King Kelson's Bride and Derry

<hayarts RemoveThis @tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:<416437db$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>...
 > A couple of things puzzle me about Derry in King Kelson's Bride.
 > The first is - how on earth are they going to avoid telling him what
 > happened at the end of the book? He's bound to notice something doesn't
 > quite add up.
 > And the second is - why isn't he married yet? I mean, given that Alaric and
 > Duncan are both unavailable in their various ways, I'd have thought he'd
 > have been quite a catch.
 > Lesley

Erasing memories is something that Deryni are good at it. Those
closest to the event could be counted on not to bring things up.

As to marriage, right women hasn't come along.


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JJMJR45 DeleteThis @PRODIGY.NET (Jerry Maher) wrote:

 ><hayarts DeleteThis @tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:<416437db$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>...
  >> A couple of things puzzle me about Derry in King Kelson's Bride.
  >> And the second is - why isn't he married yet? I mean, given that Alaric and
  >> Duncan are both unavailable in their various ways, I'd have thought he'd
  >> have been quite a catch.
  >> Lesley
 >
 >As to marriage, right women hasn't come along.

And who (or what) would the right woman be? Certainly they'd have to be
comfortable around Deryni, as they'd be in close contact with Richenda and
Araxie.

One interesting thought: could the right woman be Deryni?

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"Terry O'Brien" <DragonMage.RemoveThis@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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 > One interesting thought: could the right woman be Deryni?
 >
 > Terry

I think she'd have to be. After all, Derry is Deryni in name at least
(well, almost....)
<groans> I think all the studying has done something peculiar to my brain!

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These are both really good questions. I've been wondering about the
first one myself. Derry loses nearly a day-- when he finally wakes up,
all the wedding festivities are going to be over and surely he's going
to wonder what the heck happened. Doesn't Azim say that he isn't going
to wake up until tomorrow?

  Even if no one says anything, surely Derry will notice that all by
himself?unless there's further tampering with his memory-- to make him
think that he attended the wedding festivities?

  Okay, so Azim blurred the fact that the royal house of Torenth has been
messing about in Derry's mind again. Derry's not stupid, however.
Unless the memories were totally taken away-- and I don't think they
were; I think they were just blurred -- he's going to figure out that
something Deryni was up. About him. Again. And I don't think he's gonna
be happy about it. In fact, from what I infer in the text (P.460), I
suspect that there's concern about Derry's sanity if they don't do
something about the memories.

hayarts.DeleteThis@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 > A couple of things puzzle me about Derry in King Kelson's Bride.
 > The first is - how on earth are they going to avoid telling him what
 > happened at the end of the book? He's bound to notice something doesn't
 > quite add up.
 > And the second is - why isn't he married yet? I mean, given that Alaric and
 > Duncan are both unavailable in their various ways, I'd have thought he'd
 > have been quite a catch.

  Not married yet? Yes, surely he must provide an heir for his earldom,
but he'd have to be released from service to a certain Deryni duke to do
that, I would think, and his primary loyalty to Morgan is so deep and
strong that he can even courageously move past his fear of magic when
Alaric asks it of him. Then again, as someone else said, maybe he just
hasn't found the right woman yet. I *like* Terry's suggestion of a
Deryni woman being the right woman. They're in relatively short supply
at the Court in Gwynedd, but who knows? Katherine's more than capable of
surprising all of us... or maybe this is fodder for fan fiction...
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"Julianne Toomey-Kautz" <JulianneTK RemoveThis @Kautzlaw.com> wrote in message
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 > These are both really good questions. I've been wondering about the
 > first one myself. Derry loses nearly a day-- when he finally wakes up,
 > all the wedding festivities are going to be over and surely he's going
 > to wonder what the heck happened. Doesn't Azim say that he isn't going
 > to wake up until tomorrow?
 >
 > Even if no one says anything, surely Derry will notice that all by
 > himself?unless there's further tampering with his memory-- to make him
 > think that he attended the wedding festivities?
 >
 > Okay, so Azim blurred the fact that the royal house of Torenth has been
 > messing about in Derry's mind again. Derry's not stupid, however.
 > Unless the memories were totally taken away-- and I don't think they
 > were; I think they were just blurred -- he's going to figure out that
 > something Deryni was up. About him. Again. And I don't think he's gonna
 > be happy about it. In fact, from what I infer in the text (P.460), I
 > suspect that there's concern about Derry's sanity if they don't do
 > something about the memories.

