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I Just Rewatched The LWW Movie DVD: Spoilers - ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( ) _ + | } { P I O P O I U Y T R E W Q At the end of the great battle between Peter's army and the Witch's army, a huge horde of destoned arrive from the Witch's castle and sweep over her army (I liked the giant simply..

Mother! LWW Movie Spoilers - ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( ) _ + | } { P I O P O I U Y T R E W Q When Mr. Beaver bursts back into his home to warn Mrs. Beaver that the White Witch's minions were on their way, he yells to her Mother, they're after Why is he calling his wife..

Very Foolish Lucy: LWW Movie Spoilers - Spoiler Qs q q q q q q q q q q q q q q q q q q q q q q q At the very end, the 4 Pevensie siblings find the magic lamppost. Lucy remembers the term Oom" appears to remember the wardrobe, and rushes pell mell towards it. Why does she do such a..

Imaginary Dialogue: Spoilers For LWW Movie - 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 Edmund: We can't leave the of Narnia to be stoned by the witch! Peter to Edmund: Find the girls, take them home, and bring some guns back to Narnia! Edmund to White Witch as he charges her:..

Imaginary Dialogue: Spoilers For LWW Movie - 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 Edmund: Say, why don't we go see what's between those two hills over there?
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:33 pm
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> Tim Bruening wrote:
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> In short, you're doing silly obsessiveness again.

Surely not.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:22 pm
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Sea Wasp wrote:

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> Dramatic effect.

But shouldn't defeating the White Witch take precidence over dramatic effect?

Speaking of griffins dropping rocks, I noticed that early in the battle, the
witch's army consisted of two groups: One that was engaging Peter's army, and a
reserve group behind the first group, with a large clear space in between.
None of Peter's troops were intermingled with the witch's reserves. I
therefore suggest that Peter or Edmund could have directed the griffins to
reload themselves with rocks and drop them on the witch's reserves to keep them
out of the battle.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 10:26 pm
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A few nights ago, I noticed something interesting about the witch's army:
Except for her polar bear drawn chariot, her army had no cavalry! There were
no one on horseback in the witch's army. On the other hand, Peter's army was
replete with people on horseback and also with centaurs (do centaurs count as
cavalry or infantry?).
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 2:18 pm
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Tim Bruening wrote:
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>>>Why didn't Peter send the rock dropping griffins the moment the witch's
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> But shouldn't defeating the White Witch take precidence over dramatic effect?

Not in a movie. Dramatic effect is the point. We KNOW the White Witch
will be defeated -- at the dramatically appropriate moment. Therefore,
dramatic effect is the criterion.


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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:18 am
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Kudos to Peter for directing griffins to drop stones on the witch's
army! However, IMHO, he should have ordered them to start dropping the
stones the moment he spied the witch's army (so that there would be time
for a second stone dropping run!), instead of waiting for a few minutes
so that his army could yell at her army. Also, he should have had
several griffins concentrate on dropping stones directly ON the witch,
and had the griffins drop rocks on the Witch's reserves (behind the troops
attacking Peter's troops).

Why didn't Peter have Talking Moles dig pits in between the witch's army
and his army?

As for the witch's army, why didn't that Minotaur general order the giants
to throw stones back at Peter's army?

I note that Peter's army looked better organized than the Witch's army, with
higher quality weapons. Also, Peter had lots of calvery. Except for the
chariot pulled by polar bears, the Witch had none.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:21 am
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Bill Woods wrote:

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> > army! However, IMHO, he should have ordered them to start dropping the
> > stones the moment he spied the witch's army (so that there would be time
> > for a second stone dropping run!), instead of waiting for a few minutes
> > so that his army could yell at her army. Also, he should have had
> > several griffins concentrate on dropping stones directly ON the witch!
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> The shock effect of seeing rocks falling from the sky was probably
> greater than the actual casualties, so better to hit them while they're
> still distracted.

But why didn't Peter have several griffins drop rocks specifically in the area
where the White Witch was?

Why signal his troops to yell at her troops before sending in the griffins?
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:23 am
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Avilan wrote:

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> > Kudos to Peter for directing griffins to drop stones on the witch's
> > army! However, IMHO, he should have ordered them to start dropping the
> > stones the moment he spied the witch's army (so that there would be time
> > for a second stone dropping run!), instead of waiting for a few minutes
> > so that his army could yell at her army. Also, he should have had
> > several griffins concentrate on dropping stones directly ON the witch!
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> > Why didn't Peter have Talking Moles dig pits in between the witch's army
> > and his army?
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> > As for the witch's army, why didn't that ox general order the giants to
> > throw stones back at Peter's army? Why weren't the witch's bat friends
> > participating in the battle?
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> More questions (not that I really paid that much attention to the book
> or the movie): Why meeting her troups on the open field at all, Peter's
> army definitely had the terrain advantage in those hills. A few
> oil-fire traps, some pits (as suggested above), and maybe fire bombs
> (molotov cocktail / burning oil jars) dropped on the enemy instead of
> stones...
> The witch would have lost half her army just trying to climb the
> hill...

Peter didn't appear to have had enough time to arrange any oil-fire traps or
fire bombs, and I doubt he would have had the necessary knowledge.
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