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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:38 pm
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When Austin brought baseball with him to Grayson, he made very certain
that they kept the original game as unchanged as possible, including
keeping the dimensions of the baseball field.
But they really should have changed it. Grayson has a 1.17 g
gravitational field, so hit balls aren't going to go as far, fielders
can't throw as far, and possibly most important: thrown balls around the
infield take longer to get there (This is a little counter intuitive,
but in a higher g field, given the same strength of throwing arm, to get
the same distance on a thrown ball, it has to be thrown in a higher
arcing trajectory, giving it a lower ground speed.) I'm not sure what
the effect of higher g might have on running speed...it might actually
make it faster for a sprint, which is what baseball players do.
All of which is going to totally screw up the stats. Batters are going
to have a bit more time to watch the pitch coming in, which is going to
improve their chance of getting a hit, and once the hit has been
fielded, it's going to take the ball longer to be thrown to first base,
which is going to make batting averages go way up. Runners attempting
to steal bases will have a better chance at success, and so on.
Changing the gravitational field in which it's played, completely
changes the nature of the game.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:38 pm
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"Don Sample" wrote in message
> When Austin brought baseball with him to Grayson, he made very certain
> that they kept the original game as unchanged as possible, including
> keeping the dimensions of the baseball field.
>
> But they really should have changed it. Grayson has a 1.17 g
> gravitational field, so hit balls aren't going to go as far, fielders
> can't throw as far, and possibly most important: thrown balls around the
> infield take longer to get there (This is a little counter intuitive,
> but in a higher g field, given the same strength of throwing arm, to get
> the same distance on a thrown ball, it has to be thrown in a higher
> arcing trajectory, giving it a lower ground speed.) I'm not sure what
> the effect of higher g might have on running speed...it might actually
> make it faster for a sprint, which is what baseball players do.
>
> All of which is going to totally screw up the stats. Batters are going
> to have a bit more time to watch the pitch coming in, which is going to
> improve their chance of getting a hit, and once the hit has been
> fielded, it's going to take the ball longer to be thrown to first base,
> which is going to make batting averages go way up. Runners attempting
> to steal bases will have a better chance at success, and so on.
> Changing the gravitational field in which it's played, completely
> changes the nature of the game.
>
I suppose aritifical gravity could fix it but they are used to it their way.
Not going to happen.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:54 pm
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"deowll" wrote in message
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> "Don Sample" wrote in message
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>> When Austin brought baseball with him to Grayson, he made very certain
>> that they kept the original game as unchanged as possible, including
>> keeping the dimensions of the baseball field.
>>
>> But they really should have changed it. Grayson has a 1.17 g
>> gravitational field, so hit balls aren't going to go as far, fielders
>> can't throw as far, and possibly most important: thrown balls around the
>> infield take longer to get there (This is a little counter intuitive,
>> but in a higher g field, given the same strength of throwing arm, to get
>> the same distance on a thrown ball, it has to be thrown in a higher
>> arcing trajectory, giving it a lower ground speed.) I'm not sure what
>> the effect of higher g might have on running speed...it might actually
>> make it faster for a sprint, which is what baseball players do.
>>
>> All of which is going to totally screw up the stats. Batters are going
>> to have a bit more time to watch the pitch coming in, which is going to
>> improve their chance of getting a hit, and once the hit has been
>> fielded, it's going to take the ball longer to be thrown to first base,
>> which is going to make batting averages go way up. Runners attempting
>> to steal bases will have a better chance at success, and so on.
>> Changing the gravitational field in which it's played, completely
>> changes the nature of the game.
>>
> I suppose aritifical gravity could fix it but they are used to it their
> way. Not going to happen.
>
>> --
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Plus, over the generations Graysons would adapt to the higher gravities.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:01 pm
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"Drak Bibliophile" wrote in message
> "deowll" wrote in message
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>> "Don Sample" wrote in message
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>>> When Austin brought baseball with him to Grayson, he made very certain
>>> that they kept the original game as unchanged as possible, including
>>> keeping the dimensions of the baseball field.
>>>
>>> But they really should have changed it. Grayson has a 1.17 g
>>> gravitational field, so hit balls aren't going to go as far, fielders
>>> can't throw as far, and possibly most important: thrown balls around the
>>> infield take longer to get there (This is a little counter intuitive,
>>> but in a higher g field, given the same strength of throwing arm, to get
>>> the same distance on a thrown ball, it has to be thrown in a higher
>>> arcing trajectory, giving it a lower ground speed.) I'm not sure what
>>> the effect of higher g might have on running speed...it might actually
>>> make it faster for a sprint, which is what baseball players do.
