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pyotr filipivich wrote:

> Like I said, its a copyright notice encoded in the Genome.


The copyright notice it's self?

That'd figure.
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Jeffrey MacHott
> <Raguleader RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote on Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:19:16 GMT in
> alt.books.david-weber :
>>> I'm not sure what DW thinks bone and connective tissue is.
>> I get the general impression that biosculpting would be fairly limited
>> in nature, sort of a high-tech plastic surgury. The job we saw in
>> "Crown of Slaves" on Princess Berry and Ruth Zilwicki (or was it the
>> other way around? I can't remember.
> It was Princess Ruth, and just plain Berry "the nice". Then it became
> Crown Princess Berry, now Queen Berry, aiming to become known to history as
> "Good Queen Berry."

Didn't they briefly consider calling her "Her Royal Mousiness" or
something like that?


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pyotr filipivich wrote:
> Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Jeffrey MacHott
> <Raguleader RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote on Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:16:55 GMT in
> alt.books.david-weber :
>> deowll wrote:
>>> In this case the rules are what ever facilitate the plot. Don't look to
>>> deep.
>> Heh, JMS, the guy who produced and wrote much of Babylon 5, used that as
>> an explanation for a number of science-related questions posed to him
>> about the show. B5 is known as one of the sci-fi shows with more "hard"
>> science in them, compared to the "Comic book science" of Star Trek and
>> Star Wars (not that much of the science in B5 tends to not work when
>> looked at closely, like using centrifuge sections to generate gravity on
>> space ships and stations, just that they tried a lot harder to make
>> things look "real"), but sometimes things just couldn't be explained
>> other than "Cause I wanted it to work that way".
>
> Ah, the most powerful force in the known universe: the author's desire.
>
> tschus
> pyotr

One of my friends refers to this as "Plotonium", a rare and
unpredictable element which can make anything work pretty much how the
author/producer wants it to. The White Star, the USS Defiant, IKS
Rotaran, and even the humble Serenity are all powered by Plotonium
(although in one episode of Firefly, the Serenity notably was NOT
powered by Plotonium).

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Baydlor wrote:
>> Somehow, I suspect that Anton & Victor can do bad cop, worse cop real,
>> real well. "Are you going to come quietly, or will I need earplugs?"
>>
>
>
> GOOD one!
>
> It may just be the fact it's 1:30 in the morning but I repeat..
>
> GOOD one
>
> ..oh where are the nanites, my sides hurt.....<g>..

I always figured Anton and Victor as "Bad Cop, Freaking Scary Dude Who
The Cop Found Somewhere"

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Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Jeffrey MacHott
<Raguleader.DeleteThis@netzero.net> wrote on Mon, 15 Jan 2007 07:23:31 GMT in
alt.books.david-weber :
>Baydlor wrote:
>>> Somehow, I suspect that Anton & Victor can do bad cop, worse cop real,
>>> real well. "Are you going to come quietly, or will I need earplugs?"
>>>
>>
>>
>> GOOD one!
>>
>> It may just be the fact it's 1:30 in the morning but I repeat..
>>
>> GOOD one
>>
>> ..oh where are the nanites, my sides hurt.....<g>..
>
>I always figured Anton and Victor as "Bad Cop, Freaking Scary Dude Who
>The Cop Found Somewhere"

Oh, you want to talk to the shift supervisor. Congratulations, I'm it.
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Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Jeffrey MacHott
<Raguleader RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote on Mon, 15 Jan 2007 07:20:26 GMT in
alt.books.david-weber :
>pyotr filipivich wrote:
>> Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Jeffrey MacHott
>> <Raguleader RemoveThis @netzero.net> wrote on Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:19:16 GMT in
>> alt.books.david-weber :
>>>> I'm not sure what DW thinks bone and connective tissue is.
>>> I get the general impression that biosculpting would be fairly limited
>>> in nature, sort of a high-tech plastic surgury. The job we saw in
>>> "Crown of Slaves" on Princess Berry and Ruth Zilwicki (or was it the
>>> other way around? I can't remember.
>> It was Princess Ruth, and just plain Berry "the nice". Then it became
>> Crown Princess Berry, now Queen Berry, aiming to become known to history as
>> "Good Queen Berry."
>
>Didn't they briefly consider calling her "Her Royal Mousiness" or
>something like that?

