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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2003 9:25 pm
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Hi! I have noticed several Easton Press Signed First Edition science
fiction books.
The particular one I got curious about is Solis by A. A. Anttanasio
There is an Easton Press signed first on Ebay at
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3569037716&category=2232&rd=1
but, according to what I see for sale on bookfinder.com, Harper Collins
is the publisher of the US first hardback edition.
So, I am wondering if the Easton Press is the 'real' first. Is this
normal with that company (to put out fancy signed versions of books in
first edition before the 'regular' FE HB comes out?)
The ad mentions illustrations (which at least the trade paperback of
that book doesn't have). Does Easton commonly do illustrations? Are they
any good? (in general, or in specific if anyone has actually seen this
particular book).
Are the Easton bindings as nice as they sound? Do they hold up well? Are
they fun to collect?
thanks for any info!
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 5:11 am
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Easton (still in business, about $70 a book), tried "very hard" to make sure
their "first editions" came out before the trade editions, but there is some
doubt they succeeded in all cases (and some are sure they did not succeed.)
This is important to collectors of first editions, but sometimes there is no
way to tell.
Easton contracts with each publisher and author (author's agent) to produce
a book; there's little reason for them to say no. The illustrations are
full-page full-color plates, and are quite nice, but because the books are
tightly bound, it's not easy to display the illustration without loosening
the book. I don't know if the books are durable; I doubt they're read very
often, and then carefully!
I think they're very nice books, and look great on the shelf, but I am
loath (i.e. too cheap) to pay more than $35 for all a but a few of the
scarcer titles.
I haven't seen that particular book in person.
Easton is fun for me because every once in a while I find one for $25, about
the same price as an ordinary modern book.
---Mike
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"p sears" <sears DeleteThis @nospamplease.vt.edu> wrote in message
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> Hi! I have noticed several Easton Press Signed First Edition science
> fiction books.
>
> The particular one I got curious about is Solis by A. A. Anttanasio
> There is an Easton Press signed first on Ebay at
>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3569037716&category=2232&rd=1" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3569037716&category=2232&rd=1</a>
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> but, according to what I see for sale on bookfinder.com, Harper Collins
> is the publisher of the US first hardback edition.
>
> So, I am wondering if the Easton Press is the 'real' first. Is this
> normal with that company (to put out fancy signed versions of books in
> first edition before the 'regular' FE HB comes out?)
>
> The ad mentions illustrations (which at least the trade paperback of
> that book doesn't have). Does Easton commonly do illustrations? Are they
> any good? (in general, or in specific if anyone has actually seen this
> particular book).
>
> Are the Easton bindings as nice as they sound? Do they hold up well? Are
> they fun to collect?
>
> thanks for any info!
>
> --
> Pris Sears
> sears at vt dot edu
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 8:33 pm
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"Mike Berro" <mikeberrox DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>Easton (still in business, about $70 a book), tried "very hard" to make sure
>their "first editions" came out before the trade editions, but there is some
>doubt they succeeded in all cases (and some are sure they did not succeed.)
>This is important to collectors of first editions, but sometimes there is no
>way to tell.
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A couple of the Easton Press editions of Bujold's Vorkosigan novels
are indisputably true firsts and are priced accordingly.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:44 am
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I'd guess that more than half of the Eastons are true firsts, although not
neccessarily much in demand. Also, even some of the Easton reprints are
quite valuable, such as Feist's MAGICIAN (in two volumes.)
How could such vagueries not be fun to collect? <grin>
---Mike
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> "Mike Berro" <mikeberrox.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >Easton (still in business, about $70 a book), tried "very hard" to make
sure
> >their "first editions" came out before the trade editions, but there is
some
> >doubt they succeeded in all cases (and some are sure they did not
succeed.)
> >This is important to collectors of first editions, but sometimes there is
no
> >way to tell.
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> A couple of the Easton Press editions of Bujold's Vorkosigan novels
> are indisputably true firsts and are priced accordingly.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 2:42 pm
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In article <yfTxb.35$Zu5.60526@news3.news.adelphia.net>, "Mike Berro"
<mikeberrox RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Easton contracts with each publisher and author (author's agent) to produce
> a book; there's little reason for them to say no. The illustrations are
> full-page full-color plates, and are quite nice, but because the books are
> tightly bound, it's not easy to display the illustration without loosening
> the book. I don't know if the books are durable; I doubt they're read very
> often, and then carefully!
Why are they bound so tightly? (I don't know anything about bindings).
It's too bad for me! I would love to see the illustrations for some of the
Easton versions of books I know and enjoyed but it doesn't sound like
anyone's going to be scanning them to share 
> I think they're very nice books, and look great on the shelf, but I am
> loath (i.e. too cheap) to pay more than $35 for all a but a few of the
> scarcer titles.
Meee Too. The one I noticed on Ebay went for $50-some, too much for me.
> I haven't seen that particular book in person.
>
> Easton is fun for me because every once in a while I find one for $25, about
> the same price as an ordinary modern book.
>
That would be fun!
