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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:10 pm
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| I have difficulty in reading 'Miracles' because English is not my first
language. Would you anyone give me summary or review for this book?
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There's a lot more to it than what Alan said here (and I'm not sure Alan's
is even quite correct).
The early part of the book is very philosophical and difficult. Some of the
chapters around the middle iirc might be easier and more interesting. It
would be the ones that are really about the New Testament miracles.
I'm sorry I don't have the book handy to be more specific.
Bree
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:43 +0100 (BST), alan.DeleteThis@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk
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>In article <dgnngu$dj0$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu>, jskim91.DeleteThis@u.washington.edu
>(jskim91) wrote:
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>> I have difficulty in reading 'Miracles' because English is not my first
>> language. Would you anyone give me summary or review for this book?
>> Thanks,
>> Jaeshin
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>He says at the very end that all prayers are heard, though not all prayers are
>granted. We must not picture destiny as a film unrolling for the most part on
>its own, but in which are prayers are sometimes allowed to insert additional
>items. On the contrary; what the film displays to us as she unrolls already
>contains the results of our prayers and all our other acts.
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>When your prayers have been refused it is for the ultimate good of the universe.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:45 am
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"Bree" <bree RemoveThis @bree.com> wrote in message
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> The early part of the book is very philosophical and difficult.
Chapters I-VIII are worth studying as in these chapters Lewis makes his case
(as he does in many other of his works) against what he calls Naturalism as
a total explanation of the way things work- Naturalism as the "total system"
and everything is contained in "Nature" ; nothing is "Supernatural". Lewis
argument up to this point can be summarized: "She [Nature] is not the whole
of reality, but only a part;..."
This discussion, of course, is basic to understanding Lewis' arguments for
miracles- and the Grand Miracle, the Incarnation.
>Some of the
> chapters around the middle iirc might be easier and more interesting. It
> would be the ones that are really about the New Testament miracles.
As we have seen in this newsgroup, _Miracles_ is unlikely to convince the
hardest bitten Naturalists; the book, however, especially the latter
chapters imo, offer some of the best modern Christian apologetics ever
written.
If you believe the Christian explanation of reality (i.e.. The Good News)
but haven't a clue as to how to express it, or what the
theological/philosophical underpinnings of your belief may be, then here's
the place to explore the theology. Lewis is the master teacher.
If, on the other hand, you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior above
all, then you _need_ nothing more.  This book will be for you a pleasant
read written by a friend, Jack Lewis, of like mind.
BTW, _Miracles_ is published in many languages. Call a good bookstore to
find out which ones.
Blessings,
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I'd like to thank you all for nice suggestions and explanation. It seems to
me that Lewis provided an excellent insight to see the difference between
'natural' and 'supernatural' in this book. But, unfortunately, I can
understand his logic only a part, say 30% just because his English is very
difficult for me.
Again, thank you all and please put more help if you have.
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What languages do you read?
Blessings,
A
"jskim91" <jskim91.DeleteThis@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
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> I'd like to thank you all for nice suggestions and explanation. It seems
> to me that Lewis provided an excellent insight to see the difference
> between 'natural' and 'supernatural' in this book. But, unfortunately, I
> can understand his logic only a part, say 30% just because his English is
> very difficult for me.
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> Again, thank you all and please put more help if you have.
>
> Jaeshin
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My mother language is Korean. We have eight books of CS Lewis in Korean
version, not yet "Miracles".
Thanks, AJA.
Jaeshin
"AJA" <ahnemann.TakeThisOut@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> What languages do you read?
> Blessings,
> A
> "jskim91" <jskim91.TakeThisOut@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
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>> I'd like to thank you all for nice suggestions and explanation. It seems
>> to me that Lewis provided an excellent insight to see the difference
>> between 'natural' and 'supernatural' in this book. But, unfortunately, I
>> can understand his logic only a part, say 30% just because his English is
>> very difficult for me.
>>
>> Again, thank you all and please put more help if you have.
>>
>> Jaeshin
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:44 pm
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In article <dgs8lb$d89$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu>, jskim91 RemoveThis @u.washington.edu
(jskim91) wrote:
> My mother language is Korean. We have eight books of CS Lewis in Korean
> version, not yet "Miracles".
> Thanks, AJA.
> Jaeshin
I have a Chinese friend in London whose wife reads many books. She is from H.K.
and I am going to London on Saturday to demonstrate, and assuming they don't
arrest us all, I could call round to see him, and ask her if she knows if they
print them in Chinese. I do admit that I haven't seen them for some time, and to
be quite honest, the way things are going under this government it would not
surprise me if they had returned to the Far East. I also have another friend in
H.K. who might know such things, but she is not likely to have read any
C.S.Lewis. I'll e-mail her now and ask her, but she is very busy and might not
reply for a couple of weeks.
