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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:26 am
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As you might remember, my Ishtar sat the tests in February to try for
a place in the Gifted classes at her school from next year. We've
finally got the results!
They have 2 streams of Gifted Education.
Ignite classes (which Athena is in) do accelerated education, Years 8
and 9 in one year which means that Athena will finish school just
before her 17th birthday.
Co-Ignite classes do extended education rather than accelerated
education. Co-Ignite students do years 8 and 9 in separate years but
are offered more in-depth studies and additional lessons where
appropriate to keep them intellectually stimulated. Ishtar has been
offered a place in this stream for next year! This means she will
Graduate aged 17 years 9 months.
We are *so* happy for her. She will get the intellectual stimulation
she needs in this class, but she will not be accelerated beyond her
emotional maturity (she is not nearly as emotionally mature as Athena
is). Some of her friends are in Ignite for next year and as Ignite
and Co-Ignite do some classes together (Core studies such as
Mathematics and English are kept separate, but additional studies such
as Technology, Art, PE, Home Economics, etc are joined between the two
classes) she will spend some of her class time with her friends.
This is the best possible outcome for her, as far as we are concerned!
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Mummy Az wrote:
> As you might remember, my Ishtar sat the tests in February to try for
> a place in the Gifted classes at her school from next year. We've
> finally got the results!
>
> They have 2 streams of Gifted Education.
>
> Ignite classes (which Athena is in) do accelerated education, Years 8
> and 9 in one year which means that Athena will finish school just
> before her 17th birthday.
>
> Co-Ignite classes do extended education rather than accelerated
> education. Co-Ignite students do years 8 and 9 in separate years but
> are offered more in-depth studies and additional lessons where
> appropriate to keep them intellectually stimulated. Ishtar has been
> offered a place in this stream for next year! This means she will
> Graduate aged 17 years 9 months.
>
> We are *so* happy for her. She will get the intellectual stimulation
> she needs in this class, but she will not be accelerated beyond her
> emotional maturity (she is not nearly as emotionally mature as Athena
> is). Some of her friends are in Ignite for next year and as Ignite
> and Co-Ignite do some classes together (Core studies such as
> Mathematics and English are kept separate, but additional studies such
> as Technology, Art, PE, Home Economics, etc are joined between the two
> classes) she will spend some of her class time with her friends.
>
> This is the best possible outcome for her, as far as we are concerned!
> Mummy Az the terminally proud.
Yay, Ishtar!!
And, from your point of view, probably just as well your two
girls are not in exactly the same program. Leaves a little
less room for "I did what you did and I did it better" debates.
(My sister and I fought like... fought like... fought like
things that fight a lot, when we were teenagers. Didn't
mean we didn't love each other, but... The fact we each had
separate areas to excel in did help cut down on the
fighting. We're better now. :> )
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In article <l4na04hotv6ul8a41h0d42dfntf9qv1303.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
Mummy Az <manth.TakeThisOut@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> This is the best possible outcome for her, as far as we are concerned!
> Mummy Az the terminally proud.
Congrats to Ishtar!
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"Mummy Az" <manth.TakeThisOut@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> As you might remember, my Ishtar sat the tests in February to try for
> a place in the Gifted classes at her school from next year. We've
> finally got the results!
>
> They have 2 streams of Gifted Education.
>
> Ignite classes (which Athena is in) do accelerated education, Years 8
> and 9 in one year which means that Athena will finish school just
> before her 17th birthday.
>
> Co-Ignite classes do extended education rather than accelerated
> education. Co-Ignite students do years 8 and 9 in separate years but
> are offered more in-depth studies and additional lessons where
> appropriate to keep them intellectually stimulated. Ishtar has been
> offered a place in this stream for next year! This means she will
> Graduate aged 17 years 9 months.
>
> We are *so* happy for her. She will get the intellectual stimulation
> she needs in this class, but she will not be accelerated beyond her
> emotional maturity (she is not nearly as emotionally mature as Athena
> is). Some of her friends are in Ignite for next year and as Ignite
> and Co-Ignite do some classes together (Core studies such as
> Mathematics and English are kept separate, but additional studies such
> as Technology, Art, PE, Home Economics, etc are joined between the two
> classes) she will spend some of her class time with her friends.
>
> This is the best possible outcome for her, as far as we are concerned!
> Mummy Az the terminally proud.
