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Since: Jun 03, 2004 Posts: 1469
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:12 pm
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Liberal Racism: A Little Perspective
Both before and after her elevation to secretary of state, Condoleezza
Rice has been the target of a series of racist caricatures by liberal
cartoonists. Rush Limbaugh points out three: a Doonesbury strip by Garry
Trudeau that refers to her as "Brown Sugar," a Jeff Danziger cartoon
that portrays her as Prissy from "Gone With the Wind" (also the topic of
a Wall Street Journal editorial last month) and, most recently, a
Tuesday political cartoon from Pat Oliphant that depicts the
secretary-designate as a parrot with enormous lips. (This seems to be a
running feature; yesterday's Oliphant cartoon does it also, this time
with President Bush as a pirate.) Blogger Winfield Myers catalogues
other examples.
Limbaugh is incensed by these displays of bigotry and hypocrisy
(emphasis his):
"It is grotesque. It is insulting. It is vile. It is angry. It is
childish, and it is typical I think of what the left has become. They
claim to be holy [sic] than thou. They claim to be above all of us when
it comes to understanding the downtrodden and minorities. They claim to
be the only ones that have the ability to have the compassion and
understanding, and yet they get away with racism. They get away with
bigotry. They get away with sexism, and they get away with
homophobia--and in the case of Condoleezza Rice, they get away with an
attempted character destruction of a truly brilliant and accomplished
woman who came from nothing to become the first black female secretary
of state."
Myers echoes the point: "This is part and parcel of the left's embrace
of moral and intellectual nihilism, which in turn has led to a belief
that the ends for which they labor justify the means."
We don't really disagree with any of this, but it strikes us that the
outrage, while understandable, is perhaps a bit overwrought. It's not as
if the works of Trudeau, Danziger and Oliphant are going to provoke an
outbreak of lynching or cross-burning. These expressions of racial
prejudice don't actually diminish Rice's accomplishments, and they are
not going to prevent her from becoming one of the most powerful people
in the world. These cartoonists have merely proved to the world that
they are prejudiced against blacks who don't share their views--and
that's good to know.
The absence of outrage from the liberal sensitivity police, who would be
up in arms if a conservative cartoonist committed a similar offense (cf
the reaction to National Review's 1997 cover depicting the Clintons as
Asians, second item), shows that liberals are hypocrites when it comes
to race--and that, too, is useful to know.
We got an insight into contemporary liberal attitudes toward race on a
taxi ride not long ago. We were en route to Shea Stadium along with
fellow conservative commentator Joel Mowbray, and our driver was a
youngish Haitian woman who had her radio tuned to Air America. Mowbray
started a political discussion with her, and she told him that she
doesn't like Republicans because "they hate black people."
"Does President Bush hate Condi Rice and Colin Powell?" Mowbray asked,
to which she replied that Rice and Powell aren't "really black" because
they "don't think like black people."
The idea that black people are supposed to think in a certain way is, of
course, a racist assumption in itself. But what's most interesting about
this exchange is that our driver had in effect redefined race so that it
has nothing to do with race. When she said, "They hate black people,"
she meant merely, "They disagree with liberal ideology."
The charge of racism carries a certain sting because America has a long
history of real racism. But the progress the country has made on race,
especially over the past 40 years, has been nothing short of stunning.
Here we have a president whose detractors describe him as a "radical
conservative" appointing a black woman to replace a black man as the
most senior member of his cabinet.
Even the liberals who attack Rice on racial grounds don't have anything
against black people in positions of power per se. They're just
desperately upset because those on their side of the political fence no
longer have a monopoly on the belief in racial equality. They're lashing
out in an ugly way because they've lost the moral high ground.
It's good for the country that no one occupies that high ground
anymore--or, more precisely, that virtually everyone does. Secretary of
State Rice will stand as an example of the greatness of America, a
country where, after much struggle, people are judged not on the color
of their skin but on the content of their character. We're confident
that one day even liberals will appreciate this."
James Taranto
The WSJ
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Bingo!
Dr. Condoleezza Rice is a:
Real American.
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Since: Jul 16, 2004 Posts: 193
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:18 am
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In article <eecnd.60$Om2.1039@eagle.america.net>,
D. Spencer Hines <poguemidden.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Both before and after her elevation to secretary of state, Condoleezza
> Rice has been the target of a series of racist caricatures by liberal
> cartoonists. Rush Limbaugh points out three: a Doonesbury strip by Garry
> Trudeau that refers to her as "Brown Sugar," a Jeff Danziger cartoon
> that portrays her as Prissy from "Gone With the Wind" (also the topic of
> a Wall Street Journal editorial last month) and, most recently, a
> Tuesday political cartoon from Pat Oliphant that depicts the
> secretary-designate as a parrot with enormous lips.
