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calvin

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:26 pm
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.... ; wolves there were and ravening dogs and great weasels
full of the thirst of blood whose nostrils could take scent
moons old through running water, or whose eyes find among
shingle footsteps that had passed a lifetime since; ...

- from The Book of Lost Tales II - The Fall of Gondolin

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Paul S. Person

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:06 am
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:26:58 -0700 (PDT), calvin
<crice5.RemoveThis@windstream.net> wrote:

>... ; wolves there were and ravening dogs and great weasels
>full of the thirst of blood whose nostrils could take scent
>moons old through running water, or whose eyes find among
>shingle footsteps that had passed a lifetime since; ...
>
>- from The Book of Lost Tales II - The Fall of Gondolin

While those abilities are quite impressive, wouldn't there be a danger
that they might pursue "footsteps that had passed a lifetime since"
rather than more recent prey?

Then again, that might be exactly was was needed for the "cold case"
files.
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"A portent, therefore, happens not contrary to nature,
but contrary to what we know as nature."

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Noel Q. von Schneiffel

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:33 am
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On 11 Aug., 22:26, calvin <cri... DeleteThis @windstream.net> wrote:
> ... ; wolves there were and ravening dogs and great weasels
> full of the thirst of blood whose nostrils could take scent
> moons old through running water, or whose eyes find among
> shingle footsteps that had passed a lifetime since; ...
>
> - from The Book of Lost Tales II - The Fall of Gondolin

Thanks a lot, Calvin! This quote brings back happy childhood memories
of my first years as prophet of Tolkien, when I went to the zoo and
read this passage to the weasels over and over again, to see how they
might react. I never got any result, partly because my father always
dragged me away from the weasel territorium after just four days, and
partly because they were not weasels, but martens. I was not a very
clever child.

The truth is, of course, that "sniffing footsteps that had passed a
lifetime" was not a very impressive ability. As my research has
proven, in the late First Age Middle-earth had not a very effective
agriculture. There just were not enough cows per capita to have good
leather boots for anyone. Also, the shoe industry was largely based on
Elven standards and had not yet been adapted to human standards
(humans have much more productive sweat glands). So most humans,
wearing thick low-quality Elven boots, must have had extraordinarily
smelly and sweaty feet. My guess is they left little puddles wherever
they walked. So the only remarkable thing about these weasels is: they
were foul enough that they could actually stand sniffing these
footsteps, without saying hello to their breakfast again.

Noel
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:07 pm
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Noel Q. von Schneiffel wrote:

> On 11 Aug., 22:26, calvin <cri... RemoveThis @windstream.net> wrote:
>> ... ; wolves there were and ravening dogs and great weasels
>> full of the thirst of blood whose nostrils could take scent
>> moons old through running water, or whose eyes find among
>> shingle footsteps that had passed a lifetime since; ...
>>
>> - from The Book of Lost Tales II - The Fall of Gondolin
>
> Thanks a lot, Calvin! This quote brings back happy childhood memories
> of my first years as prophet of Tolkien, when I went to the zoo and
> read this passage to the weasels over and over again, to see how they
> might react. I never got any result, partly because my father always
> dragged me away from the weasel territorium after just four days, and
> partly because they were not weasels, but martens. I was not a very
> clever child.

Martens _are_ weasels, but not necessarily vice versa. However, the
description sounds more like Wargerines.
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derek
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:11 pm
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"Noel Q. von Schneiffel" <noel.von.schneiffel.DeleteThis@fats.teunc.org> wrote in
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> Also, the shoe industry was largely based on
> Elven standards and had not yet been adapted to human standards
> (humans have much more productive sweat glands). So most humans,
> wearing thick low-quality Elven boots, must have had extraordinarily
> smelly and sweaty feet.

Ditto Hobbits... That's why they chose to waer no footwear at all.

-W
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:22 pm
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On 2008-08-11 16:26:58 -0400, calvin <crice5 DeleteThis @windstream.net> said:

> ... ; wolves there were and ravening dogs and great weasels
> full of the thirst of blood whose nostrils could take scent
> moons old through running water, or whose eyes find among
> shingle footsteps that had passed a lifetime since; ...
>
> - from The Book of Lost Tales II - The Fall of Gondolin

More on weasels that might stir up some memories among any Frank Zappa
fans here. This link takes you to one of the great album covers of all
time based upon one of the great album titles of all time. I wonder if
Zappa was a Tolkien fan?

P.S. Check out the Man's Life cover it was based on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasels_Ripped_My_Flesh
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:22 pm
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Tom Hook wrote:
> More on weasels that might stir up some memories among any Frank Zappa
> fans here. This link takes you to one of the great album covers of all
> time based upon one of the great album titles of all time. I wonder if
> Zappa was a Tolkien fan?
>
> P.S. Check out the Man's Life cover it was based on.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasels_Ripped_My_Flesh

Rzzzzz!

That album cover has a prominent place in my office, displayed on my
bookshelf (alas, the record itself is long lost). The artwork is by the late
Neon Park, who did the majority of Little Feat's covers in the 70s.
--
Bill
"Wise fool."
Gandalf _The Two Towers_
(The Wise will remove 'se' to reach me. The Foolish will not!)
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