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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:59 am
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<stremler.TakeThisOut@rohan.sdsu.edu> wrote in message
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> I think there might be a couple of other reasons why Aslan didn't say
> "look, you pumpkin-heads, her wand is the key to her power; don't do
> the head-on attack thing" -- one, this would have deprived Edmund of
> the chance to redeem himself (to himself, as Aslan had already redeemed
> him to the Deep Magic)
And this is exactly the point. And goes a fair way to useful speculation
the 'whys' of the problem of pain.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:56 pm
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Michael Stemper wrote:
> In article <m2d5h82vgb.fsf DeleteThis @enzym.rnd.uni-c.dk>, Peter B. Juul writes:
> >"Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling DeleteThis @hotmail.com> writes:
> >
> >> > An omnipotent being's rules are not worth that much. He can always
> >> > change the rules so that nobody will ever have known that they could
> >> > have been different.
> >>
> >> And you and I can cheat at solitaire. Not very satisfying, is it?
> >
> >Ah, but can an omnipotent being change a rule so that he doesn't know
> >it's been changed?
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> Well, first He has to make two rocks so big that He can't lift them;
> in the shape of four-sided triangles, of course...
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:58 pm
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:25 pm
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Bree wrote:
> On 3 Feb 2006 15:53:21 -0800, "Bart" <spambuster.TakeThisOut@jam.rr.com> wrote:
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> >Tim Bruening wrote:
> >> Beginning of Chapter 13: Peter credits Edmund with having broken the
> >> White Witch's wand so that she couldn't stone any more people. Edmund
> >> had the sense to go for the wand. No one else had the presence of mind
> >> to attack the wand instead of the witch. Why didn't anyone else have
> >> the common sense to break the wand?
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> I can imagine that: people being intimidated by the power coming from the
> wand, unable to withstand its magic -- and not thinking of simply attacking
> it as a physical object (from the side iirc). They might assume that the
> wand would stone them by touch if they tried, or that it would be protected
> by some other magic. Edmund had the courage to try it.
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> >> Why hadn't Aslan told Peter and his
> >> army to place a high priority on breaking the wand?
>
> A good point.
>
> >I suppose it may be that the big picture was to focus on defeating the
> >Witch's army and not on the details of a specific strategy for
> >defeating the Witch as an individual (even though, as an individual,
> >she had one of the most powerful weapons in the wand).
> >
> >It's one of those things that you don't think about at the time, but in
> >hindsight it was sort of like - duh - why didn't we think of that?
> >
> >Edmund was the only one that *did* think of it and is therefore praised
> >for his "presence of mind".
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> As for Aslan not suggesting it, I think this is one of several instances of
> story-telling and alle-er-woops, parallel thematic motifs, trumping common
> sense. Lewis said Edmund was fighting more fiercely than the others, so he
> would be trying harder to think of something new. As for him fighting
> harder -- iirc Lewis rather liked to quote "Those heresies men leave are
> hated most. 
In the movie, Edmund was instrumental in persuading Susan to stay and fight,
and Peter that all four should remain and fight. >> Stay informed about: LWW Book: Breaking The Witch's Wand |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:33 pm
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"darylgene@aol.com" wrote:
> It is intresting to see how values change. I watch my 15 year old
> grandson try to find cheat codes for games (there are times I can
> understand this, if you reach a block of some kind) and not think it
> spoils them. A century and a half ago people would, of course, assume
> that God was honorable, and, of course He himself iterates His
> constancy. In Jane Austin's time if you did the right thing even if it
> caused you pain, it was considered nobility, today it is considered
> somewhat foolish and self sacrificial (consider "The Bridges of Madison
> County".) Could God do something he ought not to, perhaps, but then He
> would be a different God. God always does the best, most loving thing,
> though to us it may not seem so, we really have no standard to judge,
> we are in a kind of a "Bruce Almighty" position.
I've read of God beating the tar out of Egypt in Moses' time, and deliberately
hardening the Pharaoh heart so that Pharaoh would defy God so that God could
send more plagues. >> Stay informed about: LWW Book: Breaking The Witch's Wand |
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