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nobody22

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:40 am
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I dropped this book at issue #36 because I was low on funds at the time and
couldn't keep up with everything every month.


Anyway, I'm wondering.... wouldn't the Timebroker have to be Merlin? or
Roma? or Saturnyne? or one of their agents? or one of their enemies? or
apply any and all of that to Brian Braddock, now that he's king of
Otherworld and all that jazz.


anyway, have any of the above shown up in Exiles? seems like the whole
premise of the series would be right up their jurisdiction. or something
that would certainly at least draw their attention as a problem, depending
on whether they're actually fixing things or mucking them up.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:40 am
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Aaron Forever wrote:
 > I dropped this book at issue #36 because I was low on funds at the
time and
 > couldn't keep up with everything every month.
 >
 >
 > Anyway, I'm wondering.... wouldn't the Timebroker have to be Merlin?
or
 > Roma? or Saturnyne? or one of their agents? or one of their enemies?
or
 > apply any and all of that to Brian Braddock, now that he's king of
 > Otherworld and all that jazz.
 >
 >
 > anyway, have any of the above shown up in Exiles? seems like the
whole
 > premise of the series would be right up their jurisdiction. or
something
 > that would certainly at least draw their attention as a problem,
depending
 > on whether they're actually fixing things or mucking them up.

Im still convinced the timebroker is really Immortius. The more I think
about it, the more it just kinda feels right and can loosly fit in
with avengers forever.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:40 am
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Aaron Forever wrote:
 > I dropped this book at issue #36 because I was low on funds at the
time and
 > couldn't keep up with everything every month.
 >
 > Anyway, I'm wondering.... wouldn't the Timebroker have to be Merlin?
or
 > Roma? or Saturnyne? or one of their agents? or one of their enemies?
or
 > apply any and all of that to Brian Braddock, now that he's king of
 > Otherworld and all that jazz.

"Have to be?" I don't think so. They certainly could be, but the Marvel
Multiverse is replete with timeline-manipulating types. The one thing
that makes me doubt any connection to Otherworld is that there's
apparently a connection to the "Age of Apocalypse" timeline.

 > anyway, have any of the above shown up in Exiles? seems like the
whole
 > premise of the series would be right up their jurisdiction. or
something
 > that would certainly at least draw their attention as a problem,
depending
 > on whether they're actually fixing things or mucking them up.

They haven't appeared. *A* Captain Britain appeared in the early-20s,
but not the one we know and love.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:40 pm
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The Black Guardian wrote:
 > Aaron Forever wrote:
 >
  >>I dropped this book at issue #36 because I was low on funds at the
 >
 > time and
 >
  >>couldn't keep up with everything every month.
  >>
  >>Anyway, I'm wondering.... wouldn't the Timebroker have to be Merlin?
 >
 > or
 >
  >>Roma? or Saturnyne? or one of their agents? or one of their enemies?
 >
 > or
 >
  >>apply any and all of that to Brian Braddock, now that he's king of
  >>Otherworld and all that jazz.
 >
 >
 > "Have to be?" I don't think so. They certainly could be, but the Marvel
 > Multiverse is replete with timeline-manipulating types. The one thing
 > that makes me doubt any connection to Otherworld is that there's
 > apparently a connection to the "Age of Apocalypse" timeline.
 >
 >
  >>anyway, have any of the above shown up in Exiles? seems like the
 >
 > whole
 >
  >>premise of the series would be right up their jurisdiction. or
 >
 > something
 >
  >>that would certainly at least draw their attention as a problem,
 >
 > depending
 >
  >>on whether they're actually fixing things or mucking them up.
 >
 >
 > They haven't appeared. *A* Captain Britain appeared in the early-20s,
 > but not the one we know and love.
 >

After the Age of Apocalypse arc in Exiles #60 and further, a story about
the Timebroker (Timebreakers) is planned which hopefully reveals the
whole truth behind the Timebroker.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:21 pm
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Timebroker could be James Hudson, or Xavier.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:40 pm
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<dsciswe.RemoveThis@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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 > Timebroker could be James Hudson, or Xavier.
 >

Maybe the Timebroker is one of Beak's kids. That's why it is so important
to bring Beak into the story. During Morrison's run did they have some
special purpose in the future?

