Fighting step

"Lucas Moreno" <lucas.moreno.DeleteThis@bluewin.ch> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have a question about the following passage: "... Lord Tamman charged the
>enemy's flank. The fighting step was wide enough for five men abreast, but
>there was no one beside him, for he'd outdistanced them all..."
>
>Hmm.... Up to now, I thought "fighting step" was like "front line", but it
>doesn't match this context. What is "fighting step" here? The terrain is
>wide here, so I don't see any limitation to it (specially not something as
>narrow as "wide enough for five men abreast").
>
>Thanks so much in advance for any help!
>
>Lucas
>
>

The "fighting step" is the walkway behind the parapet (the parapet is
the earthen wall that protects you from enemy fire). The "fighting
step" is where you stand to shoot at the enemy (through the embrasures
which are the lower parts of the parapet).
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So if I understand well, Tamman has got to run all the way along this
"fighting step" behind the parapet in order to take the enemy (that is
coming from straight ahead) from the flank. Is this right, Steve?

Thank you,

Lucas
"Steve Osmanski" <steveosmanski.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> a écrit dans le message de
news: 4498af5a.76858279.TakeThisOut@newsgroups.comcast.net...
> "Lucas Moreno" <lucas.moreno.TakeThisOut@bluewin.ch> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have a question about the following passage: "... Lord Tamman charged
>>the
>>enemy's flank. The fighting step was wide enough for five men abreast, but
>>there was no one beside him, for he'd outdistanced them all..."
>>
>>Hmm.... Up to now, I thought "fighting step" was like "front line", but it
>>doesn't match this context. What is "fighting step" here? The terrain is
>>wide here, so I don't see any limitation to it (specially not something as
>>narrow as "wide enough for five men abreast").
>>
>>Thanks so much in advance for any help!
>>
>>Lucas
>>
>>
>
> The "fighting step" is the walkway behind the parapet (the parapet is
> the earthen wall that protects you from enemy fire). The "fighting
> step" is where you stand to shoot at the enemy (through the embrasures
> which are the lower parts of the parapet).
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Lucas Moreno wrote:
> So if I understand well, Tamman has got to run all the way along this
> "fighting step" behind the parapet in order to take the enemy (that is
> coming from straight ahead) from the flank. Is this right, Steve?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Lucas
> "Steve Osmanski" <steveosmanski.RemoveThis@comcast.net> a écrit dans le message de
> news: 4498af5a.76858279.RemoveThis@newsgroups.comcast.net...
>> "Lucas Moreno" <lucas.moreno.RemoveThis@bluewin.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a question about the following passage: "... Lord Tamman charged
>>> the
>>> enemy's flank. The fighting step was wide enough for five men abreast, but
>>> there was no one beside him, for he'd outdistanced them all..."
>>>
>>> Hmm.... Up to now, I thought "fighting step" was like "front line", but it
>>> doesn't match this context. What is "fighting step" here? The terrain is
>>> wide here, so I don't see any limitation to it (specially not something as
>>> narrow as "wide enough for five men abreast").
>>>
>>> Thanks so much in advance for any help!
>>>
>>> Lucas
>>>
>>>
>> The "fighting step" is the walkway behind the parapet (the parapet is
>> the earthen wall that protects you from enemy fire). The "fighting
>> step" is where you stand to shoot at the enemy (through the embrasures
>> which are the lower parts of the parapet).
>
>
Except, aren't the Temple Guard behind the parapet and Tamman and the
Malagorans are the ones coming over the wall?

Can't find my copy of Heirs of Empire right now (I suspect it's in the
pile of books beside my bed), but that is my recollection of the situation.
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No, Tamman and the Malagorans are the ones behind the parapet. You're maybe
thinking about the following battle...