Oh! That sounds just wonderful! {REALLY BIG GRIN, HUMONGOUS GRIN}
CONGRATULATIONS! {HUMONGOUS GRIN, GREAT BIG LONG TIGHT HAPPY HUGS, REALLY
BIG SQUEEZES, GREAT BIG LONG TIGHT HAPPY SQUEEZES}
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:26 am
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In article <l4na04hotv6ul8a41h0d42dfntf9qv1303.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Mummy Az
<manth.RemoveThis@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> As you might remember, my Ishtar sat the tests in February to try for
> a place in the Gifted classes at her school from next year. We've
> finally got the results!
>
> They have 2 streams of Gifted Education.
>
> Ignite classes (which Athena is in) do accelerated education, Years 8
> and 9 in one year which means that Athena will finish school just
> before her 17th birthday.
>
> Co-Ignite classes do extended education rather than accelerated
> education. Co-Ignite students do years 8 and 9 in separate years but
> are offered more in-depth studies and additional lessons where
> appropriate to keep them intellectually stimulated. Ishtar has been
> offered a place in this stream for next year! This means she will
> Graduate aged 17 years 9 months.
>
> We are *so* happy for her. She will get the intellectual stimulation
> she needs in this class, but she will not be accelerated beyond her
> emotional maturity (she is not nearly as emotionally mature as Athena
> is). Some of her friends are in Ignite for next year and as Ignite
> and Co-Ignite do some classes together (Core studies such as
> Mathematics and English are kept separate, but additional studies such
> as Technology, Art, PE, Home Economics, etc are joined between the two
> classes) she will spend some of her class time with her friends.
>
> This is the best possible outcome for her, as far as we are concerned!
> Mummy Az the terminally proud.
I can drink to that! My oldest son was one of those highly gifted kids.
He spent 6 years in college and then got an engineering degree. I got
to share one class with him in technical writing.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:26 am
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"Edna" <huelsenbeck.RemoveThis@gmailDOT.com> wrote:
> Mummy Az <manth.RemoveThis@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>> This is the best possible outcome for her, as far as we are concerned!
>> Mummy Az the terminally proud.
> Congrats to Ishtar!
*and* to a certain Mummy Az as well for the work she did in raising Ishtar!
Question: you noted that you and Ross didn't have the fast/deep track
opportunity when you were in school; when did your school system begin the
programs? And was the decision to offer it (and its funding) made locally,
regionally, or nationally?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:11 pm
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:22:41 -0700, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
<"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Yay, Ishtar!!
>
>And, from your point of view, probably just as well your two
>girls are not in exactly the same program. Leaves a little
>less room for "I did what you did and I did it better" debates.
<nodding> Yes. They will be doing many similar things - Co-Ignite
kids get all the Fun aspects of Ignite, such as outings, but at a more
relaxed pace. I'm glad they didn't get into the same program but are
both being recognised as Gifted. Educating ultra-smart little ones
takes it out of you!
>(My sister and I fought like... fought like... fought like
>things that fight a lot, when we were teenagers. Didn't
>mean we didn't love each other, but... The fact we each had
>separate areas to excel in did help cut down on the
>fighting. We're better now. :> )
My sisters and I did exactly the same thing. Especially when we had
to share a room! But as adults we are really supportive of one
another. Well, the two of us who are left are supportive anyway! Not
much we can do for the middle sister these days except leave flowers
on her grave.
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Mummy Az wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:22:41 -0700, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
> wrote:
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>>Yay, Ishtar!!
>>
>>And, from your point of view, probably just as well your two
>>girls are not in exactly the same program. Leaves a little
>>less room for "I did what you did and I did it better" debates.
>
> <nodding> Yes. They will be doing many similar things - Co-Ignite
> kids get all the Fun aspects of Ignite, such as outings, but at a more
> relaxed pace. I'm glad they didn't get into the same program but are
> both being recognised as Gifted. Educating ultra-smart little ones
> takes it out of you!
I can only imagine. Though ultra-energetic is probably the
harder part of the healthy and intelligent equation. :>
I've sent books to very young children of friends, where the
book is all photos of cute animals sleeping, labeled with
words like "tired" and "nap" and "sleeping". I figured the
kids might take the hint, occasionally, and give my friend a
rest.
That trick won't work on older kids! (Not even sure it
worked on younger ones.)
>>(My sister and I fought like... fought like... fought like
>>things that fight a lot, when we were teenagers. Didn't
>>mean we didn't love each other, but... The fact we each had
>>separate areas to excel in did help cut down on the
>>fighting. We're better now. :> )
>
> My sisters and I did exactly the same thing. Especially when we had
> to share a room! But as adults we are really supportive of one
> another. Well, the two of us who are left are supportive anyway! Not
> much we can do for the middle sister these days except leave flowers
> on her grave.
I wonder, sometimes, if guilt about teenage misbehaviour is
behind a lot of adult sibling good relations. Adults act
nice, to begin with, because they feel badly about acting
rotten when younger... and, eventually, make friends.