Julianne, you're thinking along exactly the same lines as I am about the
memories.
However, something did occur to me about the marriage situation - maybe he's
quietly been married for years and the missus is just back at the Earldom
running things for him?
Lesley
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:26:39 +0100, hayarts wrestled with a keyboard, and
this emerged:

 > And the second is - why isn't he married yet? I mean, given that Alaric and
 > Duncan are both unavailable in their various ways, I'd have thought he'd
 > have been quite a catch.

Maybe he's gay, and has been using his service to Morgan as an excuse to
delay the unpleasant duty of securing a succession.

regards,
B
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in article pan.2004.10.12.20.57.12.420479 RemoveThis @resistance-is-fruitful.net, Beth
Johnson at spamsink0 RemoveThis @resistance-is-fruitful.net wrote on 10/12/04 4:57 PM:

 > On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:26:39 +0100, hayarts wrestled with a keyboard, and
 > this emerged:
 >
  >> And the second is - why isn't he married yet? I mean, given that Alaric and
  >> Duncan are both unavailable in their various ways, I'd have thought he'd
  >> have been quite a catch.
 >
 > Maybe he's gay, and has been using his service to Morgan as an excuse to
 > delay the unpleasant duty of securing a succession.
 >
 > regards,
 > B

If he is, I think he's doing a good job hiding it...seems to me he's got an
eye for the ladies.

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Beth Johnson <spamsink0 DeleteThis @resistance-is-fruitful.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.10.12.20.57.12.420479 DeleteThis @resistance-is-fruitful.net>...
 > On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:26:39 +0100, hayarts wrestled with a keyboard, and
 > this emerged:
 >
  > > And the second is - why isn't he married yet? I mean, given that Alaric and
  > > Duncan are both unavailable in their various ways, I'd have thought he'd
  > > have been quite a catch.
 >
 > Maybe he's gay, and has been using his service to Morgan as an excuse to
 > delay the unpleasant duty of securing a succession.


Interesting...but I had the feeling Derry was a ladies' man. I think
he just hasn't found the right woman. And I agree that he'll probably
marry a Deryni woman. Morgan spends a good deal of time at court,
leaving Richenda alone at Coroth, so I'm sure Derry could leave his
wife at his estate too.

I would think Derry would definitely have questions about what
happened at the wedding or what he doesn't remember and would be angry
that the Torenthi Royals messed with his mind again. But I would
think finding that out and dealing with it would be better than
pretending it never happened. And what if someone who thinks he
remembers talks about it in front of him? Could Teymuraz somehow use
Derry again at a later date? Or use Derry's "forgotten" memories?
Can blurred memories later be unblurred to harm the person in
question?

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On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:27:24 -0700, Susan wrestled with a keyboard, and
this emerged:

  >> Maybe he's gay, and has been using his service to Morgan as an excuse to
  >> delay the unpleasant duty of securing a succession.
 >
 > Interesting...but I had the feeling Derry was a ladies' man. I think
 > he just hasn't found the right woman.

He wouldn't be the first to put on a show; nor the last to find a score of
women attracted to him by his sensitive nature.

regards,
Beth
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"Beth Johnson" <spamsink0 DeleteThis @resistance-is-fruitful.net> wrote in message
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 > On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:27:24 -0700, Susan wrestled with a keyboard, and
 > this emerged:
 >
   > >> Maybe he's gay, and has been using his service to Morgan as an excuse
to
   > >> delay the unpleasant duty of securing a succession.
  > >
 > He wouldn't be the first to put on a show; nor the last to find a score of
 > women attracted to him by his sensitive nature.
 >
 > regards,
 > Beth
 > --
 > (o)< Beth Johnson
 > / \ Springfield MA USA
 > _\ w Seiryoku zenryo; jitta kyoe.
 > "You can *never* read too much Musashi."
 >

He was shocked when Wencit kissed him in High Deryni, though.
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:46:09 +0100, hayarts wrestled with a keyboard, and
this emerged:

> He was shocked when Wencit kissed him in High Deryni, though.

I'd be shocked if Wencit kissed me, too; and AFAIK, I'm a straight girl. A
violation, is a violation.

regards,
Beth
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 19:46:09 +0100, hayarts wrestled with a keyboard, and
this emerged:

> He was shocked when Wencit kissed him in High Deryni, though.

Ew! Who wouldn't be?


Beth
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