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 >Julie,
 >I thought about that too. For beings that can do up like dried leaves,
 >and are expressly told to stay away from fire you wouldn't think they
 >would play with it so often, hee hee.
 >Take care,
 >Ashe
 >

I so agree,. but who's they? I don't think it was Louis who set the doll shop
on fire, but he did start three of the four fires. Louis is a little fire bug.
hehe

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On 06 Aug 2003 11:52:38 GMT, statlover666 DeleteThis @aol.com (StatLover666)
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Madalein was the one that burned down her doll shop after she was made
a vampire. When I said they, I was speaking of vampires in general,
even though I know you were talking about IWTV specifically. Lestat
burned down Louis little shack in Memnoch, he also grabbed the torch
and threaten the Paris coven when they were going to roast him and
Gabbs, but hey I would have done the same. Then we have whole Marius
episode. They are all little fire bugs if you ask me, hee hee.
Take care,
Ashe

 >I so agree,. but who's they? I don't think it was Louis who set the doll shop
 >on fire, but he did start three of the four fires. Louis is a little fire bug.
 >hehe
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 >Madalein was the one that burned down her doll shop after she was made
 >a vampire. When I said they, I was speaking of vampires in general,
 >even though I know you were talking about IWTV specifically. Lestat
 >burned down Louis little shack in Memnoch, he also grabbed the torch
 >and threaten the Paris coven when they were going to roast him and
 >Gabbs, but hey I would have done the same. Then we have whole Marius
 >episode. They are all little fire bugs if you ask me, hee hee.
 >Take care,
 >Ashe

That's so true. I was talking about IWTV, but all the vamps are little fire
bugs. hehe I have not yet read MTD. I wonder what Louis did to make Lestat
burn down his home. Hmmm.. Knowing Lestat, probably not much. LOL I Think
they'd be a nice pairing, but they're just too different. *Sigh* lol

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On 07 Aug 2003 01:02:06 GMT, statlover666 DeleteThis @aol.com (StatLover666)
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Julie,
I'm not telling you what it was and ruin it for you in the event you
want to read it, but it's a little more than "not much", hee hee.
Let's just say that Lestat was being Lestat and Louis was being Louis.
Take care,
Ashe

 >
 >That's so true. I was talking about IWTV, but all the vamps are little fire
 >bugs. hehe I have not yet read MTD. I wonder what Louis did to make Lestat
 >burn down his home. Hmmm.. Knowing Lestat, probably not much. LOL I Think
 >they'd be a nice pairing, but they're just too different. *Sigh* lol
 >
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 >Julie,
 >I'm not telling you what it was and ruin it for you in the event you
 >want to read it, but it's a little more than "not much", hee hee.
 >Let's just say that Lestat was being Lestat and Louis was being Louis.
 >Take care,
 >Ashe
 >

Please tell me. I want to know badly. I know I hate secrets. hehe Please.
*Makes sad puppy dog face*.

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Okay, but first I have to tell you that I screwed up, the shack
burning didn't take place in Memnoch, it took place in Tale of the
Body Thief. I don't know why I was thinking it was Memnoch and I'm
surprised nobody corrected me.
Anywho, the premise of TOTBF, if you haven't read it, is that Lestat
switches bodies with a guy named Raglan James (The Body Thief), who
used to be a member of the Talamasca before they booted him out. He
has already switched bodies with a guy who is now dead and killed his
old body.
Anyway, the Body Thief offers to switch bodies with Lestat, allowing
Lestat to be human for a period of time. I think it is three days, but
things go very wrong and Lestat realizes that the BF has no intention
of returning his body to him. Lestat even agrees to the $20 million
that the BF is also asking for believing that the sum money will
ensure that the BF will return. In the end the BF is more interested
in being powerful in an immortal body than the $20 million.
Lestat gets back down to New Orleans and asks/demands that Louis make
him a vampire so he would have more power to get his body back. He
tries to entice him by telling Louis that Louis would now be His maker
and that Louis would be the more powerful of the two. Louis, being
Louis, absolutely refuses to do this telling Lestat that he now has a
chance to redeem himself and that he should go with the nun he met in
Georgetown, VA (longer story there) and help her save lives when she
returns to South America. This also comes after Louis nearly kills
Lestat because he doesn't recognize him in the human body. So, after
Louis walks out on Lestat, Lestat burns it down out of anger (Lestat
being Lestat), but makes sure to remove all the value paintings and
whatnot that Louis has stashed there over the years. Marius also shows
himself to Lestat and kind of just shakes his head at what Lestat has
done, but also doesn't offer any assistance. So at the end of the
story Lestat is a little pissed at both Louis and Marius, but of
course, he forgives them. He tells himself that they "really knew"
that he would win in the end so he didn't need their help.
TOTBF is probably my favorite book after TVL, I think because it is a
story that takes places, totally, in the modern era and it shows
Lestat in a vulnerable position that he still comes out on top of in
the end and is a story in which Lestat redefines himself.
Some people think it was a bit whiny because, as it turns out, Lestat
hates being mortal and does do quite a bit of bitching throughout the
book. This is the major lesson he learns from his experience. He
willingly chooses to go back to being a vampire because he really
likes being a vampire. Whereas before he could tell himself that he
was forced into vampirism, this time he can't, he had a choice. So his
illusions about finding redemption, trying to do good by showing the
world evil, and his desire for a mortal existance have all been
shattered.
If you haven't read it yet, you should. If you have...well, then this
was a great trip down storybook lane, hee hee.
Take care,
Ashe