She wanted "Her Mousity", with "Her Incisorship" as the alternative.
She lost on those, but refused to use the Royal We. She'd be the only one
to use it, and They can't make her. Nyah!

Oh yeah.Eighteen years old, level headed, and fierce. More people are
going to get killed protecting her, and they wouldn't have it any other
way.

tschus
pyotr

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In article <h1mmq259e1btd3k8p93vrrhhae1cdmi570.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
pyotr filipivich <phamp.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Oh yeah.Eighteen years old, level headed, and fierce. More people are
> going to get killed protecting her, and they wouldn't have it any other
> way.

And she's been that old for at least two years now.

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Don Sample wrote:
> In article <h1mmq259e1btd3k8p93vrrhhae1cdmi570.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
> pyotr filipivich <phamp.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah.Eighteen years old, level headed, and fierce. More people are
>> going to get killed protecting her, and they wouldn't have it any other
>> way.
>
> And she's been that old for at least two years now.

Well, you know, people age more slowly with Regen, but that's just
silly. :*D

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"Loren Pechtel" <lorenpechtel DeleteThis @hotmail.invalid.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:34:43 -0600, "deowll" <deowll DeleteThis @bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> We have the Mesan nannites that certainly are capable of manipulation
>>> at that level but we don't know if they are benign or not. Mesa
>>> obviously doesn't care.
>>>
>>> The Manticoran ones seem capable of working at a gross scale and
>>> certainly could fix a bone but can they do the detail work like
>>> nerves? I can't recall anything we have seen that implies they can
>>> work at that level.
>>>
>>> It's also very expensive so far.
>>
>>HH is noted wondering why a certain crew member doesn't get a biosculpt.
>>Not
>>cheap but seemingly affordable.
>
> But that's not change at the nannite level like was done in Crown of
> Slaves. That's expen$$$ive.

You are using the same tech to get the same outcome; a change in appearance.
The more you want to change the more money it costs. This is normal.
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"pyotr filipivich" <phamp DeleteThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Offbreed <offbreed_106 DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
> wrote on Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:04:21 -0800 in alt.books.david-weber :
>>gS49 wrote:
>>> "Aahz Maruch" <aahz DeleteThis @pobox.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eo67fu$oqt$1@panix3.panix.com...
>>>> In article <dsample-E30790.14453711012007 DeleteThis @news.giganews.com>,
>>>> Don Sample <dsample DeleteThis @synapse.net> wrote:
>>>>> In article <eo5lon$jfs$1@panix3.panix.com>,
>>>>> aahz DeleteThis @pobox.com (Aahz Maruch) wrote:
>>>>>> I'm re-reading _At All Costs_, and the following question occurred to
>>>>>> me:
>>>>>> Anyone want to bet that the Manties are going to use the Mesan
>>>>>> nanotech
>>>>>> to restore Emily's nervous system?
>>>>> The Mesan's nanotech seems to be entirely unsuited to such things.
>>>>> turning people into robots is a lot different from repairing damaged
>>>>> nerves. The Mesan's nano-assassins are software. Emily's problems
>>>>> are
>>>>> hardware.
>>>> What I was thinking was that there has to be two-way feedback at the
>>>> nano-level for the Mesan tech to work. That means it could probably be
>>>> used to bridge over the gaps in Emily's nervous system, assuming that
>>>> the
>>>> nerves beyond her spinal cord aren't totally broken.
>>>>
>>>>> And Manticore has its own nano-tech, anyway. The nano-bots they used
>>>>> to
>>>>> swap Berry's and Ruth's appearance in Crown of Slaves is closer to
>>>>> what
>>>>> you need to fix Emily (Also Honor's arm, eye, and other damage.)
>>>> Arm and eye, yes; not so sure about neural issues.
>>>>
>>>> Come to think, I guess I'm surprised that even though regen doesn't
>>>> work,
>>>> there hasn't been anything said about cloned body parts. Obviously
>>>> Honor's body must have *some* kind of self-repair capability or she
>>>> wouldn't have survived so much...
>>>>
>>>
>>> She couldn't even have incorporated the robo-arm and -eye without
>>> normal healing. It would seen that the inability to accept
>>> Regen-a-Bit(TM)
>>> has to do with something genetic that prevents it from working--either
>>> blocking
>>> the process or, more likely, some molecular incompatibility that no-one
>>> has
>>> bothered to figure a way around.
>>
>>At All Costs, Chapt 16 (love having these stories on disc!):
>>
>>"You know what Honor's been through in terms of physical injury. Nothing
>>that's happened to her was as severe as what happened to you, but it was
>>more than enough to make her worry about passing her inability to
>>regenerate on to her children. Fortunately for her, her mother
>>happens-if I may be pardoned for blowing my own horn-to be one of the
>>Star Kingdom's leading geneticists. I made identifying the gene group
>>which prevents her from regenerating a personal project, and I found it
>>years ago. The problem child is a dominant, unfortunately, but it's not
>>associated with the locked sequences of the Meyerdahl modifications-if
>>it were, Alfred wouldn't regenerate either, and he does-so it's not
>>automatically selected for at fertilization. Once I'd determined that, I
>>also determined that she carries it only on the chromosome she received
>>from her father, and I've done a scan on her child. As a result of
>>which, I was able to reassure her that she hasn't passed it along to him."
>
> Like I said, its a copyright notice encoded in the Genome.
>

