Footnotes in layout programs other than framemaker?

In article <10d4k618eamca9 DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>,
"Edward Casey" <ejmn DeleteThis @cpinternet.com> wrote:

 > "Charles Gray" <cgray DeleteThis @null.net> wrote in message
 > news:j5t1d0tdoljjgijcgeb7n1hn9nt8r67q9p@4ax.com...
  > > Does anyone know of any other layout program other than framemaker
  > > that will handle footnotes? I find indesign far more friendly, and
  > > evidently frame isn't going to be supported much longer, but equally,
  > > no other program I know of handles fn's.
  > > Thanks!
  > >
 >
 > I am pretty sure that Pagemaker, Quark, Indesign, and TeX all offer this
 > feature, but maybe not as automated as in Framemaker.
 >
<font color=purple> > A good primer is at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.aeonix.com/pagelay.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.aeonix.com/pagelay.htm</font</a>>
 >
 > I have a somewhat more exotic problem, to wit:
 > How to get Unicode characters created in emacs into a page layout program?
 > Will Indesign import a Unicode text file or is TeX the only tool for this
 > job? I am primarily interested in the planes that contain Latin extended
 > A, Hebrew, and Greek. I think Arial Unicode MS has all these glyphs but I
 > don't think it is appropriate for book printing. Any ideas?
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > Ed.
 >

InDesign, PageMaker, and Quark do not handle footnotes as well or as
automated as Framemaker. However, check out plug-ins for Quark and
InDesign to help with this task. (ALAP is one vendor.) See the
Quark/Adobe web sites for info about plug-in vendors.

InDesign fully supports unicode and should support importing a unicode
text file. You may need to doublecheck settings of the import filters to
ensure that the unicode characters are handled correctly.

Indeed, the OpenType files with the "pro" designation (from Adobe) are
usually very complete Unicode versions of fonts and the OTF format, when
used in InDesign allows rather extensive automatic glyph substitution.
For example, you can create a character style for swash characters (if
they are available in the font), then ID will automatically apply them
to the selected text. Even better, you can select 'open type features'
in the paragraph styles to set usage of number styles (lining,
proportional lining, old style, etc.), turn on 'discretionary'
ligatures, and select other features of a particular typeface.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Stella Abzug" <abzug DeleteThis @soda.pop.com> wrote in message
news:abzug-0801BD.21412117062004@netnews.comcast.net...
 > In article <10d4k618eamca9 DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>,
 > "Edward Casey" <ejmn DeleteThis @cpinternet.com> wrote:
 >
  > > "Charles Gray" <cgray DeleteThis @null.net> wrote in message
  > > news:j5t1d0tdoljjgijcgeb7n1hn9nt8r67q9p@4ax.com...
   > > > Does anyone know of any other layout program other than framemaker
   > > > that will handle footnotes? I find indesign far more friendly, and
   > > > evidently frame isn't going to be supported much longer, but
equally,
   > > > no other program I know of handles fn's.
   > > > Thanks!
   > > >
  > >
  > > I am pretty sure that Pagemaker, Quark, Indesign, and TeX all offer
this
  > > feature, but maybe not as automated as in Framemaker.
  > >
<font color=green>  > > A good primer is at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.aeonix.com/pagelay.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.aeonix.com/pagelay.htm</font</a>>
  > >
  > > I have a somewhat more exotic problem, to wit:
  > > How to get Unicode characters created in emacs into a page layout
program?
  > > Will Indesign import a Unicode text file or is TeX the only tool for
this
  > > job? I am primarily interested in the planes that contain Latin
extended
  > > A, Hebrew, and Greek. I think Arial Unicode MS has all these glyphs
but I
  > > don't think it is appropriate for book printing. Any ideas?
  > >
  > > Thanks,
  > >
  > > Ed.
  > >
 >
 > InDesign, PageMaker, and Quark do not handle footnotes as well or as
 > automated as Framemaker. However, check out plug-ins for Quark and
 > InDesign to help with this task. (ALAP is one vendor.) See the
 > Quark/Adobe web sites for info about plug-in vendors.
 >
 > InDesign fully supports unicode and should support importing a unicode
 > text file. You may need to doublecheck settings of the import filters to
 > ensure that the unicode characters are handled correctly.
 >
 > Indeed, the OpenType files with the "pro" designation (from Adobe) are
 > usually very complete Unicode versions of fonts and the OTF format, when
 > used in InDesign allows rather extensive automatic glyph substitution.
 > For example, you can create a character style for swash characters (if
 > they are available in the font), then ID will automatically apply them
 > to the selected text. Even better, you can select 'open type features'
 > in the paragraph styles to set usage of number styles (lining,
 > proportional lining, old style, etc.), turn on 'discretionary'
 > ligatures, and select other features of a particular typeface.


A belated thank you to Stella. Your reply was, as usual, helpful, pithy,
to the point. Btw, is that a pen-name or are you related to the former,
formidable U.S. representative from Manhattan?

Thanks,
Ed.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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