 >Please tell me. I want to know badly. I know I hate secrets. hehe Please.
 >*Makes sad puppy dog face*.



  >>Julie,
  >>I'm not telling you what it was and ruin it for you in the event you
  >>want to read it, but it's a little more than "not much", hee hee.
  >>Let's just say that Lestat was being Lestat and Louis was being Louis.
  >>Take care,
  >>Ashe

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 >Okay, but first I have to tell you that I screwed up, the shack
 >burning didn't take place in Memnoch, it took place in Tale of the
 >Body Thief. I don't know why I was thinking it was Memnoch and I'm
 >surprised nobody corrected me.
 >Anywho, the premise of TOTBF, if you haven't read it, is that Lestat
 >switches bodies with a guy named Raglan James (The Body Thief), who
 >used to be a member of the Talamasca before they booted him out. He
 >has already switched bodies with a guy who is now dead and killed his
 >old body.
 >Anyway, the Body Thief offers to switch bodies with Lestat, allowing
 >Lestat to be human for a period of time. I think it is three days, but
 >things go very wrong and Lestat realizes that the BF has no intention
 >of returning his body to him. Lestat even agrees to the $20 million
 >that the BF is also asking for believing that the sum money will
 >ensure that the BF will return. In the end the BF is more interested
 >in being powerful in an immortal body than the $20 million.
 >Lestat gets back down to New Orleans and asks/demands that Louis make
 >him a vampire so he would have more power to get his body back. He
 >tries to entice him by telling Louis that Louis would now be His maker
 >and that Louis would be the more powerful of the two. Louis, being
 >Louis, absolutely refuses to do this telling Lestat that he now has a
 >chance to redeem himself and that he should go with the nun he met in
 >Georgetown, VA (longer story there) and help her save lives when she
 >returns to South America. This also comes after Louis nearly kills
 >Lestat because he doesn't recognize him in the human body. So, after
 >Louis walks out on Lestat, Lestat burns it down out of anger (Lestat
 >being Lestat), but makes sure to remove all the value paintings and
 >whatnot that Louis has stashed there over the years. Marius also shows
 >himself to Lestat and kind of just shakes his head at what Lestat has
 >done, but also doesn't offer any assistance. So at the end of the
 >story Lestat is a little pissed at both Louis and Marius, but of
 >course, he forgives them. He tells himself that they "really knew"
 >that he would win in the end so he didn't need their help.
 >TOTBF is probably my favorite book after TVL, I think because it is a
 >story that takes places, totally, in the modern era and it shows
 >Lestat in a vulnerable position that he still comes out on top of in
 >the end and is a story in which Lestat redefines himself.
 >Some people think it was a bit whiny because, as it turns out, Lestat
 >hates being mortal and does do quite a bit of bitching throughout the
 >book. This is the major lesson he learns from his experience. He
 >willingly chooses to go back to being a vampire because he really
 >likes being a vampire. Whereas before he could tell himself that he
 >was forced into vampirism, this time he can't, he had a choice. So his
 >illusions about finding redemption, trying to do good by showing the
 >world evil, and his desire for a mortal existance have all been
 >shattered.
 >If you haven't read it yet, you should. If you have...well, then this
 >was a great trip down storybook lane, hee hee.
 >Take care,
 >Ashe
 >

Thank you for telling me. Now, I know. I still think LnL should get together. I
know, it would never work but I can still like it. hehe I so get what you said,
but why did Anne write MTD? Hmmm? Seems everything is kind of finished here.
Then again, I don't know everything.

