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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:28 am
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Hi
I wonder how Jack died, since he did long before the other of his
friends like Ginsberg and Burroughs?
And if anyone can give me a good tips of any books to read about his
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:43 pm
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In article <c5980ad.0311100728.145155e3 DeleteThis @posting.google.com>,
palssonse DeleteThis @home.se (Henrick P?lsson) wrote:
>I wonder how Jack died, since he did long before the other of his
>friends like Ginsberg and Burroughs?
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.litkicks.com/BeatPages/page.jsp?what=JackKerouac" target="_blank">http://www.litkicks.com/BeatPages/page.jsp?what=JackKerouac</a>
That's a good short biography- although not a terribly happy one. Basically
he died of a brain haemorhage brought on by alcohol abuse.
The general address of the site is:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/LitKicks.html" target="_blank">http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/LitKicks.html</a>
You can branch out from there to pretty well anywhere to do with the Beats.
Have a look. It's all interesting.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:43 pm
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peter.DeleteThis@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote in message news:<BBD5628E9668B42F0D.DeleteThis@192.168.0.2>...
> In article <c5980ad.0311100728.145155e3.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>,
> palssonse.DeleteThis@home.se (Henrick P?lsson) wrote:
>
> >I wonder how Jack died, since he did long before the other of his
> >friends like Ginsberg and Burroughs?
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.litkicks.com/BeatPages/page.jsp?what=JackKerouac</font" target="_blank">http://www.litkicks.com/BeatPages/page.jsp?what=JackKerouac</font</a>>
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> That's a good short biography- although not a terribly happy one. Basically
> he died of a brain haemorhage brought on by alcohol abuse.
> The general address of the site is:
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/LitKicks.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/LitKicks.html</font</a>>
>
> You can branch out from there to pretty well anywhere to do with the Beats.
> Have a look. It's all interesting.
Thanks!
Myself love Kerouac, but I´ve only reading two books by Kerouac "on
the road" and "Dharma Bums" which I liked a lot. I think I like more
Burroughs and his book Queer than I liked "on the road" and Dharma
Bums." But didnt all the beats like Ginsberg and Burroughs drink a lot
of alcohol like Kerouac did, had he a big alcohol problem and that
hasnt Ginsberg and Burroughs? since ginsberg and Burroughs died in the
90s. Didnt Aids took Ginsberg life? What died Burroughs? the aged or
something else?
I love them all and I´m glade I find those guys who have change my
life.
cheers!
Henrick
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:06 am
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In article <c5980ad.0311101537.340b53e3.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>,
palssonse.TakeThisOut@home.se (Henrick P?lsson) wrote:
>But didnt all the beats like Ginsberg and Burroughs drink a lot
>of alcohol like Kerouac did, had he a big alcohol problem and that
>hasnt Ginsberg and Burroughs?
They certainly had major drug habits at various times, presumably drank
too, but Kerouac had a bigger drink problem than Ginsberg or Burroughs, and
he killed himself with booze.
I think if you keep reading, it's all there.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:06 am
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peter.DeleteThis@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote in message news:<BBD5D8719668C44575.DeleteThis@192.168.0.2>...
> In article <c5980ad.0311101537.340b53e3.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>,
> palssonse.DeleteThis@home.se (Henrick P?lsson) wrote:
>
> >But didnt all the beats like Ginsberg and Burroughs drink a lot
> >of alcohol like Kerouac did, had he a big alcohol problem and that
> >hasnt Ginsberg and Burroughs?
>
> They certainly had major drug habits at various times, presumably drank
> too, but Kerouac had a bigger drink problem than Ginsberg or Burroughs, and
> he killed himself with booze.
>
> I think if you keep reading, it's all there.
Yeah, Kerouac definately took to the booze, where Burroughs was more
the ardent junkie, and Ginsberg seems to've been mostly a weed man,
with acid doses when appropriate.
Will
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:28 am
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Kerouac didn't die of a brain hemmorage - he died when the small blood
vessels in his esophagus burst. This happens when your liver shuts down a
certain way and your blood pressure goes way up. This is called the
'classic drunkard's death.' My sister-in-law died that way. She was 45.
Kerouac was 48.
Ginsberg, Burroughs, Huncke, and Corso died in their 70s and 80s of
age-related problems. Ginsberg did not have AIDS.
peter.DeleteThis@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:
> In article <c5980ad.0311101537.340b53e3.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>,
> palssonse.DeleteThis@home.se (Henrick P?lsson) wrote:
>
> >But didnt all the beats like Ginsberg and Burroughs drink a lot
> >of alcohol like Kerouac did, had he a big alcohol problem and that
> >hasnt Ginsberg and Burroughs?
>
> They certainly had major drug habits at various times, presumably drank
> too, but Kerouac had a bigger drink problem than Ginsberg or Burroughs,
> and he killed himself with booze.
