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laney21

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:23 am
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.... and I have to say that it's a well crafted end to the series.

I have a few questions/thoughts ......................


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Ok,

1. How did Neville get the sword? Last time I saw it, the
double-crossing goblin had it.

2. Love how JK got it both ways: Voldemort kills Harry AND Harry
kills Voldemort!

3. I agree with some reviewers that the travelling all around the
countryside middle was not exactly dull, but it sure plodded.

4. The "19 years later" ending was disappointing. After all the
buildup to Harry's career choice in earlier books, I would like to
have found out what he was doing with himself, aside from having kids.
Ok, Neville's a professor ... what about Luna? Hagrid? Cho? etc etc
etc etc

5. Poor Snape. All those pages wandering the countryside, and his
redemption is via a massive flashback. (I knew it all along! <wink>)

6. I don't know about you, but the final battle struck me as terribly
Return of the Jedi Ewok battle ... centaurs, hippogriffs, House Elves,
you name it, they were in there at the end.

7. GO Mrs. Weasley!! Beatrix got what was coming to her.

8. How did Draco get the Hallows wand again?

9. <feel free to add>

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Barry Ruck

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:11 pm
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Rhino 7 wrote:
> ... and I have to say that it's a well crafted end to the series.
>
> I have a few questions/thoughts ......................
>
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> Ok,
>
> 1. How did Neville get the sword? Last time I saw it, the
> double-crossing goblin had it.

The Sorting hat acted as a magical conduit as it did in Chamber of
Secrets

>
> 2. Love how JK got it both ways: Voldemort kills Harry AND Harry
> kills Voldemort!

Not really happy with this.

>
> 3. I agree with some reviewers that the travelling all around the
> countryside middle was not exactly dull, but it sure plodded.
>

I feel she lost the plot in Grimmauld Place, then again in the Forest
of Dean. I wonder if she was too close to her deadline to rewrite it.


> 4. The "19 years later" ending was disappointing. After all the
> buildup to Harry's career choice in earlier books, I would like to
> have found out what he was doing with himself, aside from having
kids.
> Ok, Neville's a professor ... what about Luna? Hagrid? Cho? etc
etc
> etc etc
>


JKR gave a lot more details about what might have been in the epilogue
in an interview:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/

(link snagged from Adam-Troy Castro's newsgroup.)



> 5. Poor Snape. All those pages wandering the countryside, and his
> redemption is via a massive flashback. (I knew it all along!
<wink>)

It certainly explains much of what has gone on before.

>
> 6. I don't know about you, but the final battle struck me as
terribly
> Return of the Jedi Ewok battle ... centaurs, hippogriffs, House
Elves,
> you name it, they were in there at the end.
>
> 7. GO Mrs. Weasley!! Beatrix got what was coming to her.

And I always thought Hermionie would be the one to do the deed.

>
> 8. How did Draco get the Hallows wand again?

He dissarmed Dumbledore in The Halfblood Prince. Dumbledore had got
the wand from Grindelwald.

>
> 9. <feel free to add>
>
> The Bookwurm

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:50 am
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:23:41 -0700, Rhino 7 <laney2.DeleteThis@comfishcast.net> wrote:

>... and I have to say that it's a well crafted end to the series.
>
>I have a few questions/thoughts ......................
>
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>Ok,
>
>1. How did Neville get the sword? Last time I saw it, the
>double-crossing goblin had it.

As pointed out, the Sorting Hat had already shown it could do this back in
Chamber of Secrets.

>2. Love how JK got it both ways: Voldemort kills Harry AND Harry
>kills Voldemort!

>3. I agree with some reviewers that the travelling all around the
>countryside middle was not exactly dull, but it sure plodded.
>
>4. The "19 years later" ending was disappointing. After all the
>buildup to Harry's career choice in earlier books, I would like to
>have found out what he was doing with himself, aside from having kids.
>Ok, Neville's a professor ... what about Luna? Hagrid? Cho? etc etc
>etc etc

Per her Today Show interview with Merdedith Viera, Hermoine, Ron, and Harry
all work in the Ministry of Magic. Harry is head of the Aurors, and Ron is
an Auror. Hermoine is high up in Department of Magical Law Enforcement.
Luna is a naturalist, travelling the world for unique supernatural species.
Rowling also said that on reflection, she spoke too hastily back when she
said that Luna and Neville wouldn't be a couple, a couple of years ago. She
didn't say whether or not Ginny was working (she wouldn't have to, of
course, it was established all the way back in the first book that on the
wizarding side, Harry is filthy rich).

As for the epilogue, this was my prediction on the final scene of the 7th
book from a couple of years ago.

It would take place on platform 9 3/4, it would be 12 or 13 years in the
future, and it would feature Lilly Molly Potter boarding the Hogwarts
Express the first time. I got the actual details a little wrong (it was 19
years, and it was Lilly's older brother boarding the train), but still...



>5. Poor Snape. All those pages wandering the countryside, and his
>redemption is via a massive flashback. (I knew it all along! <wink>)
>
>6. I don't know about you, but the final battle struck me as terribly
>Return of the Jedi Ewok battle ... centaurs, hippogriffs, House Elves,
>you name it, they were in there at the end.
>
>7. GO Mrs. Weasley!! Beatrix got what was coming to her.
>
>8. How did Draco get the Hallows wand again?
>
>9. <feel free to add>
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:05 am
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Rhino 7 wrote:
> ... and I have to say that it's a well crafted end to the series.
>
> I have a few questions/thoughts ......................

We went to KMart on Saturday the 21st and got our copy. The hardest part
was asking two shoppers who were jabbering to move - actually we just
said "excuse me" and they scooted a bit.