Do you understand the art of caricature?
Without defending *any* of the above - they all seem to be based on a
flawed aspect of the USAian psychosis - could you suggest an alternative
'handle' that the cartoonists might grasp and exaggerate?
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Qercus magazine & FD Games www.finnybank.com www.acornuser.com
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:20 am
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In article <eecnd.60$Om2.1039@eagle.america.net>, D. Spencer Hines
<poguemidden.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> quoted Limbaugh:
> It is grotesque. It is insulting. It is vile. It is angry. It is childish
Please point out any great caricature that doesn't deserve the same
insults. That's what it's about.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:52 pm
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You left out a bit! I was especially fond of Rush's
(http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_111704/content/left_hits_new_low.guest.html)
curious criticism of the Daily Mirror:
'Now we go to the Daily Mirror, UK. The headline: "You Met the Monkey. Now
Meet His Trainer -- The hard-line right-winger President Bush is making the
world a dangerous place. If there were a monkey in the White House, and many
reckon there is, then his trainer would be the world's most powerful person.
In the case of George W. Bush, almost everything he knows about foreign
policy has been learnt," l-e-a-r-n-t, "from Condoleezza Rice." Once again,
mocking black speech, my good friends on the left. Do you realize how
utterly pathetic and hateful you people are beginning to appear?'
I'll admit it took me time before I'd 'learnt' what he was getting at.
Always a charmer.
"D. Spencer Hines" <poguemidden.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eecnd.60$Om2.1039@eagle.america.net...
> Liberal Racism: A Little Perspective
>
> Both before and after her elevation to secretary of state, Condoleezza
> Rice has been the target of a series of racist caricatures by liberal
> cartoonists. Rush Limbaugh points out three: a Doonesbury strip by Garry
> Trudeau that refers to her as "Brown Sugar," a Jeff Danziger cartoon
> that portrays her as Prissy from "Gone With the Wind" (also the topic of
> a Wall Street Journal editorial last month) and, most recently, a
> Tuesday political cartoon from Pat Oliphant that depicts the
> secretary-designate as a parrot with enormous lips. (This seems to be a
> running feature; yesterday's Oliphant cartoon does it also, this time
> with President Bush as a pirate.) Blogger Winfield Myers catalogues
> other examples.
>
> Limbaugh is incensed by these displays of bigotry and hypocrisy
> (emphasis his):
>
> "It is grotesque. It is insulting. It is vile. It is angry. It is
> childish, and it is typical I think of what the left has become. They
> claim to be holy [sic] than thou. They claim to be above all of us when
> it comes to understanding the downtrodden and minorities. They claim to
> be the only ones that have the ability to have the compassion and
> understanding, and yet they get away with racism. They get away with
> bigotry. They get away with sexism, and they get away with
> homophobia--and in the case of Condoleezza Rice, they get away with an
> attempted character destruction of a truly brilliant and accomplished
> woman who came from nothing to become the first black female secretary
> of state."
>
> Myers echoes the point: "This is part and parcel of the left's embrace
> of moral and intellectual nihilism, which in turn has led to a belief
> that the ends for which they labor justify the means."
>
> We don't really disagree with any of this, but it strikes us that the
> outrage, while understandable, is perhaps a bit overwrought. It's not as
> if the works of Trudeau, Danziger and Oliphant are going to provoke an
> outbreak of lynching or cross-burning. These expressions of racial
> prejudice don't actually diminish Rice's accomplishments, and they are
> not going to prevent her from becoming one of the most powerful people
> in the world. These cartoonists have merely proved to the world that
> they are prejudiced against blacks who don't share their views--and
> that's good to know.
>
> The absence of outrage from the liberal sensitivity police, who would be
> up in arms if a conservative cartoonist committed a similar offense (cf
> the reaction to National Review's 1997 cover depicting the Clintons as
> Asians, second item), shows that liberals are hypocrites when it comes
> to race--and that, too, is useful to know.
>
> We got an insight into contemporary liberal attitudes toward race on a
> taxi ride not long ago. We were en route to Shea Stadium along with
> fellow conservative commentator Joel Mowbray, and our driver was a
> youngish Haitian woman who had her radio tuned to Air America. Mowbray
> started a political discussion with her, and she told him that she
> doesn't like Republicans because "they hate black people."
>
> "Does President Bush hate Condi Rice and Colin Powell?" Mowbray asked,
> to which she replied that Rice and Powell aren't "really black" because
> they "don't think like black people."
>
> The idea that black people are supposed to think in a certain way is, of
> course, a racist assumption in itself. But what's most interesting about
> this exchange is that our driver had in effect redefined race so that it
> has nothing to do with race. When she said, "They hate black people,"
> she meant merely, "They disagree with liberal ideology."