>>>
>>> All of which is going to totally screw up the stats. Batters are going
>>> to have a bit more time to watch the pitch coming in, which is going to
>>> improve their chance of getting a hit, and once the hit has been
>>> fielded, it's going to take the ball longer to be thrown to first base,
>>> which is going to make batting averages go way up. Runners attempting
>>> to steal bases will have a better chance at success, and so on.
>>> Changing the gravitational field in which it's played, completely
>>> changes the nature of the game.
>>>
>> I suppose aritifical gravity could fix it but they are used to it their
>> way. Not going to happen.
>>
>>> --
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> Plus, over the generations Graysons would adapt to the higher gravities.
>
By and large being just a tad shorter and blocker would take care of most of
that. Most of the rest would amount to no more than growing up in the
slightly higher gravity field.
Sure the game would still be a little different but not that different.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:31 am
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"Drak Bibliophile" wrote:
> "deowll" wrote in message
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> > "Don Sample" wrote in message
> >
> >> When Austin brought baseball with him to Grayson, he made very certain
> >> that they kept the original game as unchanged as possible, including
> >> keeping the dimensions of the baseball field.
> >>
> >> But they really should have changed it. Grayson has a 1.17 g
> >> gravitational field, so hit balls aren't going to go as far, fielders
> >> can't throw as far, and possibly most important: thrown balls around the
> >> infield take longer to get there (This is a little counter intuitive,
> >> but in a higher g field, given the same strength of throwing arm, to get
> >> the same distance on a thrown ball, it has to be thrown in a higher
> >> arcing trajectory, giving it a lower ground speed.) I'm not sure what
> >> the effect of higher g might have on running speed...it might actually
> >> make it faster for a sprint, which is what baseball players do.
> >>
> >> All of which is going to totally screw up the stats. Batters are going
> >> to have a bit more time to watch the pitch coming in, which is going to
> >> improve their chance of getting a hit, and once the hit has been
> >> fielded, it's going to take the ball longer to be thrown to first base,
> >> which is going to make batting averages go way up. Runners attempting
> >> to steal bases will have a better chance at success, and so on.
> >> Changing the gravitational field in which it's played, completely
> >> changes the nature of the game.
> >>
> > I suppose aritifical gravity could fix it but they are used to it their
> > way. Not going to happen.
> >
> Plus, over the generations Graysons would adapt to the higher gravities.
I'm not sure that the adaptations to higher gravity would translate into
being able to throw a faster pitch. They would tend toward making
people more massive. It might give the advantages of taking a lot of
steroids to a slugger, but it would take away from the nimbleness needed
for a short-stop.
And any sort of gravity adaptation would take centuries, far beyond
Austin's lifetime.
(OTOP, if I'm right about how higher gravity would affect hitting, and
running speeds, Austin might see the the improvement in batting
averages, and higher scoring games, as proof that his move to Grayson
was part of GOD'S PLAN.)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:58 pm
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:38:36 -0500, Don Sample
wrote:
>When Austin brought baseball with him to Grayson, he made very certain
>that they kept the original game as unchanged as possible, including
>keeping the dimensions of the baseball field.
>
>But they really should have changed it. Grayson has a 1.17 g
>gravitational field, so hit balls aren't going to go as far, fielders
>can't throw as far, and possibly most important: thrown balls around the
>infield take longer to get there (This is a little counter intuitive,
>but in a higher g field, given the same strength of throwing arm, to get
>the same distance on a thrown ball, it has to be thrown in a higher
>arcing trajectory, giving it a lower ground speed.) I'm not sure what
>the effect of higher g might have on running speed...it might actually
>make it faster for a sprint, which is what baseball players do.
>
>All of which is going to totally screw up the stats. Batters are going
>to have a bit more time to watch the pitch coming in, which is going to
>improve their chance of getting a hit, and once the hit has been
>fielded, it's going to take the ball longer to be thrown to first base,
>which is going to make batting averages go way up. Runners attempting
>to steal bases will have a better chance at success, and so on.
>Changing the gravitational field in which it's played, completely
>changes the nature of the game.
Sure of that?