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:40 pm
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:37:35 +0900, "Patrick McClue"
<mcclue RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

 >
 ><dsciswe RemoveThis @sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
 >news:1110507684.509917.36260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
  >> Timebroker could be James Hudson, or Xavier.
  >>
 >
 >Maybe the Timebroker is one of Beak's kids. That's why it is so important
 >to bring Beak into the story. During Morrison's run did they have some
 >special purpose in the future?

Well, his grandson (Rico?) wielded a titanium baseball bat and got
killed by Beast-Sublime. Other than that there wasn't really anything
mentioned.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Rayeye

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:40 am
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Jeremy Henderson wrote:
 > On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:37:35 +0900, "Patrick McClue"
 > <mcclue DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
 >
  >><dsciswe DeleteThis @sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
  >>news:1110507684.509917.36260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
  >>
   >>>Timebroker could be James Hudson, or Xavier.
   >>>
  >>
  >>Maybe the Timebroker is one of Beak's kids. That's why it is so important
  >>to bring Beak into the story. During Morrison's run did they have some
  >>special purpose in the future?
 >
 >
 > Well, his grandson (Rico?) wielded a titanium baseball bat and got
 > killed by Beast-Sublime. Other than that there wasn't really anything
 > mentioned.

His grandson was called Tito.
But in the mainstream reality one of Beak's kids was also called Tito.
So that would make his grandson Tito jr.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:40 am
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"Rayeye" <r.p.graner RemoveThis @wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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 > Jeremy Henderson wrote:
  > > On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:37:35 +0900, "Patrick McClue"
  > > <mcclue RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
  > >
  > >
   > >><dsciswe RemoveThis @sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
   > >>news:1110507684.509917.36260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
   > >>
   > >>>Timebroker could be James Hudson, or Xavier.
   > >>>
   > >>
   > >>Maybe the Timebroker is one of Beak's kids. That's why it is so
important
   > >>to bring Beak into the story. During Morrison's run did they have some
   > >>special purpose in the future?
  > >
  > >
  > > Well, his grandson (Rico?) wielded a titanium baseball bat and got
  > > killed by Beast-Sublime. Other than that there wasn't really anything
  > > mentioned.
 >
 > His grandson was called Tito.
 > But in the mainstream reality one of Beak's kids was also called Tito.
 > So that would make his grandson Tito jr.
 >

That's assuming the older Tito was his father. He could just as easily have
been an uncle.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:40 am
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"Rayeye" <r.p.graner.RemoveThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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 > Jeremy Henderson wrote:
  > > On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:37:35 +0900, "Patrick McClue"
  > > <mcclue.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
  > >
  > >
   > >><dsciswe.RemoveThis@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
   > >>news:1110507684.509917.36260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
   > >>
   > >>>Timebroker could be James Hudson, or Xavier.
   > >>>
   > >>
   > >>Maybe the Timebroker is one of Beak's kids. That's why it is so
important
   > >>to bring Beak into the story. During Morrison's run did they have some
   > >>special purpose in the future?
  > >
  > >
  > > Well, his grandson (Rico?) wielded a titanium baseball bat and got
  > > killed by Beast-Sublime. Other than that there wasn't really anything
  > > mentioned.
 >
 > His grandson was called Tito.
 > But in the mainstream reality one of Beak's kids was also called Tito.
 > So that would make his grandson Tito jr.


Beak probably has several grandsons, with names like 3T, Prince, Paris,
Blanket and Jermajesty...... LOL<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:40 pm
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Rayeye <r.p.graner.TakeThisOut@wanadoo.nl> wrote in
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 > Jeremy Henderson wrote:

  >> Well, his grandson (Rico?) wielded a titanium baseball bat and got
  >> killed by Beast-Sublime. Other than that there wasn't really anything
  >> mentioned.
 >
 > His grandson was called Tito.
 > But in the mainstream reality one of Beak's kids was also called Tito.
 > So that would make his grandson Tito jr.

