Hellraiser: Hellseeker

I'm sorry, but this just baffles me. This movie, along with Inferno, was
quite similar to the first one in tone and psychological drama. Yes, there
weren't as many deep characters dished out in the same movie time, but I
chalk that up to writing prowess and can forgive someone not being able to
quite reach Clive's level ... but it's still interesting to watch and at
it's core, the first Hellraiser was about destruction of the soul. To me,
that is. This was similar.

But this had something extra that I thought absolutely rocked: Kirsty is
showing the effects of her exposure to Hell. She's kind of on her way to
being a Cenobite and when I finished the movie, that's the first thing I
thought. Actually, a whole movie about her becoming a Cenobite hit me, but
I'm going to keep that to myself for now, because if my writing career takes
off ... and I get the chance to submit something to the Hellraiser powers
that be ... well, I don't want to spoil it.

But here's what really, really bothers me. You hardly saw Pinhead in the
first one. He was only credited as Lead Cenobite. He works better that way.
They tried to make a whole movie around him, or more accurately, his human
soul, in Hellraiser III, and look how that went over (though it was all
worth it to witness Elliott's sacrifice at the end). I think Pinhead works
much better as a glimpsed character.

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-jimr
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"Mark Derricutt" <mark.RemoveThis@talios.com> wrote in message
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 > Giovanni Wassen wrote:
 >
  > > Just bought the dvd. Weird mixed feelings. It's not bad, but not good
  > > either. To much mind trickery and stuff and far to less Pinhead.
  > > It's no Hellraiser anymore, it's just another B-movie without any real
  > > horror.
 >
 > I enjoyed it, but it reminded me of one of those late night TV
 > horror-movie-series adaptations of the 80s.
 >
 > --
 > Discouragement is a dissatisfaction with the past, a distaste for the
 > present, and a distrust of the future - Maree De Jong, CLCA.
 >
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I agree totally Jimr

The recent movies at the very least seem more similar in tone/psychological
drama to the original movies - you spoke it perfectly. The only movie that
was a complete abomination was III, with the insane slasher Pinhead, and the
retarded, comical cenobites. (parts of Bloodline were awful too, but it had
SOME good parts).

The recent flicks aren't GREAT....but they certainly aren't awful as some
would say.
- Joe

"jimr" <jim RemoveThis @ramsdens.net> wrote in message
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> I'm sorry, but this just baffles me. This movie, along with Inferno, was
> quite similar to the first one in tone and psychological drama. Yes, there
> weren't as many deep characters dished out in the same movie time, but I
> chalk that up to writing prowess and can forgive someone not being able to
> quite reach Clive's level ... but it's still interesting to watch and at
> it's core, the first Hellraiser was about destruction of the soul. To me,
> that is. This was similar.
>
> But this had something extra that I thought absolutely rocked: Kirsty is
> showing the effects of her exposure to Hell. She's kind of on her way to
> being a Cenobite and when I finished the movie, that's the first thing I
> thought. Actually, a whole movie about her becoming a Cenobite hit me, but
> I'm going to keep that to myself for now, because if my writing career
> takes
> off ... and I get the chance to submit something to the Hellraiser powers
> that be ... well, I don't want to spoil it.
>
> But here's what really, really bothers me. You hardly saw Pinhead in the
> first one. He was only credited as Lead Cenobite. He works better that
> way.
> They tried to make a whole movie around him, or more accurately, his human
> soul, in Hellraiser III, and look how that went over (though it was all
> worth it to witness Elliott's sacrifice at the end). I think Pinhead works
> much better as a glimpsed character.
>
> --
>
> -jimr
> http://www.ramsdens.net/
>
> "Mark Derricutt" <mark RemoveThis @talios.com> wrote in message
> news:cctmn2$g4n@library1.airnews.net...
>> Giovanni Wassen wrote:
>>
>> > Just bought the dvd. Weird mixed feelings. It's not bad, but not good
>> > either. To much mind trickery and stuff and far to less Pinhead.
>> > It's no Hellraiser anymore, it's just another B-movie without any real
>> > horror.
>>
>> I enjoyed it, but it reminded me of one of those late night TV
>> horror-movie-series adaptations of the 80s.
>>
>> --
>> Discouragement is a dissatisfaction with the past, a distaste for the
>> present, and a distrust of the future - Maree De Jong, CLCA.
>>
>> Mark Derricutt --- mark@ talios.com --- http://www.talios.com
>
>
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