The home run won't exist anymore--no batter is going to be able to put
a ball over the fence. The fielders will also operate closer in--the
same need to put more energy into vertical motion shortens the range
of the hits. The time from a hit to when the ball reaches the base
should if anything drop slightly.
I also expect that running speed is slowed by at least the same ratio
as throwing speed.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:42 pm
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Loren Pechtel wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:38:36 -0500, Don Sample
> wrote:
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> >When Austin brought baseball with him to Grayson, he made very certain
> >that they kept the original game as unchanged as possible, including
> >keeping the dimensions of the baseball field.
> >
> >But they really should have changed it. Grayson has a 1.17 g
> >gravitational field, so hit balls aren't going to go as far, fielders
> >can't throw as far, and possibly most important: thrown balls around the
> >infield take longer to get there (This is a little counter intuitive,
> >but in a higher g field, given the same strength of throwing arm, to get
> >the same distance on a thrown ball, it has to be thrown in a higher
> >arcing trajectory, giving it a lower ground speed.) I'm not sure what
> >the effect of higher g might have on running speed...it might actually
> >make it faster for a sprint, which is what baseball players do.
> >
> >All of which is going to totally screw up the stats. Batters are going
> >to have a bit more time to watch the pitch coming in, which is going to
> >improve their chance of getting a hit, and once the hit has been
> >fielded, it's going to take the ball longer to be thrown to first base,
> >which is going to make batting averages go way up. Runners attempting
> >to steal bases will have a better chance at success, and so on.
> >Changing the gravitational field in which it's played, completely
> >changes the nature of the game.
>
> Sure of that?
>
> The home run won't exist anymore--no batter is going to be able to put
> a ball over the fence.
Actually, the official baseball rules *don't* specify the distance to
the fence, and it varies by quite a bit from field to field (and just
where on any particular field you measure it, since many baseball fields
are built in stadiums that also host football, and other such sports.)
Major league fields have fences that may be as close as 300 feet, or as
far as 430 feet. (Some historic fields had fences over 500 feet from
home plate.) Since all Grayson games will be played in domed stadiums,
they would tend toward the smaller sizes.
> The fielders will also operate closer in--the
> same need to put more energy into vertical motion shortens the range
> of the hits. The time from a hit to when the ball reaches the base
> should if anything drop slightly.
But that't won't affect how far something like a ground ball, which
makes up the majority of single base hits, goes by much.
>
> I also expect that running speed is slowed by at least the same ratio
> as throwing speed.
>
> If anything the game should be lower scoring!
But that's still a difference.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:01 pm
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Loren Pechtel wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:38:36 -0500, Don Sample
> wrote:
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> >When Austin brought baseball with him to Grayson, he made very certain
> >that they kept the original game as unchanged as possible, including
> >keeping the dimensions of the baseball field.
> >
> >But they really should have changed it. Grayson has a 1.17 g
> >gravitational field,
<SNIP>
> >All of which is going to totally screw up the stats. Batters are going
> >to have a bit more time to watch the pitch coming in, which is going to
> >improve their chance of getting a hit, and once the hit has been
> >fielded, it's going to take the ball longer to be thrown to first base,
> >which is going to make batting averages go way up. Runners attempting
> >to steal bases will have a better chance at success, and so on.
> >Changing the gravitational field in which it's played, completely
> >changes the nature of the game.
>
> Sure of that?
>
> The home run won't exist anymore--no batter is going to be able to put
> a ball over the fence.
That's not true. What's true is that there will be fewer* balls hit
over the fence. Moreover, inside the park home runs should still
exit.
*What on Earth will be a 500 foot home run would go about 460 feet,
I think.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:44 am
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"Don Sample" wrote in message
> In article ,
> "Drak Bibliophile" wrote:
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>> "deowll" wrote in message
>>
>> >
>> > "Don Sample" wrote in message
>> >
>> >> When Austin brought baseball with him to Grayson, he made very certain
>> >> that they kept the original game as unchanged as possible, including
>> >> keeping the dimensions of the baseball field.
>> >>
>> >> But they really should have changed it. Grayson has a 1.17 g
>> >> gravitational field, so hit balls aren't going to go as far, fielders
>> >> can't throw as far, and possibly most important: thrown balls around
>> >> the
>> >> infield take longer to get there (This is a little counter intuitive,
>> >> but in a higher g field, given the same strength of throwing arm, to
>> >> get
>> >> the same distance on a thrown ball, it has to be thrown in a higher
>> >> arcing trajectory, giving it a lower ground speed.) I'm not sure what
>> >> the effect of higher g might have on running speed...it might actually
>> >> make it faster for a sprint, which is what baseball players do.
