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the_stan_brown

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:29 pm
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It seems "latet" wrote in rec.arts.books.tolkien:
  >> Cirdan may have been the oldest Elf in ME at the time of the WotR --
  >> older than Galadriel.
 >
 >Was Cirdan as old as possible (created in Cuivienen by Iluvatar)
 >or born later of two parents?

I've noticed that you trim quotes (good) and don't quote the entire
article (would be bad).

But please _attribute_ your quotes. Without attributions, it is very
hard to follow discussions.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:00 pm
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latet (latet@wwwrrrrrrr.pl) wrote:
: As I guess, at Frodo's time, Galadriel was one of the
: oldest elves in Middle Earth. Were there many older than her? Who?
: Maybe someone of the dark elves?

well she clearly hadn't entered her third cycle of life, as she didn't
have a beard Wink

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 5:52 am
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buhrger DeleteThis @ecn.ab.ca wrote:
|| latet (latet@wwwrrrrrrr.pl) wrote:
||| As I guess, at Frodo's time, Galadriel was one of the
||| oldest elves in Middle Earth. Were there many older than her? Who?
||| Maybe someone of the dark elves?
||
|| well she clearly hadn't entered her third cycle of life, as she
|| didn't have a beard Wink

Can't they shave those beards? Or better yet, hot-wax 'em?
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:11 am
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Tar-Elenion wrote:
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 > According to the Annals of Aman Galadriel was born in VY 1362, and would
 > be @ 1300 sun years old by the time the Noldor went back to Middle-
 > earth. Add the about 7000 years in Middle-earth and that would put her
 > somewhere about 8300 to 8400 years old (ignoring the possible change).
 >
Yes: by my count she was approximately 1322 sun-years old at "the
first rising of the moon"; adding to that 597 years for the First
Age, 3441 for the Second, and 3020 of the Third, yields an age of
8380 or so.

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:40 pm
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Jim Muller <jimmuller.RemoveThis@noplace.com> wrote in message news:

> Also, given that many dark Elves (the Moriquendi,
> if I remember the terms right) were unacounted for from the
> pre-migration days, there could have been others that we just don't
> know about. They may be among us still, probably hiding somewhere.

They come into our houses at night and hide our car keys.


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(Msg. 21) Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 8:06 pm
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On 24 Mar 2004 17:40:38 -0800, jsolinas7.TakeThisOut@netscape.net (Flame of the
West) wrote:

>Jim Muller <jimmuller.TakeThisOut@noplace.com> wrote in message news:
>
>> Also, given that many dark Elves (the Moriquendi,
>> if I remember the terms right) were unacounted for from the
>> pre-migration days, there could have been others that we just don't
>> know about. They may be among us still, probably hiding somewhere.
>
>They come into our houses at night and hide our car keys.
>
And force coat hangers to breed (in the closets).

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:20 pm
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the softrat <softrat.TakeThisOut@pobox.com> wrote in message news:

> >They come into our houses at night and hide our car keys.
> >
> And force coat hangers to breed (in the closets).

They also confiscate one out of each pair of socks (never both).
Think how helpful it would be if *non*-matching socks
came into fashion!


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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:05 pm
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Jim Muller <jimmuller.RemoveThis@noplace.com> wrote in
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> The Sil, or perhaps an LOTR appendix, implies that Galadriel was the
> only Noldor ME-returnee who survived the 1st Age. Certainly Noldor
> survived, but they would have had to be offspring of the exiles. (Of
> course, an alternate interpretation is that Galadriel was the only
> surviving *royalty* but that others did survive who were not of the
> royal family per se, and may or may not have been 1st generation from
> Cuivienen.)


Not so, Maglor, one of Feanor's sons survived as well, though his fate
after the end of the 1st age is uncertain.

Idril, Turgon's daughter was born in Valinor and also survived, though
again, her fate and Tuor's after they departed is uncertain, the
Silmarillion clearly implies however that they survived, and Tuor was
counted among the Noldor.

That for "royal" ones as far as I remember, as for others, surely among the
exiles of Gondolin and Nargothrond that gathered in Balar at the end of the
1st age were some who came from Valinor, though this is only speculation.
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