Thanks very much for the info. Are most of the Easton books signed as
well? (The one I saw had a signed bookplate, which I understand the
convenience for the author and publisher, but I'm just not a fan of
bookplates. I'd rather have the signature on the book itself.)
P Sears
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 2:39 am
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I don't know about most of Easton Press's signed books, but the "Signed First
Editions of Science Fiction" have a tipped in page with the author's signature
and limitation statement. (This series is one of the few that Easton
specifically limits -- usually the runs are 1000 copies per title.) Most of the
books are not the genuine firsts as hardbacks -- an Easton representative tried
to explain to me that what they mean is that it's a "first signed edition,"
which means that trade editions, while true firsts, are not the true "signed
firsts!" Whatever... I still find them attractively designed with good color
plates specific to the series by Vincent diFate and other well-known artists.
And it is true that when they do editions of books that were published as
paperback originals (Bujold and Harry Turtledove come to mind), then Easton has
produced a genuine first hardback and these are quite collectable.
Mike
>Are most of the Easton books signed as
>well? (The one I saw had a signed bookplate, which I understand the
>convenience for the author and publisher, but I'm just not a fan of
>bookplates. I'd rather have the signature on the book itself.)
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:49 am
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"Mike Berro" <mikeberrox.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I'd guess that more than half of the Eastons are true firsts, although not
>neccessarily much in demand. Also, even some of the Easton reprints are
>quite valuable, such as Feist's MAGICIAN (in two volumes.)
>
>How could such vagueries not be fun to collect? <grin>
>
(replying to an old message)
You wouldn't happen to know of an online list of all the books Easton
has published in its "Signed First Editions of Science Fiction"
series, would you? Or a list of reprints, for that matter?
Easton's web site is rather sub-par.
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In article <20031213183909.12155.00000851.TakeThisOut@mb-m05.aol.com>, mtsaler.TakeThisOut@aol.com
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> I don't know about most of Easton Press's signed books, but the "Signed First
> Editions of Science Fiction" have a tipped in page with the author's signature
> and limitation statement. (This series is one of the few that Easton
> specifically limits -- usually the runs are 1000 copies per title.) Most
of the
> books are not the genuine firsts as hardbacks -- an Easton
representative tried
> to explain to me that what they mean is that it's a "first signed edition,"
> which means that trade editions, while true firsts, are not the true "signed
> firsts!" Whatever... I still find them attractively designed with good color
> plates specific to the series by Vincent diFate and other well-known artists.
> And it is true that when they do editions of books that were published as
> paperback originals (Bujold and Harry Turtledove come to mind), then
Easton has
> produced a genuine first hardback and these are quite collectable.
>
> Mike
Hi! Thanks for the info. Here's another question - when you say the
author's signature page & limitation statement is 'tipped in,' does that
mean it is just put inside the front cover but not glued down? Does that
count as 'really' signed?
thanks again!
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:18 pm
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> Mike
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> Hi! Thanks for the info. Here's another question - when you say the
> author's signature page & limitation statement is 'tipped in,' does that
> mean it is just put inside the front cover but not glued down? Does that
> count as 'really' signed?
>
> thanks again!
>
> P Sears
I don't know what MTSaler had in mind, bue ABEBooks defines "tipped
in" as "the plate, autograph, letter, photo, etc., is actually
attached to the book."
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 7:17 pm
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>Hi! Thanks for the info. Here's another question - when you say the
>author's signature page & limitation statement is 'tipped in,' does that
>mean it is just put inside the front cover but not glued down? Does that
>count as 'really' signed?
>
>thanks again!
>
>P Sears
The signature/limitation page is actually bound in as part of the book.
Included with each book, but not bound in, is a card stating the limitation
number of the book, and a card presenting a brief biography of the author.
The series recently published Syme Mitchell's _The Changeling Plague_, which
had only been published as a paperback before -- thus a true first hardcover
edition.
As a collector of "true firsts," I used to avoid Easton Press, but I've been
gradually won over by them and have bought some of their other non-limited
editions because of the overall appeal of the book design. They've just
published the Howard Pyle illustrated "King Arthur" series in a beautiful
leather edition, complete with all the illustrations. I doubt this edition will
ever be truly collectable, unlike the original firsts, but to my eye it is
lovely.
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That indeed is what I mean by tipped in. The bookplate is "laid in," until
someone sticks it to the book, then it is "pasted on."
"Really signed?" In fact, for almost all limited editions, the author signs
a stack of sheets, not the book, and then the sheets are tipped in when the
books are bound. This may not appeal to all collectors, but on the other
hand, you're pretty much guaranteed the signature is authentic. I have a few
limited editions I had the author additionally sign, for the best of both
worlds. For one of my van Vogt books, the signatures were 50 years apart.
---Mike
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> > Mike
> >
> > Hi! Thanks for the info. Here's another question - when you say the
> > author's signature page & limitation statement is 'tipped in,' does that
> > mean it is just put inside the front cover but not glued down? Does that
> > count as 'really' signed?
> >
> > thanks again!
> >
> > P Sears
>
> I don't know what MTSaler had in mind, bue ABEBooks defines "tipped
> in" as "the plate, autograph, letter, photo, etc., is actually
> attached to the book."
