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wgregcox

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:28 pm
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Okay, I know they didn't have food replicators back in Archer's and Kirk's era,
but I seem to remember them mentioning something similar on "Enterprise."
Anyone remember what term they used? "Food converter?" "Food generator?"
Whatever?


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:28 pm
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"Wgregcox" <wgregcox.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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 > Okay, I know they didn't have food replicators back in Archer's and Kirk's
era,
 > but I seem to remember them mentioning something similar on "Enterprise."
 > Anyone remember what term they used? "Food converter?" "Food generator?"
 > Whatever?
 >
 >
 > Greg Cox
 > Coming in July: TALES OF THE DOMINION WAR

Protein Sequencer, I believe.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:06 pm
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Wow! Thanks for the fast response.

Just finishing up the third Khan book, btw. My plan is to deliver it to Pocket
by the end of the week.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 11:06 pm
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in article 20040324150639.13910.00000021.TakeThisOut@mb-m10.aol.com, Wgregcox at
wgregcox.TakeThisOut@aol.com wrote on 03/24/2004 2:06 PM:

 > Wow! Thanks for the fast response.
 >
 > Just finishing up the third Khan book, btw. My plan is to deliver it to
 > Pocket by the end of the week.

You're writing Trek books and you have to ask a beginner's question like
that? Are you actually a published Trek writer?

Kee-rist! Glad I quit reading Trek books...

 > Greg Cox
 > Coming in July: TALES OF THE DOMINION WAR

Is that anything like "Tales from The Far Side"?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:03 am
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Hey, it's an ENTERPRISE question! There's not many ENTERPRISE-era reference
books out there! Smile

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:03 am
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in article 20040324170324.14438.00000030 DeleteThis @mb-m10.aol.com, Wgregcox at
wgregcox DeleteThis @aol.com wrote on 03/24/2004 4:03 PM:

 > Hey, it's an ENTERPRISE question! There's not many ENTERPRISE-era reference
 > books out there! Smile
 >
 > Greg Cox
 > Coming in July: TALES OF THE DOMINION WAR

Bog, I hope there will never be any Enterprise books.

Won't someone think of the trees?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 1:03 am
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Ignore that Greg, I for one can't wait for book 3 in the series. What is
the eta for the shelves?

"Elvis Gump" <elvisgump.DeleteThis@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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 > in article 20040324170324.14438.00000030.DeleteThis@mb-m10.aol.com, Wgregcox at
 > wgregcox.DeleteThis@aol.com wrote on 03/24/2004 4:03 PM:
 >
  > > Hey, it's an ENTERPRISE question! There's not many ENTERPRISE-era
reference
  > > books out there! Smile
  > >
  > > Greg Cox
  > > Coming in July: TALES OF THE DOMINION WAR
 >
 > Bog, I hope there will never be any Enterprise books.
 >
 > Won't someone think of the trees?
 > --
 > "This paperback is very interesting, but I find it will never replace a
 > hardcover book - it makes a very poor doorstop."
 > -- Alfred Hitchcock
 >
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:05 am
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In article <BC874DE7.92C%elvisgump@NOhotmailSPAM.com>, Elvis Gump
<elvisgump.RemoveThis@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote:

 > in article 20040324150639.13910.00000021.RemoveThis@mb-m10.aol.com, Wgregcox at
 > wgregcox.RemoveThis@aol.com wrote on 03/24/2004 2:06 PM:
 >
  > > Wow! Thanks for the fast response.
  > >
  > > Just finishing up the third Khan book, btw. My plan is to deliver it to
  > > Pocket by the end of the week.
 >
 > You're writing Trek books and you have to ask a beginner's question like
 > that? Are you actually a published Trek writer?
 >
 > Kee-rist! Glad I quit reading Trek books...


Yah, God forbid he should ask a simple, polite question. A tool like
you might get all bent out of shape about it.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 3:44 am
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in article 250320040005413080%affable@no.com.invalid, Mr. Personality at
affable RemoveThis @no.com.invalid wrote on 03/24/2004 11:05 PM:

 > In article <BC874DE7.92C%elvisgump@NOhotmailSPAM.com>, Elvis Gump
 > <elvisgump RemoveThis @NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote:
 >
  >> in article 20040324150639.13910.00000021 RemoveThis @mb-m10.aol.com, Wgregcox at
  >> wgregcox RemoveThis @aol.com wrote on 03/24/2004 2:06 PM:
  >>
   >>> Wow! Thanks for the fast response.
   >>>
   >>> Just finishing up the third Khan book, btw. My plan is to deliver it to
   >>> Pocket by the end of the week.
  >>
  >> You're writing Trek books and you have to ask a beginner's question like
  >> that? Are you actually a published Trek writer?
  >>
  >> Kee-rist! Glad I quit reading Trek books...

 > Yah, God forbid he should ask a simple, polite question. A tool like
 > you might get all bent out of shape about it.

Right. Well, I finally placed who he was, that guy that was interviewed and
passed off as an 'extra' feature on the Wrath of Khan DVD.

Pardon me, but I remember listening to him explain how he was going to weave
a story out of the mish-mash of nonsense that was Khan's 'back story' and
glad I was saved the otherwise momentary curiosity I might have had seeing
it in the bookstore and actually buying it.