I can't imagine how tough it must be with middle sister
gone. My middle sibling has driven me crazy many a time,
but I still prefer the world with him in it. Frustration
and all.
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:26:30 +0930, Mummy Az <manth.DeleteThis@westnet.com.au>
wrote:
>As you might remember, my Ishtar sat the tests in February to try for
>a place in the Gifted classes at her school from next year. We've
>finally got the results!
>
>They have 2 streams of Gifted Education.
>
>Ignite classes (which Athena is in) do accelerated education, Years 8
>and 9 in one year which means that Athena will finish school just
>before her 17th birthday.
>
>Co-Ignite classes do extended education rather than accelerated
>education. Co-Ignite students do years 8 and 9 in separate years but
>are offered more in-depth studies and additional lessons where
>appropriate to keep them intellectually stimulated. Ishtar has been
>offered a place in this stream for next year! This means she will
>Graduate aged 17 years 9 months.
>
>We are *so* happy for her. She will get the intellectual stimulation
>she needs in this class, but she will not be accelerated beyond her
>emotional maturity (she is not nearly as emotionally mature as Athena
>is). Some of her friends are in Ignite for next year and as Ignite
>and Co-Ignite do some classes together (Core studies such as
>Mathematics and English are kept separate, but additional studies such
>as Technology, Art, PE, Home Economics, etc are joined between the two
>classes) she will spend some of her class time with her friends.
Congratulations to both girls!
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"Mummy Az" <manth DeleteThis @westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> As you might remember, my Ishtar sat the tests in February to try for
> a place in the Gifted classes at her school from next year. We've
> finally got the results!
>
> They have 2 streams of Gifted Education.
>
> Ignite classes (which Athena is in) do accelerated education, Years 8
> and 9 in one year which means that Athena will finish school just
> before her 17th birthday.
>
> Co-Ignite classes do extended education rather than accelerated
> education. Co-Ignite students do years 8 and 9 in separate years but
> are offered more in-depth studies and additional lessons where
> appropriate to keep them intellectually stimulated. Ishtar has been
> offered a place in this stream for next year! This means she will
> Graduate aged 17 years 9 months.
>
> We are *so* happy for her. She will get the intellectual stimulation
> she needs in this class, but she will not be accelerated beyond her
> emotional maturity (she is not nearly as emotionally mature as Athena
> is). Some of her friends are in Ignite for next year and as Ignite
> and Co-Ignite do some classes together (Core studies such as
> Mathematics and English are kept separate, but additional studies such
> as Technology, Art, PE, Home Economics, etc are joined between the two
> classes) she will spend some of her class time with her friends.
>
> This is the best possible outcome for her, as far as we are concerned!
> Mummy Az the terminally proud.
COngratulations and chocolates for you and your girls. The gifted program
when we were kids helped keep the boredom down, but mostly resulted in extra
homework because we were pulled out of class 1 day a week and expected to do
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:11:15 +1000, John Oliver
<jdoliver.TakeThisOut@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>Congratulations to both girls!
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>I wish I'd had the chance at Co-ignite 50 years ago when I was in high
>school.
I would have LOVED to be in such a class. 30 years ago, when I
started High School, the concept of Gifted education was Anathema. It
was considered Elitist Nonsense. Which meant that if you were
struggling you could get Remedial Help, but if you were bored
senseless in school you were somehow Bad, not understimulated.
There are times Ross and I are quite envious of the opportunities our
girls have been offered! We're so glad that there is something to
help them get the most out of their educative years.
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:58:51 -0700, Edna <huelsenbeck RemoveThis @gmailDOT.com>
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>In article <l4na04hotv6ul8a41h0d42dfntf9qv1303 RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
> Mummy Az <manth RemoveThis @westnet.com.au> wrote:
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>> This is the best possible outcome for her, as far as we are concerned!
>> Mummy Az the terminally proud.
>
>Congrats to Ishtar!
>
>Edna
Thanks, Edna. She's really happy about the results.
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:08:56 GMT, "Joe Morris"
<j.c.morris RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote:
>"Edna" <huelsenbeck RemoveThis @gmailDOT.com> wrote:
>> Mummy Az <manth RemoveThis @westnet.com.au> wrote:
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>>> This is the best possible outcome for her, as far as we are concerned!
>>> Mummy Az the terminally proud.
>
>> Congrats to Ishtar!
>
>*and* to a certain Mummy Az as well for the work she did in raising Ishtar!
>
>Question: you noted that you and Ross didn't have the fast/deep track
>opportunity when you were in school; when did your school system begin the
>programs? And was the decision to offer it (and its funding) made locally,
>regionally, or nationally?
