had its thunder completely
 > stolen by showing the moment in the trailers for the movie.

That wasn't a "big reveal" either, considering we had already seen her
in the movie.
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 2:35 pm
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In message <13d78654.0405150640.4e549348 RemoveThis @posting.google.com>, JinX
<jinxdv8 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> writes
 >
 >I felt similarly about Lady Deathstrike in X2, the big reveal of her
 >right before her battle with Wolverine had its thunder completely
 >stolen by showing the moment in the trailers for the movie.

Ah well, this is a common problem with movie trailers generally. The
vast majority of them are put together by hacks with no sympathy for the
actual story, and whenever people complain, they bleat about surveys
showing how much more effective trailers are when they give away the
whole story.

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 2:38 pm
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In message <huWdnW_4A75MujvdRVn-uw.TakeThisOut@nildram.net>, teepee
<no-email.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> writes
 >
 >Is it possible, even in this age of information saturation, to simply
 >meet and judge a comic on its own merits as an object, without it being
 >mediated by any form of external promotion, marketing or review?

To all intents and purposes, no.

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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sun May 16, 2004 5:22 pm
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blakgard RemoveThis @aol.coma.org (The Black Guardian) wrote in message news:<20040515211148.15149.00001411 RemoveThis @mb-m17.aol.com>...
 > JinX wrote:
   > >>> This was indeed my point. But for the cover I wouldn't have known
   > >>> Bishop was in it, and would have enjoyed the surprise, and clearly that
   > >>> was the author's intent, judging by the way it was written.Otherwise
   > >>> why the big reveal?
   > >>
   > >> It's not meant to be a big reveal. They've always promoted this as a
   > >> Bishop series. Hell, they trailed it with a Bishop story in the last
   > >> issue of X-MEN UNLIMITED.
  > >
  > > I felt similarly about Lady Deathstrike in X2, the big reveal of her
  > > right before her battle with Wolverine had its thunder completely
  > > stolen by showing the moment in the trailers for the movie.
 >
 > That wasn't a "big reveal" either, considering we had already seen her
 > in the movie.

We'd seen Yuriko, and even seen here kick a little ass but the "big
reveal" would have been that she was a female version of Wolverine
with Adamantium claws as well which you wouldnt have known without
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 2:20 pm
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teepee wrote:
 >
 > A spoiler for a spoiler....
 >
 > I really quite like the premise of this comic, but I would have enjoyed it a
 > hell of a lot more with a different cover. Do the editors even read their
 > comics?

It does look like the comic's more about gangers than cops.

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(Msg. 29) Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 7:46 pm
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In rec.arts.comics.misc David Doty <davedoty.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
 > Johanna Draper Carlson <johannaNOSPAM.DeleteThis@comicsworthreading.com> wrote in
 > news:johannaNOSPAM-228751.14394715052004@individual.net:

  > > Yes, but only if you aren't doing your own buying. If a spouse picks up
  > > comics, for example, you can check out what they're interested in almost
  > > blind (besides the filter of their taste). Or in rare cases, one might
  > > be sent comics if one's opinion is being solicited.

 > I've been known to browse the bookshelves from time to time. Sometimes a
 > book still randomly jumps off the shelf at me. I discovered both Desert
 > Peach and Berlin that way.

 > Can you imagine any worse jumping on point for a series than the special
 > "program of the musical production" issue of Desert Peach? How I got
 > sucked in is still a mystery to me.

My first LSH comic was the first issue of the Baxter series, the one with
the Legion of Super-Villains, who nearly doubled the number of characters
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 5:15 am
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"teepee" <no-email DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in news:huWdnW_4A75MujvdRVn-
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 > Is it possible, even in this age of information saturation, to simply meet
 > and judge a comic on its own merits as an object, without it being mediated
 > by any form of external promotion, marketing or review?

Absolutely. Just don't read the ads, promotions, trailers and solicitations.
Oh, and read the book yourself before reading other peoples' reviews of it
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