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jwes

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 11:12 am
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I have an opportuinty to buy a fine used book store. It currently has
no internet presence. I am trying to estimate how much it could bring
in online. There are about 150,000 collectable quality books (hardbound
with dust jacket in good or better condition), and maybe 50,000
paperback books. Could someone help me to estimate potential internet
sales ?

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johnastovall

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 6:43 pm
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 11:04 pm
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Buying a bookstore is a great way to make a small fortune.

Assuming, of course, that you started with a large fortune.

Lawrence Person
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 5:42 am
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On 7 May 2005 11:12:00 -0700, "jwes" wrote:

>I have an opportuinty to buy a fine used book store. It currently has
>no internet presence. I am trying to estimate how much it could bring
>in online. There are about 150,000 collectable quality books (hardbound
>with dust jacket in good or better condition), and maybe 50,000
>paperback books. Could someone help me to estimate potential internet
>sales ?

You need to spend some time doing research. There are no easy answers
to the question you ask. If you have a working inventory that
includes titles and a basic description (and if you don't, you should
have one before you plunk down money on that shop), spend a few
hundred hours looking up titles on AddAll.com and see what others are
asking for comparable copies.

Frankly, I'd ignore the paperbacks - with a very few exceptions, they
aren't worth listing on-line.

In any case, you're going to have to spend some intense hours in
research, but nobody said being a shop-owner was easy.
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The People's Poet

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:34 am
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wrote:
> Buying a bookstore is a great way to make a small fortune.
>
> Assuming, of course, that you started with a large fortune.
>
> Lawrence Person
> Lame Excuse Books
> http://home.austin.rr.com/lperson/lame.html

I agree with you.

Very lame excuses for books.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 11:02 am
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On 7 May 2005 23:04:51 -0700, wrote:

>Buying a bookstore is a great way to make a small fortune.
>
>Assuming, of course, that you started with a large fortune.
>
>Lawrence Person
>Lame Excuse Books
>http://home.austin.rr.com/lperson/lame.html


Damn it. Beat me to it.

Cheers,

John
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jwes

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 11:47 am
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I apparently did not make myself clear. The question was not on pricing
books, but on estimating how many books a large used bookstore might
sell online in a year, assuming competitive pricing.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 1:53 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 1:54 pm
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The key issue is what value does the current owner put on the books in
the store? The chances are that he's creamed off the best for himself
and has left you with the dross that he can't sell. The internet is
awash with books that just won't sell. Unless you are convinced that he
has a large stock of books that have never been exposed to the
internet, it seems quite risky. But if he's cherry-picked the best
titles, you are on a loser.

The books that sell online are the very rare ones. If you have little
biblio knowledge you won't know that until you list one of them for $20
and then get flooded with orders. And even then you're obligated to
fulfill the first order so you won't benefit anyway.

My advice would be: unless the dealer can give you a satisfactory
reassurance that this stock is either very valuable or else unexposed
to the internet, value the books extremely low. 95% of what he has is
probably unsaleable. By all means pay whatever you want for the
building - that's a separate issue - but be wary about the book stock.
Unless you have stumbled across an aged bookseller who has never used
the internet, you'll likely get ripped off. Most booksellers have
closed down their shops to concentrate on selling from their spare room
at home because the overheads are intimidating; take my word for it,
they've done that for a reason.

Good luck either way.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:49 am
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jwes wrote:
> I have an opportuinty to buy a fine used book store. It currently has
> no internet presence. I am trying to estimate how much it could bring
> in online. There are about 150,000 collectable quality books
(hardbound
> with dust jacket in good or better condition), and maybe 50,000
> paperback books. Could someone help me to estimate potential internet
> sales ?

Depends on what the books are and how much work you're willing to put
into it. Does the seller have an inventory system already setup with
these books in it? Can you link the current system to an online system
easily? Are you planning on running the shop and an internet site and
selling the same book in both places? Or do you just want to offload
these books and not acquire anymore to sell? There are many choices in
how you sell used books online. You can have a standalone site (like I
do) which gives you greater flexibility in how your books are displayed
and allows you the power to link up any existing computer inventory
systems you already have (or would be purchasing) with your online
inventory system. This would allow you to list the same books online
that you have in your store and whichever place sells it first, it can
be removed automatically from both systems. Alternatively, you can
list your books with a consolidator site such as ABE or Amazon or Half.
This reduces the amount of marketing and promotion you would have to
do but be prepared to pay commissions to them for each book sold. To
figure out a price estimate you could expect to receive for each book,
take a subset and start searching online. Realize that you won't sell
all of them and the ones you do sell should be pretty darn good to
warrant the amount of work it will require. Don't loose heart though
because if done right, it can be the best job in the world!

Melinda
www.bargainbookloft.com
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