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Since: Dec 06, 2003 Posts: 812
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:37 am
Post subject: How The Kzin Can Win Archived from groups: rec>arts>sf>written, others (more info?)
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| How the Kzin can finally win: Have a kzin telepath put on a thought
amplifier helmet (like the ones used by the thrint to control entire
planets). Said kzinti telepath could then control the human race!
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Since: Aug 21, 2006 Posts: 15
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:18 pm
Post subject: Re: How The Kzin Can Win [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: rec>arts>sf>written, others (more info?)
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On Jan 4, 3:37 am, Tim Bruening <tsbru... RemoveThis @pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> How the Kzin can finally win: Have a kzin telepath put on a thought
> amplifier helmet (like the ones used by the thrint to control entire
> planets). Said kzinti telepath could then control the human race!
The very idea violates a whole bunch of kzinti philosophical/moral
bases. Any true Hero would sooner die than allow such an abomination
to occur. The fact that plenty of telepaths would jump at the
opportunity only demonstrates (to "normal" kzinti) why it can not be
allowed. >> Stay informed about: How The Kzin Can Win |
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Since: Jan 04, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:27 pm
Post subject: Re: How The Kzin Can Win [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Jan 4, 12:18 pm, il... DeleteThis @rcn.com wrote:
> On Jan 4, 3:37 am, Tim Bruening <tsbru... DeleteThis @pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
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> > How the Kzin can finally win: Have a kzin telepath put on a thought
> > amplifier helmet (like the ones used by the thrint to control entire
> > planets). Said kzinti telepath could then control the human race!
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> The very idea violates a whole bunch of kzinti philosophical/moral
> bases. Any true Hero would sooner die than allow such an abomination
> to occur. The fact that plenty of telepaths would jump at the
> opportunity only demonstrates (to "normal" kzinti) why it can not be
> allowed.
Besides, can you imagine helmet hair on a kzin? It's not pretty.
Eric Tolle >> Stay informed about: How The Kzin Can Win |
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Since: Feb 15, 2005 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:49 pm
Post subject: Re: How The Kzin Can Win [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: rec>arts>sf>written, others (more info?)
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On 2008-01-04, Tim Bruening <tsbrueni.RemoveThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> How the Kzin can finally win: Have a kzin telepath put on a thought
> amplifier helmet (like the ones used by the thrint to control entire
> planets). Said kzinti telepath could then control the human race!
Said kzinti telepath would pretty instantly break.
--
Aaron Denney
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Since: Jan 25, 2004 Posts: 29
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:24 pm
Post subject: Re: How The Kzin Can Win [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>books>larry-niven (more info?)
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On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:37:11 -0800, Tim Bruening
<tsbrueni.RemoveThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>How the Kzin can finally win: Have a kzin telepath put on a thought
>amplifier helmet (like the ones used by the thrint to control entire
>planets). Said kzinti telepath could then control the human race!
I know Kzinti telepaths can read minds, but can they exert control
over others? You can amplify zero ability all you like, but you'll
still have zero ability. >> Stay informed about: How The Kzin Can Win |
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Since: Jul 17, 2005 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:51 pm
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"Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni DeleteThis @pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
news:477DF037.1770E0BD@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
> How the Kzin can finally win: Have a kzin telepath put on a thought
> amplifier helmet (like the ones used by the thrint to control entire
> planets). Said kzinti telepath could then control the human race!
It would control any _Kzinti_ within range as well - and the Heroes would
never tolerate that.
--
Mike Stone - Peterborough, England
I don't know why anyone should think I'm insular.
Why, I even know the French for dentures - Aperitif! >> Stay informed about: How The Kzin Can Win |
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Since: Sep 10, 2007 Posts: 29
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:49 am
Post subject: Re: How The Kzin Can Win [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>books>larry-niven (more info?)
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In article <477DF037.1770E0BD.RemoveThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>, Tim Bruening wrote:
> How the Kzin can finally win: Have a kzin telepath put on a thought
> amplifier helmet (like the ones used by the thrint to control entire
> planets). Said kzinti telepath could then control the human race!
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Firstly, the large majority of the Kzinti would consider such a
tactic to be an un-warriorly action.
Secondly, what a lot of power to give to a telepath. You'd
better be sure of your telepath's motives. So get another telepath to
check on him. Hmmm, chicken and egg problem.
