Foundation Movies...

External Since: Jul 14, 2004 Posts: 1

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:05:27 GMT, Shawn <ShawnGBR.RemoveThis@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>I have reservations about a Foundation film series. The first film would
>have to cover Hari's life (more "Forward The Foundation" and "Prelude To
>Foundation" than "Foundation" for action, with a mysterious figure that WE
>know as R.Daneel Olivaw steering events and helping Hari Seldon for some
>unknown purpose... OK, IT'S THE ZEROTH LAW!).

I've always felt that the original introduction to "Foundation" when it was
first published (serialized in a magazine, not anthologized in book form)
fits nicely just before the epilogue in "Forward the Foundation". Of course, if
you're talking about making a movie, it would need to also include "The
Psychohistorians" right there. Or make it two movies, one from "Prelude" and
the other from "Forward" and "The Psychohistorians", properly arranged.

> "Foundation" itself, and it
>pains me to say this, is bad for a screenplay: a 120 minute film is split up
>into three minute scenes (approx.) so the story will be disjointed with the
>Mayors, Traders and Merchant Princes spread out like different stories.

As we were talking about with a friend, the various chapters of the original
trilogy could be re-grouped as:

The Psychohistorians (though this would fit better with "Prelude" and "Forward")
Foundation (The Encyclopedists)
Bridle and Saddle (The Mayors)

The Big and The Little (The Merchant Princes)
The Wedge (The Traders) (with Lathan Devers, as originally written)
Dead Hand (The General)

The Mule
Now You See It... (Search By The Mule)
....And Now You Don't (Search By The Foundation)

So, you have first one centered around Salvor Hardin, then another about the
meeting of the Foundation and the Empire until their final confrontation, and
finally, one about the Mule and the Second Foundation (the latter more than the
former).

>Especially when the "F- & Empire" and "2nd F-" films will take place over a
>shorter period of time (example: Mule's reign is for five years only).
>"Foundation's Edge" is going to be like a psychadelic trip and moral story
>rolled into one (and I bet they'd make Pelorat much younger and sassier than
>he is, just like they've done with the dour Susan Calvin). Although I'd
>quite like to see the Trevize - Pelorat relationship as a father/son one, it
>would more likely be a Lethal Weapon old cop - new cop type. In fact; apart
>from the holorecordings of Hari, Golan Trevize and Janov Pelorat will be the
>only two main hero (human) characters to be in the bulk of two films. Bliss
>will carry over from "Edge" to "Earth" and there's the happy return of
>Olivaw.
>
>...and that's just the first 600 years of the thousand. Personally speaking;
>I'd prefer films based on The Good Doctor's short stories (anyone want to
>help me write the screenplay to "The Dead Past"?!?!?) or maybe hour-long TV
>programs based on some of the short tales.
>

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External Since: Jul 08, 2003 Posts: 78

In article <BD1B25D8.B02B%ShawnGBR@worldnet.att.net>, Shawn <ShawnGBR RemoveThis @worldnet.att.net> wrote:

: He's not thin and gawky, just a bit on the short side. We'd need a tall,
: bendy person to play The Mule.

Since the Mule is described in the book as being short, I don't see
why you would want a "tall, bendy person" to play him.

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