>
>Joe Morris
>
AFAIK, there is no national program to facilitate Gifted Ed. It's run
pretty much on an ad-hoc basis, with some schools choosing to offer
the program but most don't.
The program my kids are involved with is called the Ignite program.
There are only 3 schools in Australia - all of them in my state - that
offer it. It has been offered for about 10 years at our school which
was the first to take it up. The funding was made available from the
State government and they attend a State run Public school.
The school I used to attend *does* now offer Gifted Ed - while it is
in a different state my nieces and nephews are students at the school
which is how I found out about it. However they *only* offer the
accelerated program, not the extended option that Ishtar will be a
part of. My nephew was not impressed that my sister refused him
permission to try out for it, but she was concerned that emotionally
he wasn't ready for acceleration even though academically he was.
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>> Yay, Ishtar!!
>>
>> And, from your point of view, probably just as well your two
>> girls are not in exactly the same program. Leaves a little
>> less room for "I did what you did and I did it better" debates.
>
> <nodding> Yes. They will be doing many similar things - Co-Ignite
> kids get all the Fun aspects of Ignite, such as outings, but at a more
> relaxed pace. I'm glad they didn't get into the same program but are
> both being recognised as Gifted. Educating ultra-smart little ones
> takes it out of you!
>
>> (My sister and I fought like... fought like... fought like
>> things that fight a lot, when we were teenagers. Didn't
>> mean we didn't love each other, but... The fact we each had
>> separate areas to excel in did help cut down on the
>> fighting. We're better now. :> )
>
> My sisters and I did exactly the same thing. Especially when we had
> to share a room! But as adults we are really supportive of one
> another. Well, the two of us who are left are supportive anyway! Not
> much we can do for the middle sister these days except leave flowers
> on her grave.
I need a good excuse to buy a new computer.
1) Back up important data.
2) Have family members stand clear.
3) Summon lightning with the following incantation:
"My brothers and I never fought."
I hope my daughter's boys learn to cooperate. The older likes arts and
such (loves cutting and pasting - with real paper and glue or staples)
and the younger likes 'train-trains', and things mechanical - loves
taking stuff apart, hopefully will learn to put things back together.
In ten years I see mommy going to get in her car: younger has its engine
torn apart, elder is repainting and re-upholstering it.
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That's what everybody calls me.
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Mummy Az wrote:
> As you might remember, my Ishtar sat the tests in February to try for
> a place in the Gifted classes at her school from next year. We've
> finally got the results!
>
> They have 2 streams of Gifted Education.
>
> Ignite classes (which Athena is in) do accelerated education, Years 8
> and 9 in one year which means that Athena will finish school just
> before her 17th birthday.
>
> Co-Ignite classes do extended education rather than accelerated
> education. Co-Ignite students do years 8 and 9 in separate years but
> are offered more in-depth studies and additional lessons where
> appropriate to keep them intellectually stimulated. Ishtar has been
> offered a place in this stream for next year! This means she will
> Graduate aged 17 years 9 months.
>
> We are *so* happy for her. She will get the intellectual stimulation
> she needs in this class, but she will not be accelerated beyond her
> emotional maturity (she is not nearly as emotionally mature as Athena
> is). Some of her friends are in Ignite for next year and as Ignite
> and Co-Ignite do some classes together (Core studies such as
> Mathematics and English are kept separate, but additional studies such
> as Technology, Art, PE, Home Economics, etc are joined between the two
> classes) she will spend some of her class time with her friends.
>
> This is the best possible outcome for her, as far as we are concerned!
> Mummy Az the terminally proud.
Congratulations!
As you said in another reply to a reply (?) you wish they had offered it
when you were their age. Ditto.
The concept of 'special ed' applying to faster learners was new when I
started high school (grad class of 1978). They did not have Advanced
Placement or Honors courses per se, with the possibility of grades
greater than 100%.
I was lucky, I was allowed to start chemistry one year early by going to
an early-bird class by 'special permission'. I was lucky because the
teacher who had to sign the permission, I knew from church; I did not
meet the prerequisites but he said 'Give me the form, you'll do fine',
and I did!
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That's what everybody calls me.
Hemidemisemideity of Anonymous Eponymity
Patron Saint of Hair Color Changing
Currently: Dark Intense Red - Hydrience 3RR.
Holder of a provisional pedant licens/ce
(limited to the area of physical sciens/ce)
Member of ABMLNCSC - Base singer, very base
"Mommy, make daddy stop singing".
I dye my hair so much my driver's license
has a color wheel. Nancy Mura >> Stay informed about: Gifted Education |
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