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JimC

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:08 am
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John Banville is an obvious comparison, but I don't think he'll ever
have influence as wide as Joyce's. What do you think? Who is our
Joyce?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:30 am
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Henry wrote:
> Sorry, but isn't the question nonsensical? I mean, it's like asking 'Who
> is our Shakespeare?'

No, it's rhetorical, meant to spur discussion and beat back the spam.
But to answer literally, it's more valid that your example because
Joyce is so much more recent than Shakespeare.

By the way, in Elizabethan times, Shakespeare was successful but not
yet "Shakespeare." Our Shakespeare is either Arthur Miller, David
Mamet, or even Tony Kushner -- too soon to say. I might throw a vote
to August Wilson too.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:17 am
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Perhaps Thomas Pynchon is the modern James Joyce...?

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> Henry wrote:
>> Sorry, but isn't the question nonsensical? I mean, it's like asking 'Who
>> is our Shakespeare?'
>
> No, it's rhetorical, meant to spur discussion and beat back the spam.
> But to answer literally, it's more valid that your example because
> Joyce is so much more recent than Shakespeare.
>
> By the way, in Elizabethan times, Shakespeare was successful but not
> yet "Shakespeare." Our Shakespeare is either Arthur Miller, David
> Mamet, or even Tony Kushner -- too soon to say. I might throw a vote
> to August Wilson too.
>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:15 am
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On Jun 21, 12:17 am, "David Sweeney" <David.Sween... RemoveThis @btinternet.com>
wrote:
> Perhaps Thomas Pynchon is the modern James Joyce...?

I think Pynchon has one of the best cases, partly because he is
incredibly erudite but also brought his work, particularly Gravitys
Rainbow, down to a very guttural (even scatalogical) level.

But I only know the early stuff; I have Mason & Dixon but haven't read
it yet. And of course Pynchon's paranoia would have been alien to
Joyce, who seemed to have deep faith in humanity.
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