>
> The charge of racism carries a certain sting because America has a long
> history of real racism. But the progress the country has made on race,
> especially over the past 40 years, has been nothing short of stunning.
> Here we have a president whose detractors describe him as a "radical
> conservative" appointing a black woman to replace a black man as the
> most senior member of his cabinet.
>
> Even the liberals who attack Rice on racial grounds don't have anything
> against black people in positions of power per se. They're just
> desperately upset because those on their side of the political fence no
> longer have a monopoly on the belief in racial equality. They're lashing
> out in an ugly way because they've lost the moral high ground.
>
> It's good for the country that no one occupies that high ground
> anymore--or, more precisely, that virtually everyone does. Secretary of
> State Rice will stand as an example of the greatness of America, a
> country where, after much struggle, people are judged not on the color
> of their skin but on the content of their character. We're confident
> that one day even liberals will appreciate this."
>
> James Taranto
> The WSJ
> --------------
>
> Bingo!
>
> Dr. Condoleezza Rice is a:
>
> Real American.
>
> DSH
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Since: Nov 15, 2004 Posts: 112
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:48 pm
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"John Cartmell" <john RemoveThis @cartmell.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4d10413e3bjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> In article <eecnd.60$Om2.1039@eagle.america.net>,
> D. Spencer Hines <poguemidden RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Both before and after her elevation to secretary of state, Condoleezza
> > Rice has been the target of a series of racist caricatures by liberal
> > cartoonists. Rush Limbaugh points out three: a Doonesbury strip by Garry
> > Trudeau that refers to her as "Brown Sugar," a Jeff Danziger cartoon
> > that portrays her as Prissy from "Gone With the Wind" (also the topic of
> > a Wall Street Journal editorial last month) and, most recently, a
> > Tuesday political cartoon from Pat Oliphant that depicts the
> > secretary-designate as a parrot with enormous lips.
>
> Do you understand the art of caricature?
Do you understand double-standard? What am I saying? The left
never appoints any minorities to cabinet positions, so the right
has never had the opportunity to "caricature" them.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:48 pm
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Mark Test wrote:
> "John Cartmell" <john.RemoveThis@cartmell.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4d10413e3bjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
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>>In article <eecnd.60$Om2.1039@eagle.america.net>,
>> D. Spencer Hines <poguemidden.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Both before and after her elevation to secretary of state, Condoleezza
>>>Rice has been the target of a series of racist caricatures by liberal
>>>cartoonists. Rush Limbaugh points out three: a Doonesbury strip by Garry
>>>Trudeau that refers to her as "Brown Sugar," a Jeff Danziger cartoon
>>>that portrays her as Prissy from "Gone With the Wind" (also the topic of
>>>a Wall Street Journal editorial last month) and, most recently, a
>>>Tuesday political cartoon from Pat Oliphant that depicts the
>>>secretary-designate as a parrot with enormous lips.
>>
>>Do you understand the art of caricature?
>
>
> Do you understand double-standard? What am I saying? The left
> never appoints any minorities to cabinet positions, so the right
> has never had the opportunity to "caricature" them.
>
> Mark
>
>
Untrue. But you knew that.
And the best part is, the minorities that the democrats appointed were
COMPETENT, as opposed to this crowd...
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:29 pm
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"Drew" <anicholson16.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Mark Test wrote:
> > "John Cartmell" <john.DeleteThis@cartmell.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:4d10413e3bjohn@cartmell.demon.co.uk...
> >
> >>In article <eecnd.60$Om2.1039@eagle.america.net>,
> >> D. Spencer Hines <poguemidden.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Both before and after her elevation to secretary of state, Condoleezza
> >>>Rice has been the target of a series of racist caricatures by liberal
> >>>cartoonists. Rush Limbaugh points out three: a Doonesbury strip by
Garry
> >>>Trudeau that refers to her as "Brown Sugar," a Jeff Danziger cartoon
> >>>that portrays her as Prissy from "Gone With the Wind" (also the topic
of
> >>>a Wall Street Journal editorial last month) and, most recently, a
> >>>Tuesday political cartoon from Pat Oliphant that depicts the
> >>>secretary-designate as a parrot with enormous lips.
> >>
> >>Do you understand the art of caricature?
> >
> >
> > Do you understand double-standard? What am I saying? The left
> > never appoints any minorities to cabinet positions, so the right
> > has never had the opportunity to "caricature" them.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
>
> Untrue. But you knew that.
>
> And the best part is, the minorities that the democrats appointed were
> COMPETENT, as opposed to this crowd...
>
Untrue. But you knew that.
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