>> >>
>> >> All of which is going to totally screw up the stats. Batters are
>> >> going
>> >> to have a bit more time to watch the pitch coming in, which is going
>> >> to
>> >> improve their chance of getting a hit, and once the hit has been
>> >> fielded, it's going to take the ball longer to be thrown to first
>> >> base,
>> >> which is going to make batting averages go way up. Runners attempting
>> >> to steal bases will have a better chance at success, and so on.
>> >> Changing the gravitational field in which it's played, completely
>> >> changes the nature of the game.
>> >>
>> > I suppose aritifical gravity could fix it but they are used to it their
>> > way. Not going to happen.
>> >
>
>> Plus, over the generations Graysons would adapt to the higher gravities.
>
> I'm not sure that the adaptations to higher gravity would translate into
> being able to throw a faster pitch. They would tend toward making
> people more massive. It might give the advantages of taking a lot of
> steroids to a slugger, but it would take away from the nimbleness needed
> for a short-stop.
>
> And any sort of gravity adaptation would take centuries, far beyond
> Austin's lifetime.
You can adapt as an individual to the level of exercise you do in your life
time especially if you start out young. I would expect more body
failures/injuries and disabilities showing up at a younger age as joints
wore out sooner. More complete genetic adaption waits on selection to
knock out the unfit. In a higher gravity you had better be agile or you will
get hurt.
>
> (OTOP, if I'm right about how higher gravity would affect hitting, and
> running speeds, Austin might see the the improvement in batting
> averages, and higher scoring games, as proof that his move to Grayson
> was part of GOD'S PLAN.)
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:47 am
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"Loren Pechtel" wrote in message
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:38:36 -0500, Don Sample
> wrote:
>
>>When Austin brought baseball with him to Grayson, he made very certain
>>that they kept the original game as unchanged as possible, including
>>keeping the dimensions of the baseball field.
>>
>>But they really should have changed it. Grayson has a 1.17 g
>>gravitational field, so hit balls aren't going to go as far, fielders
>>can't throw as far, and possibly most important: thrown balls around the
>>infield take longer to get there (This is a little counter intuitive,
>>but in a higher g field, given the same strength of throwing arm, to get
>>the same distance on a thrown ball, it has to be thrown in a higher
>>arcing trajectory, giving it a lower ground speed.) I'm not sure what
>>the effect of higher g might have on running speed...it might actually
>>make it faster for a sprint, which is what baseball players do.
>>
>>All of which is going to totally screw up the stats. Batters are going
>>to have a bit more time to watch the pitch coming in, which is going to
>>improve their chance of getting a hit, and once the hit has been
>>fielded, it's going to take the ball longer to be thrown to first base,
>>which is going to make batting averages go way up. Runners attempting
>>to steal bases will have a better chance at success, and so on.
>>Changing the gravitational field in which it's played, completely
>>changes the nature of the game.
>
> Sure of that?
>
> The home run won't exist anymore--no batter is going to be able to put
> a ball over the fence. The fielders will also operate closer in--the
> same need to put more energy into vertical motion shortens the range
> of the hits. The time from a hit to when the ball reaches the base
> should if anything drop slightly.
>
If the air is thicker as it should be You might have some sort of point but
these guys ought to be more than strong enough to knock the snot out of a
ball.
> I also expect that running speed is slowed by at least the same ratio
> as throwing speed.
They are going to have good traction and a lot of muscle which is good on a
sprinter.
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:47:49 -0500, "deowll" wrote:
>> The home run won't exist anymore--no batter is going to be able to put
>> a ball over the fence. The fielders will also operate closer in--the
>> same need to put more energy into vertical motion shortens the range
>> of the hits. The time from a hit to when the ball reaches the base
>> should if anything drop slightly.
>>
>If the air is thicker as it should be You might have some sort of point but
>these guys ought to be more than strong enough to knock the snot out of a
>ball.
I'm not talking about air drag. I'm talking about the fact that the
same strength won't send the ball nearly as far as more of it has to
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:14 am
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"Loren Pechtel" wrote in message
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:47:49 -0500, "deowll" wrote:
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>>> The home run won't exist anymore--no batter is going to be able to put
>>> a ball over the fence. The fielders will also operate closer in--the
>>> same need to put more energy into vertical motion shortens the range
>>> of the hits. The time from a hit to when the ball reaches the base
>>> should if anything drop slightly.