The sick thing is that something like this is going on with plants and
livestock. Humans are next.


>
> tschus
> pyotr
>
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"pyotr filipivich" <phamp.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but "deowll" <deowll.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net>
> wrote on Sun, 14 Jan 2007 19:12:01 -0600 in alt.books.david-weber :
>>
>>> So, it is possible for Manticore to turn the use of Mesan nanotech back
>>> on Mesa, just perhaps not with the same finesse that Beowulf would do.
>>> In
>>> a sense, Manticore is to Beowulf in bio-tech, as Haven is to Manticore
>>> in
>>> engineering: will just have to use a bigger hammer to overcome their
>>> disadvantages.
>>>
>>>
>>> tschus
>>
>>First people have to learn about the nano tech trick. At the point a lot
>>of
>>people are going to want to do something a lot less indirect than play
>>around with nano tech.
>
> Yeah, I can see it now:
>
> "Okay, now we are going to test your nanotech's ability to moderate
> pain. Prepare the baseball bat!"
>
> Somehow, I suspect that Anton & Victor can do bad cop, worse cop real,
> real well. "Are you going to come quietly, or will I need earplugs?"

Both could get brutal. Everybody that knows him is afraid of how brutal one
of these can get.

>
> "I take no enjoyment from your pain, this is for Science." (Okay,
> I've been reading Girl Genius again. "Bwahahahaha! ")
>
> I'll stop now.
>
>
> tschus
> pyotr
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> "Given our monstrous, overgrown government structure, any three letters
> chosen at random would probably designate an agency or part of a
> department that could be profitably abolished." Milton Freidman
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"Jeffrey MacHott" <Raguleader.RemoveThis@netzero.net> wrote in message
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> Baydlor wrote:
>>> Somehow, I suspect that Anton & Victor can do bad cop, worse cop real,
>>> real well. "Are you going to come quietly, or will I need earplugs?"
>>>
>>
>>
>> GOOD one!
>>
>> It may just be the fact it's 1:30 in the morning but I repeat..
>>
>> GOOD one
>>
>> ..oh where are the nanites, my sides hurt.....<g>..
>
> I always figured Anton and Victor as "Bad Cop, Freaking Scary Dude Who The
> Cop Found Somewhere"
>

Bad cop and a terminator he picked up somewhere.


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>
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In article <RCfrh.3618$Oe2.3512@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
"deowll" <deowll RemoveThis @bellsouth.net> wrote:

> "pyotr filipivich" <phamp RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:dp4mq29unvdfd50kdn0qiags312ts43b0f@4ax.com...

> > Like I said, its a copyright notice encoded in the Genome.
> >
>
> The sick thing is that something like this is going on with plants and
> livestock. Humans are next.

That's part of the reason why the folks at the Human Genome Project
released it into the public domain.

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