King of Foxes (contains Spoilers)

Well, given the name of the next book, Exiles Return.... If the Duke
returns, I'm sure he'd be after Tal in some way!!

Am I just dense, or is King of Foxes not for sale in the US yet? I've
gotten mine from Amazon.UK not too long ago, but just check Amazon.COM and
says still not available. And I'm wondering if I'll be buying Exiles Return
via the same method...

Kinda sucks, I read King of Foxes in 2 days, now I'm gonna have to wait
MONTHS for more..

 >
 > I think we'll see Tal again because the Duke is still alive... and
 > Leso may not reallllly be dead. Bad guys have a tendency to do that.
 > ; )
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On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 02:07:05 GMT, "BelgarathTheAncientOne"
<BelgarathTheAncientOne.TakeThisOut@NoYahoo.SpamCom> wrote:

 >Well, given the name of the next book, Exiles Return.... If the Duke
 >returns, I'm sure he'd be after Tal in some way!!
 >
 >Am I just dense, or is King of Foxes not for sale in the US yet? I've
 >gotten mine from Amazon.UK not too long ago, but just check Amazon.COM and
 >says still not available. And I'm wondering if I'll be buying Exiles Return
 >via the same method...

You're not dense. I believe it won't be released until April.

Ray has explained that his US distributor likes to release books in
the Fall, whereas the in the UK Spring is preferred.

Silly mortals. ; )

 >Kinda sucks, I read King of Foxes in 2 days, now I'm gonna have to wait
 >MONTHS for more..
 >
  >>
  >> I think we'll see Tal again because the Duke is still alive... and
  >> Leso may not reallllly be dead. Bad guys have a tendency to do that.
  >> ; )


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mynameisjerome.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (J) wrote in message news:<b729f388.0401041402.58d5905e.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>...

 >
 > I got the impression that Talwin/Talon wouldn't be such a prominent
 > charachter in the next book. Any thoughts about this or the mysterious
 > rift Leso Varen was working on ?
 >
 >
 >
 > J


What do you guys think of the Rift that Leso Varen was working on ?
Ray said that at least once this series Magnus would be taking a trip
to the Tsurani home world, so hopefully we'll get to see some Black
Robes.

And do you think we'll be seeing Tal return to the Masters Court ? Pug
did say that he could get him pardoned in Roldem .....

And one last thing ...... what sort of blade does Talwin use ? In
Talon of the Silver Hawk it seems kinda general and i get the
impression he was using a long sword, but in King of Foxes it mentions
him choosing a rapier from the Prison Armoury. Any help from anyone
here or Mr Feist Himself would be appreciated ?


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J <mynameisjerome.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
 > him choosing a rapier from the Prison Armoury. Any help from anyone
 > here or Mr Feist Himself would be appreciated ?

I've got the impression that he's been using mainly rapier. Moreover,
rapier would be easier to use with the left hand (if you found a
rapier with a left-handed hilt) because of its weight.

<rant>
I still get a bit
miffed when Ray or someone else refers to rapier simply as a thrusting
weapon, when it's actually used for both cutting and thrusting in the
early stages of its development (which, I assume, Midkemia is about since
firearms haven't been developed there). Also, it is often referred to as a
relatively short sword when it's usually much longer than the regular
broad or long sword (According to many swordsmasters of the middle
ages (Ghisliero, for example), the quillions of a rapier should at
least reach its wielder's navel)...
</rant>

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J <mynameisjerome DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b729f388.0401071215.616e21bf@posting.google.com...
 > mynameisjerome DeleteThis @hotmail.com (J) wrote in message
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 > And one last thing ...... what sort of blade does Talwin use ? In
 > Talon of the Silver Hawk it seems kinda general and i get the
 > impression he was using a long sword, but in King of Foxes it mentions
 > him choosing a rapier from the Prison Armoury. Any help from anyone
 > here or Mr Feist Himself would be appreciated ?
 >
 >
 > J

I would have to say it would be a rapier, also helps when you consider that
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 06:51:53 +0000 (UTC), Marko Susimetsa
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 >J <mynameisjerome.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
  >> him choosing a rapier from the Prison Armoury. Any help from anyone
  >> here or Mr Feist Himself would be appreciated ?
 >
 >I've got the impression that he's been using mainly rapier. Moreover,
 >rapier would be easier to use with the left hand (if you found a
 >rapier with a left-handed hilt) because of its weight.
 >
 ><rant>
 >I still get a bit
 >miffed when Ray or someone else refers to rapier simply as a thrusting
 >weapon, when it's actually used for both cutting and thrusting in the
 >early stages of its development (which, I assume, Midkemia is about since
 >firearms haven't been developed there). Also, it is often referred to as a
 >relatively short sword when it's usually much longer than the regular
 >broad or long sword (According to many swordsmasters of the middle
 >ages (Ghisliero, for example), the quillions of a rapier should at
 >least reach its wielder's navel)...
 ></rant>
 >
The problem with describing weapons is that many of the names were
applied to massively different weapons.

It is misleading to assume that because guns aren't present in
Midkemia it's at the same stage as earth was pre-guns.

Ray has stated that the Midkemian gods don't allow guns (well, that's
not entirely true, apparently in the campaign there were some that
worked in a small area and stopped if they were taken out of the
area), I'm not a history expert but I'd have thought that you could
certainly case for the Eastern section of the Kingdom to be a closer
match to renaissance than anything before it
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Mad Hamish <h_laws DeleteThis @aardvark.net.au> wrote:
 > The problem with describing weapons is that many of the names were
 > applied to massively different weapons.
 > It is misleading to assume that because guns aren't present in
 > Midkemia it's at the same stage as earth was pre-guns.

You're right, of course. The name 'rapier' was especially popular for
almost any slender straight blade in the 15th and 16th centuries, be it
edged or not. Still, I'd like to read some explanation on what has caused
the abandonment of heavy armor and the development of light thrusting
swords in Midkemia. On Earth, this was due to the development of firearms.

It would be easier to understand if the Kingdom was extremely peaceful and
never at war (thus, no need for heavy armor and weapons), but the books
make it sound as if they have to fight against someone all the time...

Well, perhaps its a leap of faith that one must take...

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 >You're right, of course. The name 'rapier' was especially popular for
 >almost any slender straight blade in the 15th and 16th centuries, be it
 >edged or not. Still, I'd like to read some explanation on what has caused
 >the abandonment of heavy armor and the development of light thrusting
 >swords in Midkemia. On Earth, this was due to the development of firearms.
 >
 >It would be easier to understand if the Kingdom was extremely peaceful and
 >never at war (thus, no need for heavy armor and weapons), but the books
 >make it sound as if they have to fight against someone all the time...
 >
 >Well, perhaps its a leap of faith that one must take...
 >
 >--
 >Marko Susimetsä

That may be a reasonable assumption, that they are at war with someone all the
time. Go back to Renaissance-era Europe and all you reead about is this little
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