Legacy Virus question

"Galactus" <seethough.RemoveThis@you.com> wrote in message
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 > Galactus <seethough.RemoveThis@you.com> wrote in
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  > > Isn't the virus suppose to be spreading towards the mutant population?
 >
 > I meant Wasn't

Actually it _was_ in the mutant population, and spreading towards the
human population. But it's all past tense, like you mentioned It's gone
now.

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Galactus wrote:
 > Isn't the virus suppose to be spreading towards the mutant population?
 > Psynapse is an inhuman and thus seems very strange that he would have it.
 > I really can't think of a good explaination for this. I was wondering how
 > Psynapse got infected with the legacy virus and if other species such as
 > the eternals, skrulls, atlanteans, etc.. would be infected with it

Well, there is no more Legacy Virus. It was wiped out.

What seems to have happened is that the virus mutated into different strains.
Each strain affected a different human offshoot. We know there was a human
strain, and an inhuman strain, but we never saw a strain for eternals,
atlanteans, etc.
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On 10 May 2004 04:17:46 GMT, blakgard.TakeThisOut@aol.coma.org (The Black
Guardian) wrote:

 >Galactus wrote:
  >> Isn't the virus suppose to be spreading towards the mutant population?
  >> Psynapse is an inhuman and thus seems very strange that he would have it.
  >> I really can't think of a good explaination for this. I was wondering how
  >> Psynapse got infected with the legacy virus and if other species such as
  >> the eternals, skrulls, atlanteans, etc.. would be infected with it
 >
 >Well, there is no more Legacy Virus. It was wiped out.
 >
 >What seems to have happened is that the virus mutated into different strains.
 >Each strain affected a different human offshoot. We know there was a human
 >strain, and an inhuman strain, but we never saw a strain for eternals,
 >atlanteans, etc.

There were also three different strains amongst the mutant population,
as Beast described. This was supposed to explain why some mutants
died quickly and others took years to croak...it makes sense, really.
Not to mention that there was a pretty wide range of symptoms that
some sufferers had and some didn't.

Lia


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"Lia Brown" <rook1.TakeThisOut@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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 > On 10 May 2004 04:17:46 GMT, blakgard.TakeThisOut@aol.coma.org (The Black
 > Guardian) wrote:
 >
  > >Galactus wrote:
   > >> Isn't the virus suppose to be spreading towards the mutant population?
   > >> Psynapse is an inhuman and thus seems very strange that he would have
it.
   > >> I really can't think of a good explaination for this. I was wondering
how
   > >> Psynapse got infected with the legacy virus and if other species such
as
   > >> the eternals, skrulls, atlanteans, etc.. would be infected with it
  > >
  > >Well, there is no more Legacy Virus. It was wiped out.
  > >
  > >What seems to have happened is that the virus mutated into different
strains.
  > >Each strain affected a different human offshoot. We know there was a
human
  > >strain, and an inhuman strain, but we never saw a strain for eternals,
  > >atlanteans, etc.
 >
 > There were also three different strains amongst the mutant population,
 > as Beast described. This was supposed to explain why some mutants
 > died quickly and others took years to croak...it makes sense, really.
 > Not to mention that there was a pretty wide range of symptoms that
 > some sufferers had and some didn't.

I wonder if this was going to be tied in to the Legacy virus story that
Warren Ellis seemed to hint at in Excalibur. Meggan and Douglock tried to
project what the infection vectors of the Legacy Virus were (She is
sensitive to natural patterns of life, he to detecting patterns in seemingly
random data). They concluded that there WAS no logical vector for the virus.

Alas it was never followed up (And went the same way as Douglock having the
cure to the Virus within him, but conveniently forgetting it thanks to
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On Mon, 10 May 2004 19:05:09 +0100, "Brian Doyle"
<No_spam DeleteThis @freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

 >I wonder if this was going to be tied in to the Legacy virus story that
 >Warren Ellis seemed to hint at in Excalibur. Meggan and Douglock tried to
 >project what the infection vectors of the Legacy Virus were (She is
 >sensitive to natural patterns of life, he to detecting patterns in seemingly
 >random data). They concluded that there WAS no logical vector for the virus.