My son started reading it Sunday, I started with book 1 on Tuesday. I
will still probably be done with books 1 -> 6 before he finishes 7.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:15 am
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>> ... and I have to say that it's a well crafted end to the series.
>>
>> I have a few questions/thoughts ......................
>
> We went to KMart on Saturday the 21st and got our copy. The hardest part
> was asking two shoppers who were jabbering to move - actually we just
> said "excuse me" and they scooted a bit.
>
> My son started reading it Sunday, I started with book 1 on Tuesday. I
> will still probably be done with books 1 -> 6 before he finishes 7.

My son just said he will probably finish #7 tonight. Even he admits that
is unusual, he figured he would take weeks to read it but it is
engrossed more than usual.

>
>> The Bookwurm
>> --
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>> Keeper of the BotRoM
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>> <spam trapped - remove the fish from address>
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>


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:40 am
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Rhino 7 wrote:
> ... and I have to say that it's a well crafted end to the series.
>
> I have a few questions/thoughts ......................
>
>
> L
> O
> T
> S
>
> O
> F
>
> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
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>
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> !
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> !
> !
> !
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> Ok,
>
> 1. How did Neville get the sword? Last time I saw it, the
> double-crossing goblin had it.

Yes, as has already been said: A True Gryffindor could pull it out of
the hat in Times of Great Need. But don't feel bad for having missed
that detail, Jesse didn't even get that it WAS the sword. Wink

>
> 2. Love how JK got it both ways: Voldemort kills Harry AND Harry
> kills Voldemort!
>
> 3. I agree with some reviewers that the travelling all around the
> countryside middle was not exactly dull, but it sure plodded.

Yes, I could have done with a couple less chapters of aimless wandering
about the countryside. If I'd have been Ron, I'd have left too! LOL

>
> 4. The "19 years later" ending was disappointing. After all the
> buildup to Harry's career choice in earlier books, I would like to
> have found out what he was doing with himself, aside from having kids.
> Ok, Neville's a professor ... what about Luna? Hagrid? Cho? etc etc
> etc etc

Besides the interview, she's all but promised to write an Encyclopedia,
with all the characters' backstories and what happened after Voldemort's
Death. With proceeds going to Charity, like with the schoolbooks. She
says it's basically already written- someone just needs to take her 17
yrs worth of notes and organize them into Encyclopedia form. Every
single one of the students in Harry's year has a full characterization
and backstory, even if they'd never gotten a mention in the books.

>
> 5. Poor Snape. All those pages wandering the countryside, and his
> redemption is via a massive flashback. (I knew it all along! <wink>)

I wasn't sure. I thought it might have been exactly that, but it could
have been something else.

>
> 6. I don't know about you, but the final battle struck me as terribly
> Return of the Jedi Ewok battle ... centaurs, hippogriffs, House Elves,
> you name it, they were in there at the end.
>
> 7. GO Mrs. Weasley!! Beatrix got what was coming to her.

AMEN! I can't wait for that scene in the movie!

>
> 8. How did Draco get the Hallows wand again?
>
> 9. <feel free to add>
>

I was amazed at truly how close to the Merlin/Gandalf character she kept
Dumbledore, right down to the secretive plotting and using the Hero in
not always very nice ways, all for "The Greater Good." He didn't want
Harry to die, and was happy that he didn't, but he was definitely raised
as a weapon to be sacrificed.

My only other real complaint is that I wish we'd seen more of Ginny.
Yes, he had to end up with her- she was the first Girl we saw in the
book, and a redhead too (*GGG*) I like that, even though a lot of people
don't. But for 7 books now, I waited for her to be really brought into
the story as a real character, other than just a mind-controlled would
be murderess, and that never happened.

I also liked the way she had Dudley come around, some, in the book. I
started crying right then, and that was pretty much the way the rest of
the book went. Although, as I've seen stated in other discussions,
Dobby's death was terrible, but it was much more effecting than
Mad-Eye's, Tonks', Lupin's, or even Fred's! Which seems a little sad. I
always loved Fred and George, and it's strange that his death was done
so--- lightly, I guess. I know, it was the middle of battle, but it
seems those deaths should have been more moving than they were. We don't
even know HOW Tonks and Lupin were killed.

Kat
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:33 am
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Kathleen Hein wrote:
> Rhino 7 wrote:
>> ... and I have to say that it's a well crafted end to the series.
>>
>> I have a few questions/thoughts ......................
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>> 7. GO Mrs. Weasley!! Beatrix got what was coming to her.
>
> AMEN! I can't wait for that scene in the movie!
>
>>
> Kat

My favourite scene from the book is Harry's one liner:

Carrow spits in McGonagall's face, and Harry removes the cloak of
invisibility and uses the Crucio curse on Carrow. ( He was
unsuccessfull when using it in Order of the Phoenix ) . He then goes
on to say "I see what Bellatrix meant ......... you need to really
mean it"

Unfortunately, in the film of OotP, Voldemort used the line, so
they'll have to change it in the final film. As Bellatrix was a far
more evil character than Voldemort, I don't think it will have the
same effect.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:06 pm
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Rhino 7 wrote:
> ... and I have to say that it's a well crafted end to the series.
<snippage of spoilers>

Finally finished the book!

Gosh, I'm glad I could finally read this thread -- the
thread has been sitting in my newreader, unread, for months.
Drove me nuts. Thankfully, you folks already answered
questions I hadn't even gotten around to thinking of.

Spent almost all day at work 50 pages from the end of the
novel, trying to wedge a page here or a page there into my
workday in between, say, actual work activities. One of my
more frustrating workdays, in that respect -- my students
had a quiz in my first class, and I tried to persuade the
last student out the door to triple-check his quiz answers,
so I'd have another five minutes of reading time.

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