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In article <WBwGb.2827$rZ6.1501204@news3.news.adelphia.net>, "Mike Berro"
<mikeberrox DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> That indeed is what I mean by tipped in. The bookplate is "laid in," until
> someone sticks it to the book, then it is "pasted on."
>
> "Really signed?" In fact, for almost all limited editions, the author signs
> a stack of sheets, not the book, and then the sheets are tipped in when the
> books are bound. This may not appeal to all collectors, but on the other
> hand, you're pretty much guaranteed the signature is authentic. I have a few
> limited editions I had the author additionally sign, for the best of both
> worlds. For one of my van Vogt books, the signatures were 50 years apart.
>
> ---Mike
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So, 'tipped in' is actually bound into the book? I didn't realize that. Is
it known as 'tipped in' to distinguish it from a book that the author
signed after it was bound? (Which is what I was trying to say by 'really
signed.' It was not meant as a perjorative!) Now I see, bookplates don't
have anything to do with 'tipped in,' they are laid in or pasted on.
Was van Vogt surprised? I would be! What book & what kind of signatures,
if you don't mind me asking?
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:10:56 GMT, "Mike Berro"
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>The book is MASTERS OF TIME (1950), one of 500 signed and numbered copies. I
>was mistaken (now that I looked it up), it was signed and dated again in
>1991, making it "only" 41 years. He seemed pretty pleased to see it, but
>most of the books people had for him to sign were of that vintage, so I
>don't think he was surprised.
>
>I have a few other signed limited editions I took in to be re-signed, and
>most of the authors thought I was crazy (which, of course, is true.) Some
>insisted it would lower the value of the books, which again may be true, but
>not my primary concern. Back to Easton; I have several of their unsigned
>books that I later got signed; I say you can't have too many signatures!
>(Hmm, I think I have a book with three of the same signatures, but I can't
>recall off-hand.)
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>---Mike
I don't think that I have any with three, but scads with two
signatures... I generally don't make a point of getting signed
limiteds inscribed, but I have enough books by friends that were
issued thus, that the number of such inscribed/signed books is
probably in the dozens. (most recent addition is Wilum Pugmire's
delightful collection of Lovecraftian tales set in the Norhwest,
SESQUA VALLEY.
Where I tend to have the most double signatures is when an
author/editor has one of their own stories in a book. I have the title
page signed (of course) and also request a signature on their story. I
don't think I've ever actually finished off an anthology, but it is
fun to keep chipping away at it...
I forgot to take my copy of IN THE FIELDS OF FIRE to World Fantasy
last year (signed by all except Bruce McAllister and Jack Dann).
McAllister is probably impossible as I never hear of him attending
cons, and Dann lives in Australia... So who do I wind up sitting next
to for an hour at the Dreamhaven autograph party? ...Jack Dann ;-(
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In article <20031224111759.14429.00001510.DeleteThis@mb-m14.aol.com>, mtsaler.DeleteThis@aol.com
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> As a collector of "true firsts," I used to avoid Easton Press, but I've been
> gradually won over by them and have bought some of their other non-limited
> editions because of the overall appeal of the book design. They've just
> published the Howard Pyle illustrated "King Arthur" series in a beautiful
> leather edition, complete with all the illustrations. I doubt this
edition will
> ever be truly collectable, unlike the original firsts, but to my eye it is
> lovely.
>
> Mike
Their web site is genuinely awful! From what I can see of them, the King
Arthur books do look lovely. Out of my price range! But the Easton
editions are probably durable enough for generations to read.
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>> I think you're just getting into deeper confusion here. Tipped in
>> does not mean bound in.
>> Tipped in is not quite synonymous with pasted in. Strictly
>> speaking, if something has been tipped in it has been loosely stuck
>> in, often just along.. one edge, whereas pasted in implies that the
>> entire back surface of the material has been glued to the book.
>> However, the distinction is somewhat confusing (suppose, for example,
>> the entire surface was glued down but with gum, not paste?) and often
>> not observed. If you're buying online or from a catalogue, and if the
>> exact manner in which the material has been attached to the book is
>> important, it's as well to ask the seller for precise details.
> John,
>
> I'm not sure that is 100% correct. I thought "tipped in" simply
> means that the sheet was not part of the original signatures. This
> is how the printer (Sfera) for the Vance Integral Edition project
> I'm working on described our limitation pages, which will be bound
> in with the signatures, and not pasted in later. The distinction of
> being "pasted along one edge" as opposed to fully is to me not
> important. The fact that a sheet was bound in by the publisher is,
> as it "guarantees" that the publisher did it.
>
....
Probably the most common occurances of "tipped in" material, are cancels,
and errata and addenda, the latter of which can occupy either entire
pages, or a small slip. And all of which are usually, but not always,
tipped in after, rather than before the binding is completed.
The very phrase "tipped in" seems to imply a light touch - as is
confirmed by Carter in the ABC -
TIPPED IN -
"Lightly attached, by gum or paste, usually at the inner edge".
michael adams
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