Which was really the most incredible non-revelation of all time.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"CleV" <clJUNKv1 RemoveThis @balcab.ch> wrote in message
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 > On Mon, 10 May 2004 19:05:09 +0100, "Brian Doyle"
 > <No_spam RemoveThis @freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
 >
  > >I wonder if this was going to be tied in to the Legacy virus story that
  > >Warren Ellis seemed to hint at in Excalibur. Meggan and Douglock tried to
  > >project what the infection vectors of the Legacy Virus were (She is
  > >sensitive to natural patterns of life, he to detecting patterns in
seemingly
  > >random data). They concluded that there WAS no logical vector for the
virus.
 >
 > Which was really the most incredible non-revelation of all time.

True, but it was nice to see it acknowledged as being insanely illogical
_within the context of the story itself_. And they never DID explain why
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Galactus <seethough.RemoveThis@you.com> wrote in
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 > Isn't the virus suppose to be spreading towards the mutant population?
 > Psynapse is an inhuman and thus seems very strange that he would have
 > it. I really can't think of a good explaination for this. I was
 > wondering how Psynapse got infected with the legacy virus and if other
 > species such as the eternals, skrulls, atlanteans, etc.. would be
 > infected with it

First, the Legacy Virus is no more. It required Colossus be sacrificed
to the gods in order to stay their vengeance. (That's not the real
explanation, but it actually sounds more likely than the truth.)

As for Psynapse, I can't think of any reason why he'd be immune. Legacy
was aimed at mutants, but is known to have killed at least one
non-mutant, Moira MacTaggert. Since the Inhumans are an offshoot of
humanity, there's no reason to think they couldn't get it. In fact,
it's quite possible that the Terrigen Mist serves in place of the
"X-Factor" gene, making the results the same. The seclusion of the
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blakgard RemoveThis @aol.coma.org (The Black Guardian) wrote in
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 > Galactus wrote:
  >> Isn't the virus suppose to be spreading towards the mutant
  >> population? Psynapse is an inhuman and thus seems very strange that
  >> he would have it. I really can't think of a good explaination for
  >> this. I was wondering how Psynapse got infected with the legacy virus
  >> and if other species such as the eternals, skrulls, atlanteans, etc..
  >> would be infected with it
 >
 > Well, there is no more Legacy Virus. It was wiped out.
 >
 > What seems to have happened is that the virus mutated into different
 > strains. Each strain affected a different human offshoot. We know
 > there was a human strain, and an inhuman strain, but we never saw a
 > strain for eternals, atlanteans, etc.

I would have a hard time believing that an Eternal strain could ever
happen. I'm pretty sure they don't get sick, and I doubt this would be
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rook1 DeleteThis @sympatico.ca (Lia Brown) wrote in
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 > On 10 May 2004 04:17:46 GMT, blakgard DeleteThis @aol.coma.org (The Black
 > Guardian) wrote:

  >>Well, there is no more Legacy Virus. It was wiped out.
  >>
  >>What seems to have happened is that the virus mutated into different
  >>strains. Each strain affected a different human offshoot. We know
  >>there was a human strain, and an inhuman strain, but we never saw a
  >>strain for eternals, atlanteans, etc.
 >
 > There were also three different strains amongst the mutant population,
 > as Beast described. This was supposed to explain why some mutants
 > died quickly and others took years to croak...it makes sense, really.
 > Not to mention that there was a pretty wide range of symptoms that
 > some sufferers had and some didn't.

