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carterba

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:37 pm
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Somebody is working on a translation of LOTR into Latin:
http://www.geocities.com/dominusanulorum/
Has anybody ever tried translating it into Elvish? Or Old English,
for that matter?

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danhenry

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:00 am Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 20 Feb 2004 16:37:09 -0800, in a fit of madness carterba.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (ben) declared: >Somebody is working on a translation of LOTR into Latin: >http://www.geocities.com/dominusanulorum/ >Has anybody ever tried translating it into Elvish? Or Old English, >for that matter? Not enough Elvish to do the translation, I think. Old English might be done by someone as an exercise. Does anyone know if it is being translated into Klingon? -- R. Dan Henry danhenry.DeleteThis@inreach.com<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:27 am Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> Does anyone know if it is being translated into Klingon? as if you didnt know it was originally written in klingon<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:54 am Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

ben <carterba.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote: > Somebody is working on a translation of LOTR into Latin: <font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.geocities.com/dominusanulorum/</font" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/dominusanulorum/</font</a>> > Has anybody ever tried translating it into Elvish? Or Old English, > for that matter? Presumably the extant Elvish vocabularies are insufficient for translating LotR; I don't think Tolkien invented enough words! There may be ways to work around this, but people who know more about Sindarin and Quenya (the two main Elvish languages) will be able to tell you more. I guess you might have the same (but a lesser) problem with Old English. Of course, if you managed to find the original Red Book... Christopher -- --- Reply clue: Saruman welcomes you to Spamgard<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

It seems "ben" wrote in rec.arts.books.tolkien: >Somebody is working on a translation of LOTR into Latin: >http://www.geocities.com/dominusanulorum/ And here I thought "anulus" had two n in it. Learn something new every day. I tried to look at the site, but I gave up waiting for the Geocities response. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Cortland County, New York, USA <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://OakRoadSystems.com" target="_blank">http://OakRoadSystems.com</a> Tolkien FAQs: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://Tolkien.slimy.com" target="_blank">http://Tolkien.slimy.com</a> (Steuard Jensen's site) Tolkien letters FAQ: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://users.telerama.com/~taliesen/tolkien/lettersfaq.html" target="_blank">http://users.telerama.com/~taliesen/tolkien/lettersfaq.html</a> FAQ of the Rings: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/ringfaq.htm" target="_blank">http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/ringfaq.htm</a> Encyclopedia of Arda: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm" target="_blank">http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm</a> more FAQs: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/faqget.htm" target="_blank">http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/faqget.htm</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: rec>arts>books>tolkien, others (more info?)

"Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown DeleteThis @fastmail.fm> skrev i en meddelelse news:MPG.1aa13100dcbb89798be92@news.odyssey.net... > It seems "ben" wrote in rec.arts.books.tolkien: > >Somebody is working on a translation of LOTR into Latin: > >http://www.geocities.com/dominusanulorum/ > And here I thought "anulus" had two n in it. Learn something new > every day. I thought so too, when I saw your post. Then I checked. "Anulus" means "ring" (and other ring-shaped objects, including "anus"); "annulus" is an adjective meaning "one year old", it seems, as does "annularis". Though I should presume that the two are closely related; "annus" means "year", and a year is a full circle of the seasons. Corvus.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:12 pm Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Raven (or somebody else of the same name) wrote in message <rbOZb.5270$Wr.4340@news.get2net.dk> thusly: > "Stan Brown" <the_stan_brown DeleteThis @fastmail.fm> skrev i en meddelelse > news:MPG.1aa13100dcbb89798be92@news.odyssey.net... >> It seems "ben" wrote in rec.arts.books.tolkien: >> >Somebody is working on a translation of LOTR into Latin: >> >http://www.geocities.com/dominusanulorum/ > >> And here I thought "anulus" had two n in it. Learn something new >> every day. > > I thought so too, when I saw your post. Then I checked. "Anulus" > means > "ring" (and other ring-shaped objects, including "anus"); "annulus" is an > adjective meaning "one year old", it seems, as does "annularis". Though I > should presume that the two are closely related; "annus" means "year", and > a year is a full circle of the seasons. > > Corvus. An annular eclipse is always so spelt, unless somebody can annul this assertion. -- Paul Townsend I put it down there, and when I went back to it, there it was GONE! Interchange the alphabetic elements to reply<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:56 am Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Prai Jei" <pvstownsend.RemoveThis@zyx-abc.fsnet.co.uk> skrev i en meddelelse news:c18bds$18e$4@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk... > An annular eclipse is always so spelt, unless somebody can annul this > assertion. I know. Hey, Meneldil! We've got another one! Annankákai.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:16 am Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: rec>arts>books>tolkien (more info?)

Prai Jei wrote: > annular > annul Although of Latin derivation, these words are English and conform to English orthography. The consonant is doubled in order to shorten the "a". -- Chris Csernica<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:17 am Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Christopher Kreuzer wrote: [snip] > Of course, if you managed to find the original Red Book... Since the Red Book was written in Westron, it might not have enough Elvish vocabulary in it either. -- Chris Csernica<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:43 am Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Chris Csernica <csernica RemoveThis @ihwy.com> wrote: > Christopher Kreuzer wrote: > > [snip] > >> Of course, if you managed to find the original Red Book... > > Since the Red Book was written in Westron, it might not have enough > Elvish vocabulary in it either. I've always wondered how much Elvish would be in the Red Book. Presumably Tolkien-the-translator got his Elvish from the Red Book. Christopher -- --- Reply clue: Saruman welcomes you to Spamgard<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Christopher Kreuzer wrote: > I've always wondered how much Elvish would be in the Red Book. > Presumably Tolkien-the-translator got his Elvish from the Red Book. Perhaps there was an Elvish primer included in the "Thain's Book" recension, or Bilbo appended an Elvish grammar and vocabulary to his "Translations from the Elvish". -- Chris Csernica<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"ben" <carterba RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message news:f360c6a3.0402201637.6541cab3@posting.google.com... > Somebody is working on a translation of LOTR into Latin: <font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.geocities.com/dominusanulorum/</font" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/dominusanulorum/</font</a>> > Has anybody ever tried translating it into Elvish? Or Old English, > for that matter? You can't understand LOTR unless you have read it in the original Klingon.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Prai Jei wrote: > > An annular eclipse is always so spelt, unless somebody can annul this > assertion. Then there's the biological phylum _Annelida_, comprising organisms with ring-shaped body segments. Its most familiar members are the earthworms. -- Odysseus<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: LOTR in Elvish? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In message <4045F2F1.77086D3B DeleteThis @yahoo-dot.ca>, Odysseus <odysseus1479-at DeleteThis @yahoo-dot.ca> wrote >Prai Jei wrote: >> >> An annular eclipse is always so spelt, unless somebody can annul this >> assertion. > >Then there's the biological phylum _Annelida_, comprising organisms >with ring-shaped body segments. Its most familiar members are the earthworms. > What in Middle-Earth are you doing in here? Has c.p.p got too hot for you? Love and kisses, -- Ms Givings<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: LOTR in Elvish?

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