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  >>Okay, but first I have to tell you that I screwed up, the shack
  >>burning didn't take place in Memnoch, it took place in Tale of the
  >>Body Thief. I don't know why I was thinking it was Memnoch and I'm
  >>surprised nobody corrected me.
  >>Anywho, the premise of TOTBF, if you haven't read it, is that Lestat
  >>switches bodies with a guy named Raglan James (The Body Thief), who
  >>used to be a member of the Talamasca before they booted him out. He
  >>has already switched bodies with a guy who is now dead and killed his
  >>old body.
  >>Anyway, the Body Thief offers to switch bodies with Lestat, allowing
  >>Lestat to be human for a period of time. I think it is three days, but
  >>things go very wrong and Lestat realizes that the BF has no intention
  >>of returning his body to him. Lestat even agrees to the $20 million
  >>that the BF is also asking for believing that the sum money will
  >>ensure that the BF will return. In the end the BF is more interested
  >>in being powerful in an immortal body than the $20 million.
  >>Lestat gets back down to New Orleans and asks/demands that Louis make
  >>him a vampire so he would have more power to get his body back. He
  >>tries to entice him by telling Louis that Louis would now be His maker
  >>and that Louis would be the more powerful of the two. Louis, being
  >>Louis, absolutely refuses to do this telling Lestat that he now has a
  >>chance to redeem himself and that he should go with the nun he met in
  >>Georgetown, VA (longer story there) and help her save lives when she
  >>returns to South America. This also comes after Louis nearly kills
  >>Lestat because he doesn't recognize him in the human body. So, after
  >>Louis walks out on Lestat, Lestat burns it down out of anger (Lestat
  >>being Lestat), but makes sure to remove all the value paintings and
  >>whatnot that Louis has stashed there over the years. Marius also shows
  >>himself to Lestat and kind of just shakes his head at what Lestat has
  >>done, but also doesn't offer any assistance. So at the end of the
  >>story Lestat is a little pissed at both Louis and Marius, but of
  >>course, he forgives them. He tells himself that they "really knew"
  >>that he would win in the end so he didn't need their help.
  >>TOTBF is probably my favorite book after TVL, I think because it is a
  >>story that takes places, totally, in the modern era and it shows
  >>Lestat in a vulnerable position that he still comes out on top of in
  >>the end and is a story in which Lestat redefines himself.
  >>Some people think it was a bit whiny because, as it turns out, Lestat
  >>hates being mortal and does do quite a bit of bitching throughout the
  >>book. This is the major lesson he learns from his experience. He
  >>willingly chooses to go back to being a vampire because he really
  >>likes being a vampire. Whereas before he could tell himself that he
  >>was forced into vampirism, this time he can't, he had a choice. So his
  >>illusions about finding redemption, trying to do good by showing the
  >>world evil, and his desire for a mortal existance have all been
  >>shattered.
  >>If you haven't read it yet, you should. If you have...well, then this
  >>was a great trip down storybook lane, hee hee.
  >>Take care,
  >>Ashe
  >>
 >
 >Thank you for telling me. Now, I know. I still think LnL should get together. I
 >know, it would never work but I can still like it. hehe I so get what you said,
 >but why did Anne write MTD? Hmmm? Seems everything is kind of finished here.
 >Then again, I don't know everything.
 >
 >Julie

Julie,
I heard that Memnoch the Drivel wasn't originally supposed to be a
Vampire Chronicle, that it was supposed to be a stand-alone novel with
a new character. This certainly does hold water as Lestat is almost
unrecognizable in this story. This Lestat doesn't "feel" like the
Lestat we all know. Throughout the whole book he's whiny, afraid,
timid, and overwhelmed. So much for the vampire who said he'd go to
hell just to laugh in Satan's face...or something like that.
You almost get the impression that, at the last minute, she decided
that she would make Lestat the main character and did a search and
replace.
What's worse, this book is a rip-off of Goethe's Faust, in which the
main character, Dr. Faust, makes a deal with the devil and sees heaven
and hell. If you interested in the subject matter read the original
work, not the rip-off.
Take care,
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 >Julie,
 >I heard that Memnoch the Drivel wasn't originally supposed to be a
 >Vampire Chronicle, that it was supposed to be a stand-alone novel with
 >a new character. This certainly does hold water as Lestat is almost
 >unrecognizable in this story. This Lestat doesn't "feel" like the
 >Lestat we all know. Throughout the whole book he's whiny, afraid,
 >timid, and overwhelmed. So much for the vampire who said he'd go to
 >hell just to laugh in Satan's face...or something like that.

Yeah, I agree. That character sounds more like Louis. Yet, it not to a Tee.
*Knows all the Louis Lovers will hate me*

 >You almost get the impression that, at the last minute, she decided
 >that she would make Lestat the main character and did a search and
 >replace.

From what you say, because I haven't read it myself, I agree. I think she
replaced the character with Lestat because she knew it would sell. Which if
that is true, is horrible.

 >What's worse, this book is a rip-off of Goethe's Faust, in which the
 >main character, Dr. Faust, makes a deal with the devil and sees heaven
 >and hell. If you interested in the subject matter read the original
 >work, not the rip-off.
 >Take care,
 >Ash

Hmmm... I never heard of that book. When was it published? So, you don't think
I said should read MTD at all? My thing of it, though would he want to go
there? He's never to going to die. Also, you'd think, once again, that would be
an ending point. That the chronicles would end there.

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