>>>
>>If the air is thicker as it should be You might have some sort of point
>>but
>>these guys ought to be more than strong enough to knock the snot out of a
>>ball.
>
> I'm not talking about air drag. I'm talking about the fact that the
> same strength won't send the ball nearly as far as more of it has to
> be expended on sending it up into the air.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:10 am
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"deowll" wrote:
> "Loren Pechtel" wrote in message
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> > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:47:49 -0500, "deowll" wrote:
> >
> >>> The home run won't exist anymore--no batter is going to be able to put
> >>> a ball over the fence. The fielders will also operate closer in--the
> >>> same need to put more energy into vertical motion shortens the range
> >>> of the hits. The time from a hit to when the ball reaches the base
> >>> should if anything drop slightly.
> >>>
> >>If the air is thicker as it should be You might have some sort of point
> >>but
> >>these guys ought to be more than strong enough to knock the snot out of a
> >>ball.
> >
> > I'm not talking about air drag. I'm talking about the fact that the
> > same strength won't send the ball nearly as far as more of it has to
> > be expended on sending it up into the air.
>
> Then you better go back and start thinking about the drag because it is
> seriously going to slow the ball.
I don't think that there's reason to think that Grayson has a much
higher atmospheric pressure than we do.
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"Don Sample" wrote in message
> In article ,
> "deowll" wrote:
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>> "Loren Pechtel" wrote in message
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>> > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:47:49 -0500, "deowll" wrote:
>> >
>> >>> The home run won't exist anymore--no batter is going to be able to
>> >>> put
>> >>> a ball over the fence. The fielders will also operate closer in--the
>> >>> same need to put more energy into vertical motion shortens the range
>> >>> of the hits. The time from a hit to when the ball reaches the base
>> >>> should if anything drop slightly.
>> >>>
>> >>If the air is thicker as it should be You might have some sort of point
>> >>but
>> >>these guys ought to be more than strong enough to knock the snot out of
>> >>a
>> >>ball.
>> >
>> > I'm not talking about air drag. I'm talking about the fact that the
>> > same strength won't send the ball nearly as far as more of it has to
>> > be expended on sending it up into the air.
>>
>> Then you better go back and start thinking about the drag because it is
>> seriously going to slow the ball.
>
> I don't think that there's reason to think that Grayson has a much
> higher atmospheric pressure than we do.
>
If it doesn't it _should_ have a significantly denser atmosphere at the
surface. With the planets composition being what it is it should be very
active geologically with more out gassing. The higher gravity would compress
what it has more even if it had exactly the same amount of atmosphere.
Even a slight change in atmospheric pressure is going to have a major impact
on the ballistics of a baseball. It does on Earth between sea level cities
and high altitude cities.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:02 am
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In article ,
"deowll" wrote:
> "Don Sample" wrote in message
>
> > In article ,
> > "deowll" wrote:
> >
> >> "Loren Pechtel" wrote in message
> >>
> >> > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:47:49 -0500, "deowll" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> The home run won't exist anymore--no batter is going to be able to
> >> >>> put
> >> >>> a ball over the fence. The fielders will also operate closer in--the
> >> >>> same need to put more energy into vertical motion shortens the range
> >> >>> of the hits. The time from a hit to when the ball reaches the base
> >> >>> should if anything drop slightly.
> >> >>>
> >> >>If the air is thicker as it should be You might have some sort of point
> >> >>but
> >> >>these guys ought to be more than strong enough to knock the snot out of
> >> >>a
> >> >>ball.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not talking about air drag. I'm talking about the fact that the
> >> > same strength won't send the ball nearly as far as more of it has to
> >> > be expended on sending it up into the air.
> >>
> >> Then you better go back and start thinking about the drag because it is
> >> seriously going to slow the ball.
> >
> > I don't think that there's reason to think that Grayson has a much
> > higher atmospheric pressure than we do.
> >
>
> If it doesn't it _should_ have a significantly denser atmosphere at the
> surface. With the planets composition being what it is it should be very
> active geologically with more out gassing. The higher gravity would compress
> what it has more even if it had exactly the same amount of atmosphere.
And yet Venus, with a surface gravity which is lower than Earth's by
about the same margin that Grayson's is higher, has a surface
atmospheric pressure that is 90 times Earth's.
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