I don't know anything about the guy. He seems well groomed from what I
remember seeing him on tee-vee. Maybe he's the politest guy ever to walk the
face of the Earth, making Gandhi look like a brutish lout. If he's offended
I apologize like hell.

But Enterprise is dreck pawned off on the fans as though it belonged in the
Trek universe merely to enrich Paramount's stockholders. As well as most of
the Trek books that I pass by on the store and despair about.

I'm delighted whenever someone sells their book really it's a monumental
feat, but don't automatically expect me to jump for joy to want to read it.

We all can't be Mr. Personality after all.
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words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people
who must use the words."
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 6:24 am
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Last I heard, we're talking January 2005. Thanks for asking!

Greg
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:55 am
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With regards to the post below I thought it was a "Protein Re-sequencer"
using the same type of system that they use to recycle the human waste into
more useful items.

And it's actually the cook who cooks all the food, the re-sequencer is only
used to create the raw materials for cooking.

Surprised) Just thought I'd add my 2 cents worth.....

"Justin Hilyard" <rpg RemoveThis @eoni.com> wrote in message
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 > "Wgregcox" <wgregcox RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
 > news:20040324142819.10731.00000017@mb-m26.aol.com...
  > > Okay, I know they didn't have food replicators back in Archer's and
Kirk's
 > era,
  > > but I seem to remember them mentioning something similar on
"Enterprise."
  > > Anyone remember what term they used? "Food converter?" "Food
generator?"
  > > Whatever?
  > >
  > >
  > > Greg Cox
  > > Coming in July: TALES OF THE DOMINION WAR
 >
 > Protein Sequencer, I believe.
 >
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:55 am
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In article <s2M8c.819$eg6.92@newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net>, ntl: Victim
<ntl.victim RemoveThis @ntlworld.com> wrote:

 > With regards to the post below I thought it was a "Protein Re-sequencer"
 > using the same type of system that they use to recycle the human waste into
 > more useful items.

IIRC the reference was in turning poop into boots. I got the idea that
the protein resequencer was used to produce durable goods, not
consumables. The reference to boots meant, I thought, that they could
turn out synthetic leather. It made a certain amount of sense to me to
use organic mass to do that.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:55 am
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"ntl: Victim" <ntl.victim.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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 > With regards to the post below I thought it was a "Protein Re-sequencer"
 > using the same type of system that they use to recycle the human waste
into
 > more useful items.
 >
 > And it's actually the cook who cooks all the food, the re-sequencer is
only
 > used to create the raw materials for cooking.
 >
 > Surprised) Just thought I'd add my 2 cents worth.....

Now that I think about it, I think you're right for the term used. Thanks
for the correction.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 4:55 am
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"Mr. Personality" <affable.RemoveThis@no.com.invalid> wrote in message
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 > In article <s2M8c.819$eg6.92@newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net>, ntl: Victim
 > <ntl.victim.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com> wrote:
 >
  > > With regards to the post below I thought it was a "Protein Re-sequencer"
  > > using the same type of system that they use to recycle the human waste
into
  > > more useful items.
 >
 > IIRC the reference was in turning poop into boots. I got the idea that
 > the protein resequencer was used to produce durable goods, not
 > consumables. The reference to boots meant, I thought, that they could
 > turn out synthetic leather. It made a certain amount of sense to me to
 > use organic mass to do that.

Didn't think about it like that, but that makes sense. Are you sure the
term was never used to refer to food production in another episode, though?
I get the feeling it might have been in the episode with the automated
repair station, when they were talking about its more advanced version.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:43 pm
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In article <1067uvufs3l473f.TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com>, Justin Hilyard
<rpg.TakeThisOut@eoni.com> wrote:

 > "Mr. Personality" <affable.TakeThisOut@no.com.invalid> wrote in message
 > news:250320042357248329%affable@no.com.invalid...
  > > In article <s2M8c.819$eg6.92@newsfe1-gui.server.ntli.net>, ntl: Victim
  > > <ntl.victim.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote:
  > >
   > > > With regards to the post below I thought it was a "Protein Re-sequencer"
   > > > using the same type of system that they use to recycle the human waste
 > into
   > > > more useful items.
  > >
  > > IIRC the reference was in turning poop into boots. I got the idea that
  > > the protein resequencer was used to produce durable goods, not
  > > consumables. The reference to boots meant, I thought, that they could
  > > turn out synthetic leather. It made a certain amount of sense to me to
  > > use organic mass to do that.
 >
 > Didn't think about it like that, but that makes sense. Are you sure the
 > term was never used to refer to food production in another episode, though?
 > I get the feeling it might have been in the episode with the automated
 > repair station, when they were talking about its more advanced version.
 >

No, I'm not sure. Long gone are the days when I'd watch a Star Trek
episode fifteen times and memorize everything. Now Greg Cox says they
use the resequencer to make different flavors of ice cream, and I'm
sure he's right about that, but I just don't see the logic of it. But
it's so Star Trek, this technobabbling. It would have been much more
interesting to me to see them use these organics in farming a crop
aboard the ship. I mean, the ship is gone for months at a time, and it
makes perfect sense for them to try to raise (for instance) fresh
vegetables on a little farm somewhere below. It would be the kind of
thing you could reasonably expect a first-generation starship would do.
Instead, they came up with another undefined gadget and ask me to
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