It doesn't make that much sense. If you used the AIDS analogy, you
still have some people who die quickly and others who continue to live
for years. I once dated a guy who had been HIV+ for over 10 years
before finding out, but he hadn't been sick in that time. He got it
from his ex, who was (unknown to either of them) positive at the time
they got together. They found out they were positive by chance. Others
might have gotten sick and died rather quickly without medication. I
think it just boils down to some people having better immune systems
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Dan McEwen wrote:
  >> Isn't the virus suppose to be spreading towards the mutant population?
  >> Psynapse is an inhuman and thus seems very strange that he would have
  >> it. I really can't think of a good explaination for this. I was
  >> wondering how Psynapse got infected with the legacy virus and if other
  >> species such as the eternals, skrulls, atlanteans, etc.. would be
  >> infected with it
 >
 > First, the Legacy Virus is no more. It required Colossus be sacrificed
 > to the gods in order to stay their vengeance. (That's not the real
 > explanation, but it actually sounds more likely than the truth.)
 >
 > As for Psynapse, I can't think of any reason why he'd be immune. Legacy
 > was aimed at mutants, but is known to have killed at least one
 > non-mutant, Moira MacTaggert. Since the Inhumans are an offshoot of
 > humanity, there's no reason to think they couldn't get it.

Especially considering that Inhumans don't have the immune system that
humans do.
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On 11 May 2004 02:22:59 GMT, Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
wrote:

 >As for Psynapse, I can't think of any reason why he'd be immune. Legacy
 >was aimed at mutants, but is known to have killed at least one
 >non-mutant, Moira MacTaggert.

Moira didn't die from Legacy---she hardly even seemed sick most of the
time. She died from injuries caused by the explosion at Muir. Since
she'd just found the cure, I'm sure she would have lived long enough
to see it implemented and thus survived the disease, had she not been
injured.

Lia


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On 11 May 2004 02:27:25 GMT, Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
wrote:

 >rook1@sympatico.ca (Lia Brown) wrote in
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 >
  >> On 10 May 2004 04:17:46 GMT, blakgard RemoveThis @aol.coma.org (The Black
  >> Guardian) wrote:

   >>>What seems to have happened is that the virus mutated into different
   >>>strains. Each strain affected a different human offshoot. We know
   >>>there was a human strain, and an inhuman strain, but we never saw a
   >>>strain for eternals, atlanteans, etc.
  >>
  >> There were also three different strains amongst the mutant population,
  >> as Beast described. This was supposed to explain why some mutants
  >> died quickly and others took years to croak...it makes sense, really.
  >> Not to mention that there was a pretty wide range of symptoms that
  >> some sufferers had and some didn't.
 >
 >It doesn't make that much sense. If you used the AIDS analogy, you
 >still have some people who die quickly and others who continue to live
 >for years. I once dated a guy who had been HIV+ for over 10 years
 >before finding out, but he hadn't been sick in that time. He got it
 >from his ex, who was (unknown to either of them) positive at the time
 >they got together. They found out they were positive by chance. Others
 >might have gotten sick and died rather quickly without medication. I
 >think it just boils down to some people having better immune systems
 >that other.

But that doesn't explain why Illyana basically fell apart in a short
time---Xavier and Moira remarked on her cellular structure
disintegrating (or a word like disintegrating, I forget). And then
there was Pyro, who suffered for years---had he not died just before
the cure came, he would have been the longest-lived known
survivor---and his symptoms came and went. He also had the widest
range of symptoms we ever saw, which I think is significant. Most
people had just one or two of the familiar symptoms, but he had a
whole bunch. His illness was very different from others'.

It seems to me that they can't have had the exact same disease,
because I don't see why it would vary so much, better immune systems
or not. And, well, Beast said there were 3 strains, so I guess we
have to take his word for it

Also, aren't there multiple strains of HIV? That's what I found when
I looked it up on Google.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.avert.org/hivtypes.htm" target="_blank">http://www.avert.org/hivtypes.htm</a>
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Lia


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"Lia Brown" <rook1.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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 > On 11 May 2004 02:27:25 GMT, Dan McEwen <dannyboymcny.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
 > wrote:

 > But that doesn't explain why Illyana basically fell apart in a short
 > time---Xavier and Moira remarked on her cellular structure
 > disintegrating (or a word like disintegrating, I forget).

Remember she'd been infected years earlier when she was a teenager, visting
the future, after she had got younger and died.... Is it me or are the
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