>
> I think if you keep reading, it's all there.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:28 am
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Burroughs died of a heart attack, ginsberg of cancer
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> peter.RemoveThis@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote in message
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> > In article <c5980ad.0311101537.340b53e3.RemoveThis@posting.google.com>,
> > palssonse.RemoveThis@home.se (Henrick P?lsson) wrote:
> >
> > >But didnt all the beats like Ginsberg and Burroughs drink a lot
> > >of alcohol like Kerouac did, had he a big alcohol problem and that
> > >hasnt Ginsberg and Burroughs?
> >
> > They certainly had major drug habits at various times, presumably drank
> > too, but Kerouac had a bigger drink problem than Ginsberg or Burroughs,
and
> > he killed himself with booze.
> >
> > I think if you keep reading, it's all there.
>
> Yeah, Kerouac definately took to the booze, where Burroughs was more
> the ardent junkie, and Ginsberg seems to've been mostly a weed man,
> with acid doses when appropriate.
> Will
>
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:28 am
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"marsha" <duchovney66 RemoveThis @insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> Burroughs died of a heart attack, ginsberg of cancer
True.
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> > > In article <c5980ad.0311101537.340b53e3 RemoveThis @posting.google.com>,
> > > palssonse RemoveThis @home.se (Henrick P?lsson) wrote:
> > >
> > > >But didnt all the beats like Ginsberg and Burroughs drink a lot
> > > >of alcohol like Kerouac did, had he a big alcohol problem and that
> > > >hasnt Ginsberg and Burroughs?
> > >
> > > They certainly had major drug habits at various times, presumably
drank
> > > too, but Kerouac had a bigger drink problem than Ginsberg or
Burroughs,
> and
> > > he killed himself with booze.
> > >
> > > I think if you keep reading, it's all there.
> >
> > Yeah, Kerouac definately took to the booze, where Burroughs was more
> > the ardent junkie, and Ginsberg seems to've been mostly a weed man,
> > with acid doses when appropriate.
> > Will
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:36 pm
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"marsha" <duchovney66.RemoveThis@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:<D0gsb.175369$Fm2.155556@attbi_s04>...
> Burroughs died of a heart attack, ginsberg of cancer
Thanks, I dindt know that Ginsberg died of Cancer I thought It was Aids.
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> > > In article <c5980ad.0311101537.340b53e3.RemoveThis@posting.google.com>,
> > > palssonse.RemoveThis@home.se (Henrick P?lsson) wrote:
> > >
> > > >But didnt all the beats like Ginsberg and Burroughs drink a lot
> > > >of alcohol like Kerouac did, had he a big alcohol problem and that
> > > >hasnt Ginsberg and Burroughs?
> > >
> > > They certainly had major drug habits at various times, presumably drank
> > > too, but Kerouac had a bigger drink problem than Ginsberg or Burroughs,
> and
> > > he killed himself with booze.
> > >
> > > I think if you keep reading, it's all there.
> >
> > Yeah, Kerouac definately took to the booze, where Burroughs was more
> > the ardent junkie, and Ginsberg seems to've been mostly a weed man,
> > with acid doses when appropriate.
> > Will
> >
> >
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marsha wrote:
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> Burroughs died of a heart attack, ginsberg of cancer
> "Will Dockery" <dockery58.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > peter.DeleteThis@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote in message
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> > > In article <c5980ad.0311101537.340b53e3.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>,
> > > palssonse.DeleteThis@home.se (Henrick P?lsson) wrote:
> > >
> > > >But didnt all the beats like Ginsberg and Burroughs drink a lot
> > > >of alcohol like Kerouac did, had he a big alcohol problem and that
> > > >hasnt Ginsberg and Burroughs?
> > >
> > > They certainly had major drug habits at various times, presumably drank
> > > too, but Kerouac had a bigger drink problem than Ginsberg or Burroughs,
> and
> > > he killed himself with booze.
> > >
> > > I think if you keep reading, it's all there.
> >
> > Yeah, Kerouac definately took to the booze, where Burroughs was more
> > the ardent junkie, and Ginsberg seems to've been mostly a weed man,
> > with acid doses when appropriate.
> > Will
In /Poet's Choice/, Ginsberg says (using more words): "Took two
buttons dried peyote, sat to typewriter in middle of friend's
living-room floor, wrote 'Howl, Part II'." The /form/ of the
statement indicates something of a routine.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:37 pm
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Jack died in a trailor court in 1969 at his mother's.
Linda
Henrick P?lsson <palssonse DeleteThis @home.se> wrote in message
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> Hi
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> I wonder how Jack died, since he did long before the other of his
> friends like Ginsberg and Burroughs?
>
> And if anyone can give me a good tips of any books to read about his
> life?
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"Linda Scheimann" <gebhard DeleteThis @niia.net> wrote in message news:<bpjjbs$1p6jvb$1@ID-131262.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> Jack died in a trailor court in 1969 at his mother's.
Linda
I wrote a short piece on the last day of Kerouac recently, for a print
magazine... I'll look it up later, and post it here...
Will
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> Henrick P?lsson <palssonse DeleteThis @home.se> wrote in message
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> > Hi
> >
> > I wonder how Jack died, since he did long before the other of his
> > friends like Ginsberg and Burroughs?
> >
> > And if anyone can give me a good tips of any books to read about his
> > life?
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