Not necessarily. Beak and Angel had an awful lot of children. Tito in
HCT could be the newphew of Beak's son Tito.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:40 am
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In article <IidXd.105426$tl3.9260@attbi_s02>, Aaron Forever
<nobody DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:

 > I dropped this book at issue #36 because I was low on funds at the time and
 > couldn't keep up with everything every month.
 >
 >
 > Anyway, I'm wondering.... wouldn't the Timebroker have to be Merlin? or
 > Roma? or Saturnyne? or one of their agents? or one of their enemies? or
 > apply any and all of that to Brian Braddock, now that he's king of
 > Otherworld and all that jazz.
 >
 >
 > anyway, have any of the above shown up in Exiles? seems like the whole
 > premise of the series would be right up their jurisdiction. or something
 > that would certainly at least draw their attention as a problem, depending
 > on whether they're actually fixing things or mucking them up.
 >
 >

I'd love to see the Exiles and Excalibur have some kind of contact,
since I loved that book. I know early on Excalibur went on a train ride
to many other realities. Maybe that train team and the Exiles could
arrive on the same world, with contrary missions. But I don't think the
Timebroker is Merlin or from otherworld. Merlin was a 'governor' of
time, while the Timebroker's powers seem more godlike. However, using
Exiles to change time does suggest there are other beings watching him,
preventing him from acting openly, so in typical cold-war fashion, he
uses a third party.

I'd love to see the Exiles get more attention from Marvel, such as Ltd.
additions and specials. It's a great series with unique characters. It
appeals to new readers, but also really hits older readers who remember
the classic stories they visit, or fell in love with AOA's Blink and
Morph. If you love Rouge or Wolverine or such, they turn up in other
books, specials and crossovers. If you love Mimic, Exiles is all you
get.

It's also waaaay past time from them to do something with Beak.
{preferably involving some type of gruesome death Wink } Most people
don't like him, and he's got no real power, but I can live with that.
Everyone doesn't have to be powerhouse. They could have Morph's
grandmother with them, and it would still work if she was a good part
of a story. Beak is pointless. Namara too for that matter. Nocture at
least was more than just eye-candy. How do those clam-shells stay on,
anyway? Wink

They really need to shake up the book. It's lost that
'anything-could-happen' feel it once had. It's also much more
youth-friendly then in used to be. Early issues had death, love,
murders, romance, and sexual tensionŠ Sunfire was gay, Morph was horny,
Nocture may have gotten an abortion. Now it's just the problem of the
week, with very little character growth.

It's still a great book, I'd just like to see them do more with this
great concept. I'm also scared it will get the axe if they don't pull
in more readers.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:45 am
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Aaron Forever wrote:
 > I dropped this book at issue #36 because I was low on funds at the
time and
 > couldn't keep up with everything every month.
 >
 >
 > Anyway, I'm wondering.... wouldn't the Timebroker have to be Merlin?
or
 > Roma? or Saturnyne? or one of their agents? or one of their enemies?
or
 > apply any and all of that to Brian Braddock, now that he's king of
 > Otherworld and all that jazz.
 >
 >
 > anyway, have any of the above shown up in Exiles? seems like the
whole
 > premise of the series would be right up their jurisdiction. or
something
 > that would certainly at least draw their attention as a problem,
depending
 > on whether they're actually fixing things or mucking them up.

Someone mentioned we've had Captain Britain, but that doesn't seem to
have left a strong impression with me. I mentioned before I'm now
betting on Mojo /or/ Apocalypse (figuratively speaking), or someone
from either of their worlds - they've now been to both - with the side
angle that the Exiles' activities up to now may have changed the
timestreams enough to allow the Age of Apocalypse still to exist
instead of being cancelled. For that matter, since the current mission
is to kill the X-Men before they come after AOA Sinister, it could be
Sinister. On the other hand, "Kill Mimic" may turn out to be a
meaningful, but not helpful, description of something that they
actually have to do - probably not their own Mimic, unless he's
mimicking someone with a resurrect-himself power at the time such as
Resurrection Man (okay, he's DC) or Mr. Immortal, but Mimic in one of
the alternate worlds.

Indeed, different people at different times could be turning up in the
Timebroker role, as a psychic hologram. While Apocalypse had the
M'Kraan Crystal, it was him. Later, it was Sinister? And whoever it
is is getting to seem kind of nuts...

Whoever the Timebreakers are, they or their project do have to be big
enough for the Celestials to bother to warn Blink about them.
Celestials aren't chatty, and prefer to let people play things out for
themselves. One interpretation, I think, is that the Celestials are
the thoughts of Eternity himself.

We may actually "find out" - that is, we may get a plausible story
which might even have been planned as of _Exiles_ #1. But I'm not
counting on any or all of that. If they tell us everything then will
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