Lucas

"Marc Reeve" <cram.DeleteThis@got.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
e7cvue01t9n.DeleteThis@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Lucas Moreno wrote:
>> So if I understand well, Tamman has got to run all the way along this
>> "fighting step" behind the parapet in order to take the enemy (that is
>> coming from straight ahead) from the flank. Is this right, Steve?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Lucas
>> "Steve Osmanski" <steveosmanski.DeleteThis@comcast.net> a écrit dans le message de
>> news: 4498af5a.76858279.DeleteThis@newsgroups.comcast.net...
>>> "Lucas Moreno" <lucas.moreno.DeleteThis@bluewin.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a question about the following passage: "... Lord Tamman charged
>>>> the
>>>> enemy's flank. The fighting step was wide enough for five men abreast,
>>>> but
>>>> there was no one beside him, for he'd outdistanced them all..."
>>>>
>>>> Hmm.... Up to now, I thought "fighting step" was like "front line", but
>>>> it
>>>> doesn't match this context. What is "fighting step" here? The terrain
>>>> is
>>>> wide here, so I don't see any limitation to it (specially not something
>>>> as
>>>> narrow as "wide enough for five men abreast").
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much in advance for any help!
>>>>
>>>> Lucas
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The "fighting step" is the walkway behind the parapet (the parapet is
>>> the earthen wall that protects you from enemy fire). The "fighting
>>> step" is where you stand to shoot at the enemy (through the embrasures
>>> which are the lower parts of the parapet).
>>
>>
> Except, aren't the Temple Guard behind the parapet and Tamman and the
> Malagorans are the ones coming over the wall?
>
> Can't find my copy of Heirs of Empire right now (I suspect it's in the
> pile of books beside my bed), but that is my recollection of the
> situation.
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"Lucas Moreno" <lucas.moreno.TakeThisOut@bluewin.ch> wrote:

>So if I understand well, Tamman has got to run all the way along this
>"fighting step" behind the parapet in order to take the enemy (that is
>coming from straight ahead) from the flank. Is this right, Steve?

You've got it. The Guard troops had broken through the Malagoran line
to Tamman's left, which means that a column of Guard troops was past
the parapet (and fighting step) and driving the Malagorans back.
Tamman led (outran, really) his troops into the flank of the enemy
column.
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I said maybe because DW is free to change his mind and I don't have a clue
as to how this plays out.



Maybe spoiler or just speculation.




















DW in posts has come on strong about how important Beowulf is. In a way I
agree but I've never seen anything in any story that suggested they had a
military that amounted to jack. They may be a high tech research center and
best buddies with Manticore but when have they shown up in any way connected
with anything military?

If they'd had much to show they might at least have sent something through
the portal when Manitocore looked to be about to go under to try and control
both sides of their wormhole.

They have bad blood with Mesa. They may not be all that happy with the SL
because to many systems have good relations with Mesa. DW has made a point
of saying they can leave the SL and become a full member of the SKM because
they have a terminal in their system. They are most likely a center of
influence within the SL and what they do others may follow. They still look
like a weak sister but they most likely do have cash, ship yards maybe, and
they certainly do have educated citizens that could be trained to use high
tech warships. DW has almost said that they have some sort of small navy
that is more modern than FF.

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DW has posted a note that's meant to tease. Basicly it said that Manpower
does not have a Bolthole and with the Mesa Navy what you see is what you get
then he says but notice the way I said that. The obvious impilicaton is that
somewhere Mesa & friends has a ship yard cranking out warships to be used by
themselves and their allies.

1. Questions would include how good are they?

Mesa had several Republic SS ships working for them and may still have a
few. That is not latest tech but it should be more than enough to mean they
could beat up the SLN with no problems. I don't think they would have
copied, rather they would have studied and built better using better tech.
In practice what does that mean? Oh yes the SS should have been able to give
them dump truck loads of data about what Manitcore could do to them.

2. How are they crewed?

The scum of the Universe comes to mind but this may be badly underestimating
them.

3. How many ships?

One would think several hundred large hulls? Let us say SD sized?

What's the game plan?

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Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but "Lucas Moreno"
<lucas.moreno DeleteThis @bluewin.ch> wrote on Tue, 20 Jun 2006 16:57:05 +0200 in
alt.books.david-weber :
>Hi,
>
>I have a question about the following passage: "... Lord Tamman charged the
>enemy's flank. The fighting step was wide enough for five men abreast, but
>there was no one beside him, for he'd outdistanced them all..."
>
>Hmm.... Up to now, I thought "fighting step" was like "front line", but it
>doesn't match this context. What is "fighting step" here? The terrain is
>wide here, so I don't see any limitation to it (specially not something as
>narrow as "wide enough for five men abreast").
>

A fighting step is at the base of a wall, which lets soldiers "step up"
and fire over the wall, then step back down and out of the line of sight
(and any return fire). It would also be an alcove dug into the side of a
trench on the "front" side, where soldiers could step "up" to shoot.

How it fits into the context of this story, I don't know, my copies are
buried in the boxes. Sorry.




>Thanks so much in advance for any help!
>
>Lucas
>
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