Is that O.K.?
Regards
Alan
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> "AJA" <ahnemann RemoveThis @optonline.net> wrote in message
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> > What languages do you read?
> > Blessings,
> > A
> > "jskim91" <jskim91 RemoveThis @u.washington.edu> wrote in message
> > news:dgrvfi$6q2$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
> >> I'd like to thank you all for nice suggestions and explanation. It seems
> >> to me that Lewis provided an excellent insight to see the difference
> >> between 'natural' and 'supernatural' in this book. But, unfortunately, I
> >> can understand his logic only a part, say 30% just because his English is
> >> very difficult for me.
> >>
> >> Again, thank you all and please put more help if you have.
> >>
> >> Jaeshin
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Thank you for your consideration, but I speak Korean not Chinese.
You don't need to ask your friend.
Jaeshin
"Alan" <alan DeleteThis @veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
news:memo.20050921204418.820A@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk...
> In article <dgs8lb$d89$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu>,
> jskim91 DeleteThis @u.washington.edu
> (jskim91) wrote:
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>> My mother language is Korean. We have eight books of CS Lewis in Korean
>> version, not yet "Miracles".
>> Thanks, AJA.
>> Jaeshin
>
> I have a Chinese friend in London whose wife reads many books. She is from
> H.K.
> and I am going to London on Saturday to demonstrate, and assuming they
> don't
> arrest us all, I could call round to see him, and ask her if she knows if
> they
> print them in Chinese. I do admit that I haven't seen them for some time,
> and to
> be quite honest, the way things are going under this government it would
> not
> surprise me if they had returned to the Far East. I also have another
> friend in
> H.K. who might know such things, but she is not likely to have read any
> C.S.Lewis. I'll e-mail her now and ask her, but she is very busy and might
> not
> reply for a couple of weeks.
>
> Is that O.K.?
>
> Regards
>
> Alan
>
> www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/index.html
>
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>> "AJA" <ahnemann DeleteThis @optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:eNfYe.9311$H24.4547@fe11.lga...
>> > What languages do you read?
>> > Blessings,
>> > A
>> > "jskim91" <jskim91 DeleteThis @u.washington.edu> wrote in message
>> > news:dgrvfi$6q2$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
>> >> I'd like to thank you all for nice suggestions and explanation. It
>> >> seems
>> >> to me that Lewis provided an excellent insight to see the difference
>> >> between 'natural' and 'supernatural' in this book. But, unfortunately,
>> >> I
>> >> can understand his logic only a part, say 30% just because his English
>> >> is
>> >> very difficult for me.
>> >>
>> >> Again, thank you all and please put more help if you have.
>> >>
>> >> Jaeshin
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:20 pm
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In article <memo.20050921204418.820A.TakeThisOut@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk>,
alan.TakeThisOut@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk (Alan) wrote:
> In article <dgs8lb$d89$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu>, jskim91.TakeThisOut@u.washington.edu
> (jskim91) wrote:
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> > My mother language is Korean. We have eight books of CS Lewis in Korean
> > version, not yet "Miracles".
> > Thanks, AJA.
> > Jaeshin
>
> I have a Chinese friend in London whose wife reads many books. She is from
> H.K. and I am going to London on Saturday to demonstrate, and assuming they
> don't arrest us all, I could call round to see him, and ask her if she knows
> if they print them in Chinese. I do admit that I haven't seen them for some
> time, and to be quite honest, the way things are going under this government
> it would not surprise me if they had returned to the Far East. I also have
> another friend in H.K. who might know such things, but she is not likely to
> have read any C.S.Lewis. I'll e-mail her now and ask her, but she is very
> busy and might not reply for a couple of weeks.
>
> Is that O.K.?
>
Plus I have a friend working at a big book company in Alabama so I asked her as
well. She usually answers very quickly.
Alan
www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/index.html
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> > "AJA" <ahnemann.TakeThisOut@optonline.net> wrote in message
> > news:eNfYe.9311$H24.4547@fe11.lga...
> > > What languages do you read?
> > > Blessings,
> > > A
> > > "jskim91" <jskim91.TakeThisOut@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:dgrvfi$6q2$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
> > >> I'd like to thank you all for nice suggestions and explanation. It seems
> > >> to me that Lewis provided an excellent insight to see the difference
> > >> between 'natural' and 'supernatural' in this book. But, unfortunately, I
> > >> can understand his logic only a part, say 30% just because his English
> > > is >> very difficult for me.
> > >>
> > >> Again, thank you all and please put more help if you have.
> > >>
> > >> Jaeshin
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> >> Stay informed about: Miracles |
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