Paul Chafe was careful in Destiny's Forge [SPOILER] to obscure
the reason for confidence in Patriarch's Telepath.
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Aidan Karley,
Written at Fri, 04 Jan 2008 10:12 GMT, but posted later.
"Please turn your monitors off when you leave the building. Not only
does it save power, but the flickering of the monitors annoys the
pterosaur." >> Stay informed about: How The Kzin Can Win |
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Since: Dec 06, 2003 Posts: 812
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:13 am
Post subject: Re: How The Kzin Can Win [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: rec>arts>sf>written, others (more info?)
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ilya2.DeleteThis@rcn.com wrote:
> On Jan 4, 3:37 am, Tim Bruening <tsbru....DeleteThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> > How the Kzin can finally win: Have a kzin telepath put on a thought
> > amplifier helmet (like the ones used by the thrint to control entire
> > planets). Said kzinti telepath could then control the human race!
>
> The very idea violates a whole bunch of kzinti philosophical/moral
> bases. Any true Hero would sooner die than allow such an abomination
> to occur. The fact that plenty of telepaths would jump at the
> opportunity only demonstrates (to "normal" kzinti) why it can not be
> allowed.
Okay, have a Kzinti telepath find a Slaver amplifier helmet and put it on
without asking permission from non-telepathic Kzinti. >> Stay informed about: How The Kzin Can Win |
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Since: Dec 06, 2003 Posts: 812
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:14 am
Post subject: Re: How The Kzin Can Win [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Mike Stone wrote:
> "Tim Bruening" <tsbrueni.RemoveThis@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
> news:477DF037.1770E0BD@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us...
> > How the Kzin can finally win: Have a kzin telepath put on a thought
> > amplifier helmet (like the ones used by the thrint to control entire
> > planets). Said kzinti telepath could then control the human race!
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> It would control any _Kzinti_ within range as well - and the Heroes would
> never tolerate that.
Once a Kzinti telepath put on the helmet, how would any Hero stop him? >> Stay informed about: How The Kzin Can Win |
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Since: Sep 15, 2006 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:50 am
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Tim Bruening wrote:
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> ilya2.TakeThisOut@rcn.com wrote:
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>> On Jan 4, 3:37 am, Tim Bruening <tsbru....TakeThisOut@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>>> How the Kzin can finally win: Have a kzin telepath put on a thought
>>> amplifier helmet (like the ones used by the thrint to control entire
>>> planets). Said kzinti telepath could then control the human race!
>> The very idea violates a whole bunch of kzinti philosophical/moral
>> bases. Any true Hero would sooner die than allow such an abomination
>> to occur. The fact that plenty of telepaths would jump at the
>> opportunity only demonstrates (to "normal" kzinti) why it can not be
>> allowed.
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> Okay, have a Kzinti telepath find a Slaver amplifier helmet and put it on
> without asking permission from non-telepathic Kzinti.
>
Can Kzinti telepaths send? They seemed to only be receivers, to my
possibly faulty recall.
Cheers,
Gary B-) >> Stay informed about: How The Kzin Can Win |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:09 am
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"Gary R. Schmidt" wrote:
> Tim Bruening wrote:
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> > ilya2 DeleteThis @rcn.com wrote:
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> >> On Jan 4, 3:37 am, Tim Bruening <tsbru... DeleteThis @pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
> >>> How the Kzin can finally win: Have a kzin telepath put on a thought
> >>> amplifier helmet (like the ones used by the thrint to control entire
> >>> planets). Said kzinti telepath could then control the human race!
> >> The very idea violates a whole bunch of kzinti philosophical/moral
> >> bases. Any true Hero would sooner die than allow such an abomination
> >> to occur. The fact that plenty of telepaths would jump at the
> >> opportunity only demonstrates (to "normal" kzinti) why it can not be
> >> allowed.
> >
> > Okay, have a Kzinti telepath find a Slaver amplifier helmet and put it on
> > without asking permission from non-telepathic Kzinti.
> >
> Can Kzinti telepaths send? They seemed to only be receivers, to my
> possibly faulty recall.
An amplified Kzinti telepath receiver would be an immense intelligence asset,
maybe enough to enable the Kzin to win. >> Stay informed about: How The Kzin Can Win |
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